[GE2025] The Workers' Party (WP) Discussion Thread

[tokong]

I mean Pritam let Faisal and team run themselves, without intervening is commendable. The gerrymandering on Tampines at the last minute just did not give WP Tampines enough time to run the ground but still getting so close was another feature.

It just sad that voters don't realised the important of voting them now or never. Considering PAP won Tampines so close, it likely it be redrawn again by their Picasso. tides will turn unfavorable for WP then again as akin to 2025 election. Like what WP say during one of their rally, voters might not have a chance to vote for them next election given the potential redrawn.

The redrawing of boundaries is a double edge sword. Opposition can take advantage of this uncertainty.

Uncertainty means your team covers all the grcs groundwork on the east side. Get more people and work ALL the grounds.

 

[Xeservico]

They could get gd candidates this GE because people saw hope when wp won SK grc during last GE. That win gave wp momentum and people hope.

This GE pap successfully broke wp’s momentum.
how many wp members will still be around in 5 years time?

This doesn't make any sense. Jamus and Nicole literally joined WP after the disastrous 2015 election. What makes 2025 so special?

 

[jeffprobst]

The redrawing of boundaries is a double edge sword. Opposition can take advantage of this uncertainty.

Uncertainty means your team covers all the grcs groundwork on the east side. Get more people and work ALL the grounds.

I think let's step back. It’s genuinely tough for the opposition. Just look at PSP, they’ve been working the ground in West Coast for years, and then suddenly Jurong gets merged in? There’s no real community link between the two. I don't think anyone will expect Jurong to be merge into West Coast so suddenly. The redrawn is clearly mean to benefit certain specific party.

And while some say WP should cover more ground, let’s be realistic. With limited resources (not only in WP front but all opposition) and no support from the PA machinery, how far can they stretch? They’re not the incumbent with deep pockets and institutional support.

 

[zwHrebmeM]

actually how they count the mandate ? if it's a walk over.. they will not be part of the mandate ?

Just say that IF this election all walkover no other opposition party contested. the place where wp didn't contest, it's pap walk over. only wp vs pap.. then is it the PAP mandate is only 49+%. if so i think mosquito team might as well disolve only giving PAP good mandate

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSh6SdTAc/

YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!

In GE1991, when Oppo adopted a "by-election effect", only 25 contested constituencies (or 40 seats), were contested, resulting in PAP returning to power on nomination day for the second time since 1968.

And guess what! PAP's mandate is only 60.67!

 

[jeffprobst]

They could get gd candidates this GE because people saw hope when wp won SK grc during last GE. That win gave wp momentum and people hope.

This GE pap successfully broke wp’s momentum.
how many wp members will still be around in 5 years time?

Giving the benefit of doubt, many who joined WP likely did so because the party aligns with their values and they see its long-term potential. The success in turning Sengkang GRC blue may have helped attract interest, but I doubt that was the main reason.

In contrast, those who lean toward the incumbent may do so for a smoother path, joining a well-resourced party where less groundwork is needed. It’s telling who chooses to walk the hard path versus who waits for walkabouts.

 

[vee4044]

Unless Andre himself dun want, else wp should give him the ncmp seat. After all he fought in smc solo and nearly won

If Andre do not accept the NCMP Seat.... Show that not gentleman for his lost and not ready to serve

Kayu Citizen.... Also show that Kia Su and Petty.....

 

[Heriophant]

I think let's step back. It’s genuinely tough for the opposition. Just look at PSP, they’ve been working the ground in West Coast for years, and then suddenly Jurong gets merged in? There’s no real community link between the two. I don't think anyone will expect Jurong to be merge into West Coast so suddenly. The redrawn is clearly mean to benefit certain specific party.

And while some say WP should cover more ground, let’s be realistic. With limited resources (not only in WP front but all opposition) and no support from the PA machinery, how far can they stretch? They’re not the incumbent with deep pockets and institutional support.

During the campaigning period, limbeh was asking myself... how come PAP no sound from west side.. CCK and WC safe meh

Everyday attack WP in TP and PG...

In the end we saw CLEAN SWEEP in west...

PAPies knew all along clean sweep in West side... Qn is how

 

[Tenpai]

They could get gd candidates this GE because people saw hope when wp won SK grc during last GE. That win gave wp momentum and people hope.

This GE pap successfully broke wp’s momentum.
how many wp members will still be around in 5 years time?

I don't think PAP broke WP's momentum, but rather the echo chamber here and reddit gave the illusion that WP would do a clean sweep. If anything, I congratulate WP for doing quite well despite the swing towards PAP. Their win percentage in Seng Kang has increased and Aljunied and Hougang were won comfortably.

And for Andre, he is a newbie so it was pure hopium to think he could win NCM who has been a Minister with the PAP brand. But he gave NCM such a close fight that I think NCM probably has PTSD from this than his loss in GE 2020. Andre has surpassed expectations in a good way.

 

[BohemianSG]

Really huh, so you mean those living in Waterview and The Tropica did not vote in 2020, or these 2 condo only got people move in after 2020? In case you don’t know, Waterview TOP in 2014 and Tropica TOP in 2000

You ok or not? Some clown say the area cut off was an aljunied stronghold but i say the bulk of it was empty land and now new BTO with new residents.. how to be Stronghold when the bulk are the new BTOs.

Then another fellow drag out news article Tampines GreenGem area that are new BTOs. So i reply about the new BTOs.

Now you talk about tampines Ave1. These are the new BTOs ah?

