Forett

[Passerboy]

Aiya u ask property agent which area no transformation?

Knn Jurong transformation, Changi transformation, woodlands transformation, GSW transformation, Mandai transformation, tengah transformation, PLAB transformation, yishun transformation

Every bloody place also transformation

Haha!!
Jurong transformation completed. Changi transformation delayed already T5 KIV for at least 2 years. Woodlands transformation delayed already the HSR completion is still in limbo. PLAB transformation after 2030 then say. PLB transformation still waiting. GSW transformation aft 2030-2035 then say, wait for the ports to move out first. Yishun and Mandai got what transformation???

 

[1993newbie]

Thanks for the detailed list on Beauty World Transformation.

Aiyo why never do full homework ah...come I list some for u:

- Integrated Transport Hub
- Mixed Residential/commercial development
- Bukit Timah integrated community facility building
- Elevated SkyPark Green Corridor to Kallang Riverside
- Rail corridor with preservation site at Bukit Timah Fire Station
- Cross-Island II MRT line
- Upcoming rifle range nature reserve
- Revitalised jalan Jurong kechil and Holland plains residential areas
- [upgraded hawker centre?]

 

[Okuhida]

Haha!!
Jurong transformation completed. Changi transformation delayed already T5 KIV for at least 2 years. Woodlands transformation delayed already the HSR completion is still in limbo. PLAB transformation after 2030 then say. PLB transformation still waiting. GSW transformation aft 2030-2035 then say, wait for the ports to move out first. Yishun and Mandai got what transformation???

Haha Jurong transformation resulted in a hugely crowded Jurong East station and the two malls connected to the station are decent. They are going to have an IKEA and two Don Donki. I think that is the regional hub for the west for D21,22 and 23.

 

[bujingyun82]

We all like different areas of Singapore for different reasons. And there are people clearly believe beauty world area whether to live or invest which some of you don’t understand. Going back to the earlier pages, people were commenting forett is going to be a flop etc, expecting sales of 50-70 units etc. And of course the actual sales were 3 times that. At the end of the day, we respect one another’s views, agree to disagree.

 

[xirodspace]

Thanks for the detailed list on Beauty World Transformation.

You’re welcome

 

[NiShiZhu]

We all like different areas of Singapore for different reasons. And there are people clearly believe beauty world area whether to live or invest which some of you don’t understand. Going back to the earlier pages, people were commenting forett is going to be a flop etc, expecting sales of 50-70 units etc. And of course the actual sales were 3 times that. At the end of the day, we respect one another’s views, agree to disagree.

Yes I agree. Can agree to disagree. Else property forum is damn boring w/o friendly debate

 

[xirodspace]

Mentioned this before, real transformation to me includes job creation, business hub, work and recreation.

LOL this guy think he is transforming the whole Singapore economy ah LOL from third world to first ah
People want increased LIVEABILITY and more community / recreation / connectivity and greener living areas etc. This guy here talking as though he laying out the Budget for the country. Might as well ask for an airport to be built there also?

 

[xirodspace]

We all like different areas of Singapore for different reasons. And there are people clearly believe beauty world area whether to live or invest which some of you don’t understand. Going back to the earlier pages, people were commenting forett is going to be a flop etc, expecting sales of 50-70 units etc. And of course the actual sales were 3 times that. At the end of the day, we respect one another’s views, agree to disagree.

Experience buyers know this looks more like upgrading than transformation

Exactly, but there are some self-proclaimed “experienced buyer” who were I remember making bets? But turned out predictions were extremely off. Maybe need to do more homework?

 

[NiShiZhu]

LOL this guy think he is transforming the whole Singapore economy ah LOL from third world to first ah
People want increased LIVEABILITY and more community / recreation / connectivity and greener living areas etc. This guy here talking as though he laying out the Budget for the country. Might as well ask for an airport to be built there also?

We all know u r vested in D21 (Daintree) but it doesn’t mean u can belittle by calling others “this guy” “that guy” in mockery manner when many bro’s here agree D21 is facing oversupply with tons of upcoming condos and at a hefty price tag.
The truth is beauty world transformation is merely upgrading, it is not like JLD, PLB, GSW, Jewel/T5. It’s upgrading is equivalent to replacing an old mall with new mall. This is happening in everywhere including Yishun. So does that make Yishun yo command the same price tag like beauty world?

Everyone here are free to express their views. No need get too emotional even if this is your first property.

 

[NiShiZhu]

Exactly, but there are some self-proclaimed “experienced buyer” who were I remember making bets? But turned out predictions were extremely off. Maybe need to do more homework?

Homework done has proven once again rentability and yield are not doing exceptionally well in D21. Data has been put up in per sq foot. Need more justification further?

