General S-REITs Discussion Thread

Alwaysb

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Hi, newbie here. Do you mind to explain what you mean please?

I was reading the last 100 post. Quite lost about of terms used by the posters here.

Very technical to me. Hahah

Who here use leverage to buy reits?
For example 5 times like property investment does.
 

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For eg, u have $10,000

u open a margin account and deposit in $10,000

this margin account allows you x3 of your deposit amount ($30,000)

so now.. instead of u using $10,000 to earn 5% div yield which is $500 /year, now you have x3 ($30,000) to earn 5% yield which is $1500/year

but then.. u need to pay interest daily (6% or more p.a) until you clear your margin loan.
 

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Hi, newbie here. Do you mind to explain what you mean please?

I was reading the last 100 post. Quite lost about of terms used by the posters here.

Very technical to me. Hahah

U mean what is 'Leverage'?

Watch this.....:D

 

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Thanks for the info. Please don't vomit blood ya. What is margin account? Where to open margin account?

Why would one borrow at 6% pa and invest in a 5% yield lei? Hoping for capital gain?



For eg, u have $10,000

u open a margin account and deposit in $10,000

this margin account allows you x3 of your deposit amount ($30,000)

so now.. instead of u using $10,000 to earn 5% div yield which is $500 /year, now you have x3 ($30,000) to earn 5% yield which is $1500/year

but then.. u need to pay interest daily (6% or more p.a) until you clear your margin loan.
 

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Thabks for the video. I know leverage = borrow

Was just wondering the earlier comment on 5 times like property actually meant.

Which bank will lend so much without any tangible assets as a form of collateral like property



U mean what is 'Leverage'?

Watch this.....:D

 

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'Decent start' for S-REITs as cash conservation remains key; investors to stay selective: analysts

'Decent start' for S-REITs as cash conservation remains key; investors to stay selective: analysts

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/ca...ervation-remains-key-investors-stay-selective

SINGAPORE (May 20): As the Covid-19 pandemic lingers, latest results from Singapore REITs (S-REITs) have revealed that capital retention remains a top priority as they brace for weaker fundamentals.

Lauded by investors for stability and returns, S-REITs are now set to face uncertain macroeconomic conditions that could pose near-term challenges.

For 1Q2020 ended March, Maybank Kim Eng Research analyst Chua Su Tye says that S-REITs had a ‘decent start’ despite conserving copious amounts of cash in light of the macroeconomic uncertainty.

In particular, Chua notes that stable occupancies and positive rental reversions were bright spots for the general sector, although shopper traffic and tenant sales slowed following enhanced safe distancing measures.

In 2Q2020 ending June, Chua is expecting the full impact of the ‘circuit breaker’ measures to cause sharp falls in the revenue and net property income (NPI) figures of S-REITS. And as always, some segments are likely to be impacted more than others.

“Retail is likely to be the worst hit, as hospitality receives minimum fixed rents from their master leases. Lease structures could see higher gross turnover (GTO) contributions following Covid-19,” says Chua.

“Overseas assets should back DPUs for industrial, while Singapore rents are now likely to bottom out in 2021, and tenancy risk while low, could rise,” he adds.

On the flipside, he shares that office REITs have low expiring leases in 2020 in the range of 5%-9%, which in turn positions them to deliver positive returns. In particular, US-focused office REITs boast even lower lease expiries of 4%-6%, and higher dividend yields of more than 9%.

The way Phillip Capital analyst Natalie Ong sees it, the immediate impact on FY2020 earnings for S-REITs will be based on the rental rebates and higher vacancy rates.

“Rental rebates offered will lower FY2020 revenues and DPUs for the REITs. Among the subsectors, retail REITs have given the most rental relief to their tenants (2 to 3 months) as only 20% to 25% of their tenants were operating during the circuit breaker,” says Ong.

“While the commercial and industrial sectors’ tenants have a moderate to low dependency on their premise, REITs are prepared to/have offered targeted relief to tenants who are more in need of help, such as the retail and small medium enterprises (SMEs) with their portfolios.” adds Ong.

“As such we expect the rental relief given to commercial and industrial tenants to have minimal impact to distributable income.”

According to analysts, the retail sector is likely to bear the brunt of the virus.

“The Covid-19 situation has highlighted the vulnerable positions retail tenants are in, with their thin margins, as well as the market’s expectation for landlords to have “more skin in the game,” shares Ong.

