[GE2025] PAP Discussion Thread

[Kukukuku]

so unfair loh
every year we kenna perfomance review
but they hold so impt role they only get reviewed once every 5 years

Heard lower staff all under contract with lower $$$$ even u perform well but the boss dont like u also cannot get perm leh

 

[the_dog]

in before "I would be worried if there were no retrenchments"

 

[AndroidComa]

Heard lower staff all under contract with lower $$$$ even u perform well but the boss dont like u also cannot get perm leh

lower means lower educated or what?
actually i heard all new hires are like that now

 

[Kukukuku]

lower means lower educated or what?
actually i heard all new hires are like that now

Lower $$$$$ (salary) because got friend in 1 of the XXXXXX for 7 years n choing all the ways even after work also handled cases... when come to the next appraisal he thot can get perm but end up give some reason n never get it.... run road n go other place get higher position high salary n perm job

 

[dredd]

I would like the Mayors to tio pok first. Then also remove PA

I agree with this


the mayors are pointless


Read HWZ Forum Rules!

 

[Donkey Kong]

TS jin daring.. TS is balls of steel..

 

[focus1974]

leadership renewal is very important for Singapore.

I want to see more 4G and especially 5G leaders taking over the Ministerial roles after this GE.

So yes.. i think we need to help.
Our future is at stake.

Those past 60years old should auto retire.
you all dont have the energy level and mental capacity to perform at peak compared to your younger colleagues.

If you have singapore best interest at heart, you will do it.
you can always be mentor to them ... offline.. or just take nominal pay and act as internal Consultant to the new Minister.

 

[ineser]

Steel hab mandate, just that how high is the %

 

[parchiao]

leadership renewal is very important for Singapore.

I want to see more 4G and especially 5G leaders taking over the Ministerial roles after this GE.

So yes.. i think we need to help.
Our future is at stake.

Those past 60years old should auto retire.
you all dont have the energy level and mental capacity to perform at peak compared to your younger colleagues.

If you have singapore best interest at heart, you will do it.
you can always be mentor to them ... offline.. or just take nominal pay and act as internal Consultant to the new Minister.

Agree.

If the people at the top are not making improvements

just give the others a chance.

Opposition will work harder than PAP to serve the residents

PAP shadow MP will be there to oversee PA

New PAP ministers with fresh ideas will be minted

A big win for all Sinkies.

 

[focus1974]

Agree.

If the people at the top are not making improvements

just give the others a chance.

Opposition will work harder than PAP to serve the residents

PAP shadow MP will be there to oversee PA

New PAP ministers with fresh ideas will be minted

A big win for all Sinkies.

I mean I want to see more 4G and 5G PAP candidates take up the Minister roles.
the 3G leaders can all retired actually. too old liao

 

[jinsadndepress]

so unfair loh
every year we kenna perfomance review
but they hold so impt role they only get reviewed once every 5 years

Still can bribe reviewer with voucher

Best thing ish reviewers all daft receive voucher give 10 / 10 appraisal

 

[coolmyth]

Warning if Pappies get what they want, something something 3.0 will come very soon!

 

[electronics]

Hope to see Canto TSL retrenched. too.

Let him use his Skillsfuture credits.

 

[dambio]

I think we average around 3 - 5 ministers per ministry right?

40% of parliament MPs are ministers (or similar positions).

Sun Xueling is at MHA (4 ministers), and MSF (3 ministers, 1 SPS).
Janil P is at MDDI (4 ministers) and MOH (4 ministers).
GKY is DPM (1 other DPM), and at MTI (5 ministers).

Maybe they should reform it and then either 1 minister, drawing 1 salary, running 1 ministry. OR, hire as many person as you want and call them all ministers but they all split that same 1 salary per ministry.

No point of the 2011 white paper (with all the ministerials salaries' review by Gerald Ee, etc.) If they can just keep inflating headcount and add onto the expenditure.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...-was-due-in-2023-deferred-says-chan-chun-sing

The one in 2023 got deferred.

Anyway the rank-and-files working at Civil Service earn so little and OT alot due to the red-tape/bureaucracy, etc. while the top management get paid so much.

No wonder you see so many people working in the civil service quitting.

Hear that even in the SAF a lot of regulars are quitting in past 5 years due to lack of pay increases.

Then the remaining work get shared amongst those remaining which again lead to more regulars quitting.
The lack of NS-eligible males due to our dwindling population pays a big part too.

This vicious cycle continues, whilst those generals continue to draw high salaries while waiting for the chances to parachute as a PAP MP or inside a GLC.

They created senior minister, 2nd minister n then a whole bunch of ministers of state.

Dunno for wat. N they all cost us. Not withstanding all d other posts they hold outside of gov posts.

 

[Apparatus]

Too many jiak liao bees.

Remove some Ministers, remove mayor's and some MPs

People must work harder to justify their salaries

 

[parchiao]

Warning if Pappies get what they want, something something 3.0 will come very soon!

I will start a Do Not Hire thread for that one.

 

[Shutterbox]

Eh this thread bo lang up liao ah

 

[onlycleanerinvest]

u agree? some pap leader or old guards actua;lly quite good, but some rly cmi

 

[buttbERry]

for ts who are the good ones and who are the rly cmi ones?

 

[iceblendedchoc]

u agree? some pap leader or old guards actua;lly quite good, but some rly cmi

i think 4 out of the rest are quite good ,the rest cmi, sleeper, yes men, monitor lizards