 

[xirodspace]

Actually I agree with 1993newbie. Even the long list you typed out doesn’t seems like any sort of transformation if you read into it. More housing developments, hawker centre, community facility etc they are happening in almost all other districts. The rail corridor and nature reserve too span a large area across the country and is barely considered any sort of draw.

The integrated transport hub is nothing more than an additional bus interchange but do people even take buses now with so many train stations coming up? The key draw for the area is the downturn line, which brings people to downtown CBD. But it is quite a distance away so not much difference to say Bukit Panjang station (it should commands a premium over Bukit Panjang as it is 3 stations nearer to town but probably not that much imo).

I concur that the Cross Island line would be the major difference for the area. I just didn’t know that there is a station at Beauty World?

Just one question, do you agree that all these enhancements increase LIVEABILITY which is why you’re purchasing a RESIDENTIAL property in the first place? Else there are so many other commercial / industrial properties which you can look to invest in?

 

[xirodspace]

Homework done has proven once again rentability and yield are not doing exceptionally well in D21. Data has been put up in per sq foot. Need more justification further?

So why were your predictions off by a mile? Maybe need to do homework properly?

 

[NiShiZhu]

Just one question, do you agree that all these enhancements increase LIVEABILITY which is why you’re purchasing a RESIDENTIAL property in the first place? Else there are so many other commercial / industrial properties which you can look to invest in?

Yes all these enhance liveability but not at a price tag of 2kpsf.
Now u answer me, this price tag is so close to kopar D9 and the M at D7 in CCR. Which one makes more finance sense?

 

[NiShiZhu]

So why were your predictions off by a mile? Maybe need to do homework properly?

Not only my prediction. Many bro’s prediction are off. If forett sells well, I’m so delighted that in times to come, those in much better location are likely to see decent cap appreciation if D21 can hit 2xxxpsf. Must really thank forett and Daintree buyers for accepting this price tag

 

[xirodspace]

Yes all these enhance liveability but not at a price tag of 2kpsf.
Now u answer me, this price tag is so close to kopar D9 and the M at D7 in CCR. Which one makes more finance sense?

Not everyone is hard up about the CCR tag like you. People want liveability when purchasing a residential property bro, not just to reside at a crowded noisy despite centrally located area.
What is your ideal price tag then if 1.9k - 2.0k doesn’t make more “finance sense” to u?

 

[Passerboy]

LOL this guy think he is transforming the whole Singapore economy ah LOL from third world to first ah
People want increased LIVEABILITY and more community / recreation / connectivity and greener living areas etc. This guy here talking as though he laying out the Budget for the country. Might as well ask for an airport to be built there also?

Bro we all agree to disagree. Mr Ni had been here long enough and is usually very cordial, I too disagree w him at times and like u I do think that there is some form of tangible benefits that could come out from the plans to upgrade the Beauty world area, and the sales of Forett speaks for itself 212 units sold in two weeks vs Daintree 235 units sold in two years. So chill, jus speak ur mind

 

[NiShiZhu]

Not everyone is hard up about the CCR tag like you. People want liveability when purchasing a residential property bro, not just to reside at a crowded noisy despite centrally located area.
What is your ideal price tag then if 1.9k - 2.0k doesn’t make more “finance sense” to u?

Jadescape in a better location is currently 1.7kpsf
Stirling/PE/Park colonial in much better location launch only at 16xxpsf in the beginning.
U don’t want to talk about CCR we can talk about RCR.
All the above undisputed are in better location than forett and Daintree.

 

[drkcynic]

Homework done has proven once again rentability and yield are not doing exceptionally well in D21. Data has been put up in per sq foot. Need more justification further?

I think alot of people fall into that trap of listening to an agent use an example of a profitable unit in condo xxx, and if they had read of it somewhere (which they will since it should be everywhere on social media), it immediately reinforce that perception that flip properties earn alot and it etches into their minds.

But when you deep dive into the prices and resale volume of that particular condo, one might see a very different picture, where volume and sales are lacklustre and the profitable unit is one of the very rare exception.

Too bad most take things at face value, if they are unlucky they will pay for their mistake.

 

[1993newbie]

Time to look at Verdale, Linq , Ki & integrated project next for D21

 

[NiShiZhu]

I think alot of people fall into that trap of listening to an agent use an example of a profitable unit in condo xxx, and if they had read of it somewhere (which they will since it should be everywhere on social media), it immediately reinforce that perception that flip properties earn alot and it etches into their minds.

But when you deep dive into the prices and resale volume of that particular condo, one might see a very different picture, where volume and sales are lacklustre and the profitable unit is one of the very rare exception.

Too bad most take things at face value, if they are unlucky they will pay for their mistake.

The agents definitely knows buyer’s weakness. That’s why transformation is so conveniently and loosely used nowadays.