 

[jeffprobst]

I don't think PAP broke WP's momentum, but rather the echo chamber here and reddit gave the illusion that WP would do a clean sweep. If anything, I congratulate WP for doing quite well despite the swing towards PAP. Their win percentage in Seng Kang has increased and Aljunied and Hougang were won comfortably.

And for Andre, he is a newbie so it was pure hopium to think he could win NCM who has been a Minister with the PAP brand. But he gave NCM such a close fight that I think NCM probably has PTSD from this than his loss in GE 2020. Andre has surpassed expectations in a good way.

Andre is like the MVP for WP for 2025 election. Really superb close fight with a minister that incumbent try so hard to get him reappointed.

 

[cwayne]

Probably its just me, but i find that the slim margin result in Tampines and Punggol is quite encouraging and instead of breaking WP momentum, i thought it would be a plus that all these new faces and team that WP had put up gave a very good fight. Even me myself would consider volunteering if i am staying near their ward

 

[Tenpai]

Andre is like the MVP for WP for 2025 election. Really superb close fight with a minister that incumbent try so hard to get him reappointed.

Yeah I 100% agree. He did very well. He should be very proud of himself. And Jalan Kayu was part of SM Lee's ward, so I think even SM Lee is a bit nervous now

 

[Eureka75]

Yeah I 100% agree. He did very well. He should be very proud of himself. And Jalan Kayu was part of SM Lee's ward, so I think even SM Lee is a bit nervous now

Jalan Kayu from estimated 70% for PAP under mosquito Party to 51.5% under WP is a strong swing

 

[Tenpai]

Jalan Kayu from estimated 70% for PAP under mosquito Party to 51.5% under WP is a strong swing

It is. Andre has punched above his weight.

Problem is that the echo chamber here gave the impression that he will win. But when you think objectively as a neutral outsider, many voters will always default vote the PAP, even more so a PAP candidate who was Minister. Andre is young and lack political experience so many oldies will tend not to vote for him. Him getting 48% is already excellent

 

[Miracleincellno7__sk]

Kenneth Foo contested for East Coast GRC back in 2020, when he contested in l Tampines-Changkat SMC, it was already a slim chance for him not to mention SMCs are generally harder for opposition candidates and not forgetting that Desmond Choo(Mayor Choo) did alot for the residents there. All in all, they should have placed Kenneth at a better location. The election results day was a really sad day. Kenneth is straight-forward, no-nonsense type of guy that Workers Party really needed. I just wanted to share my opinions here.

In case anyone is unfamiliar, he is currently a Deputy Director of the Singapore Cancer Society.

 

[Ottoke]

Kenneth Foo contested for East Coast GRC back in 2020, when he contested in l Tampines-Changkat SMC, it was already a slim chance for him not to mention SMCs are generally harder for opposition candidates and not forgetting that Desmond Choo(Mayor Choo) did alot for the residents there. All in all, they should have placed Kenneth at a better location. The election results day was a really sad day. Kenneth is straight-forward, no-nonsense type of guy that Workers Party really needed. I just wanted to share my opinions here.

In case anyone is unfamiliar, he is currently a Deputy Director of the Singapore Cancer Society.

Let's hope he walk the ground more

 

[ichinisan]

But this will be the last that we will see Jalan Kayu SMC. 100% sure of that. Leopards do not change their spots. Save this post and take it out again when the next EBRC report is out.


We all know what will happen in 5 years time...

 

[sickoflife]

I don't think PAP broke WP's momentum, but rather the echo chamber here and reddit gave the illusion that WP would do a clean sweep. If anything, I congratulate WP for doing quite well despite the swing towards PAP. Their win percentage in Seng Kang has increased and Aljunied and Hougang were won comfortably.

And for Andre, he is a newbie so it was pure hopium to think he could win NCM who has been a Minister with the PAP brand. But he gave NCM such a close fight that I think NCM probably has PTSD from this than his loss in GE 2020. Andre has surpassed expectations in a good way.

Probably its just me, but i find that the slim margin result in Tampines and Punggol is quite encouraging and instead of breaking WP momentum, i thought it would be a plus that all these new faces and team that WP had put up gave a very good fight. Even me myself would consider volunteering if i am staying near their ward

WP momentum definitely broke. A lot of the high caliber folks joined after seeing Jamus win in his first try.

now that Harpreet, Ong lue Ping lost, why would highly qualified candidates want to risk their career and livelihood?
I’m not saying WP will run out of candidates because there’s no shortage of ppl with nothing to lose.

but the candidates you need in oppo are those with something to lose. These ppl are very smart and analytical and will not risk it unless the expected value is high.

in my view, this election is an even bigger blow compared to 2015

 

[jeffprobst]

Yeah I 100% agree. He did very well. He should be very proud of himself. And Jalan Kayu was part of SM Lee's ward, so I think even SM Lee is a bit nervous now

yeah. not forgetting, he got the result despite some character assassination happening at the same time.

 

[jeffprobst]

But this will be the last that we will see Jalan Kayu SMC. 100% sure of that. Leopards do not change their spots. Save this post and take it out again when the next EBRC report is out.


We all know what will happen in 5 years time...

i think not only Jalan Kayu, those that incumbent won by slight margin are likely to disappear or redrawn. voters missed the chance to vote them few days ago. next election, everything start afresh for all oppositions, not only WP.

Just look at PSP, they did well in 2020, but due to gerrymengering, the GRC they contesting practically is a fresh GRC they contesting.