Maybank’s Chua says that although cap rates remained unchanged in 1Q2020, visibility for retail REITs remains low as the easing of travel restrictions remains uncertain.

“Valuers could reassess assumptions after a prolonged Covid-19 vacancy and rental impact, and as asset availability rises with sellers facing redemption pressure or liquidity needs,” says Chua.

Conversely, Chua says better visibility is evident for industrial and office REITs.

For industrial REITs, Chua expects most leasing activity to be centred on renewals, given the weak business confidence, which should help support tenant retention efforts and occupancies, especially for business parks. Chua is also expecting rents to recover from 1H2021, at the earliest.

Chua notes that office REITs had booked healthy occupancies and positive double-digit rental reversions in 1Q2020, with buoyant leasing activity and low expiries expected for the year.

“We do not expect the office landlords to provide substantial rental relief or rent deferments to their tenants except for co-working operators, which contribute 2-4% of net leasable area (NLA),” says Chua.

“Rental reversions are expected to stay positive into 2020 given the low expiring rents in FY2020-22,” he adds.

Phillip’s Ong, however, remains divided on the office sector. She says it is still early days to predict how future demand for office space will look like as counteracting leasing strategies are rolled out.

On one hand, the successful implementation of telecommuting is likely to have a long-term impact on occupier strategy and poses risks to office demand,” says Ong.

“On the other hand, we may see companies choosing to reduce over-concentration risk by adopting lower desk-density and splitting of offices, hence increasing the demand for space,” she adds.

However, both brokerages say S-REITs still present attractive upside from their current prices, and are choosing to remain optimistic. Phillip is reiterating its “overweight” stance on S-REITs, while Maybank is keeping its “positive” call on the sector.
 

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So happy 😊
I pick up a few riets and hospitality trust along the month all in gain now. Put in 70k+ paper gain about 2k. But intend to keep some of them for dividends. Which gives as high as 9% during normal economy. I know of the risk la. Went in with eye open.

With market interest rates like this. Got to take a plunge to take some risk
From april to now la. Just trying to tell Yong in this climate no choice but got to take a bit of risk. Imagine I've been keeping my savings in FD and hopping bank to bank in past 10 years. Really buay tahan the interest environment now.
3% gain in 2 mths is much much better than the saving acct int. U r so pro in reits picking. :D
 
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SG REITs hv been doing well the last couple of weeks. I think it will continue.

I think for those who have bought this period would have gained as it's all in green now. It's market timing after a major correction. Just pray the 2nd correction many is talking about wont come though
 

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Have to pan out and see whether community infection in Phase 1 and 2 increases, if it does and authorities clamp down and enforce restrictions again, prices might drop.

Anyway, for most retail REITs, the brunt of the reduced rentals will be evident in 2Q2020, which distributions will be paid out in August. I suspect the drop in prices has priced the anticipation of reduced distributions.

Should this happen, I will scoop more REITs.
 

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I scoop some CDL yesterday also. Hope the rise sustain. CDL dividend has been impressive. But like what all are aware. The risk forward is there. Buy at own risk.

Btw CDL is under hospitality. Not reits
 

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But not everyone earns money on reits. Which 1 u bought or recommend?

I bought starhill global and Mapletree NAC. I may or may not keep them for dividend as due to current situation I'm not sure if they are worth keeping for dividends. Probably I'll look at capital gain. Will see how it goes

By the way, I'm not expert here. U should b the one to give me tips instead since your major portion are in reits
 

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I scoop some CDL yesterday also. Hope the rise sustain. CDL dividend has been impressive. But like what all are aware. The risk forward is there. Buy at own risk.

Btw CDL is under hospitality. Not reits

Cdl not hospitality reit meh?

CDL Hospitality Trusts ("CDLHT") is one of Asia's leading hospitality trusts with assets valued at S$2.85 billion. It comprises CDL Hospitality Real Estate Investment Trust ("H-REIT"), a real estate investment trust, and CDL Hospitality Business Trust ("HBT"), a business trust. CDLHT was listed on the Mainboard of the Singapore Exchange Securities Trading Limited on 19 July 2006, with H-REIT being the first hotel real estate investment trust in Asia (ex Japan).
 
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Cdl not hospitality reit meh?

I don't know la. That's why I'm not the expert to ask. Lol

I don't buy according to particular sector. I usually look at dividends payout past record and see how far the price has corrected and take my risk from there
 
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