GOUT: Nuts?

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Where are your most common gout flare areas?

Mine would be ankles, toes and even fingers. And the small round ball (near the ankle).......don't know what it is called la. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
 

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I have looked at online sources and it was mentioned that nuts are actually good for gout as they are relatively low in purine and some may help with inflammation. However, my friends (including myself) have tried eating nuts and sometimes we ended up having gout flares. I have doubts whether the nuts triggered our gout flares. Some suggest that nuts are beneficial for gout while some insist that nuts trigger gout flare.

Anyone with gout here can share your experiences? Thank you!

I thought eat too much nuts ..that's why got gout?
 

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Ya true. The type of food that one consumes definitely affects how often gout flares are caused.
The start of the disease is at least 10 years or more before it happen. It's just a warning for other things

- are you overweight? Beer belly fat.
- you have HPB and high cholesterol (the bad ones)
- what was your diet like ?
- do you exercise ? Smoke? Drink?
- your food are heavily processed?

Anyone with gout has high chance of HPB correlation.

Uric acid is created when purine breaks down.
- is your body producing too much Uric Acid and thus break down to Uric Acid
- can you kidney remove Uric acid properly or it's because you produce too much.
- Even if your "trigger" food. You will still have the issue because the root cause is not removed.

 

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I thought eat too much nuts ..that's why got gout?
Don't know leh. Saw so many websites, including from doctors themselves saying that nuts are generally fine for gout as they are low in purine and some may even helped with inflammation! Can't find one single article that gout flare can be specifically be triggered by nuts leh.
 

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The start of the disease is at least 10 years or more before it happen. It's just a warning for other things

- are you overweight? Beer belly fat.
- you have HPB and high cholesterol (the bad ones)
- what was your diet like ?
- do you exercise ? Smoke? Drink?
- your food are heavily processed?

Anyone with gout has high chance of HPB correlation.

Uric acid is created when purine breaks down.
- is your body producing too much Uric Acid and thus break down to Uric Acid
- can you kidney remove Uric acid properly or it's because you produce too much.
- Even if your "trigger" food. You will still have the issue because the root cause is not removed.


Thank you, man! Thankfully, I don't drink or smoke. But do have cravings for seafood (esp shellfish) and certain red meats like duck, pork. I don't eat beef and eat minimally mutton. Ya lor, have HPB and high cholesterol (slightly above average). Sibei sian. I ah pek already. But no excuses la.
 

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I have looked at online sources and it was mentioned that nuts are actually good for gout as they are relatively low in purine and some may help with inflammation. However, my friends (including myself) have tried eating nuts and sometimes we ended up having gout flares. I have doubts whether the nuts triggered our gout flares. Some suggest that nuts are beneficial for gout while some insist that nuts trigger gout flare.

Anyone with gout here can share your experiences? Thank you!
Hello Firestorm1978,

It's understandable to be confused about whether nuts are good or bad for your gout. You've come across conflicting information, and your own experiences seem to contradict what many online sources say. Here’s a breakdown of the current understanding of nuts and gout, which should help clarify the situation.

The General Consensus: Nuts are Gout-Friendly​

Most health sources and studies indicate that nuts are generally a good choice for people with gout. Here's why:

  • Low in Purines: Gout is caused by a buildup of uric acid, which is produced when the body breaks down purines. Foods are often categorized by their purine content. Most nuts and seeds are considered low-purine foods, containing less than 50mg of purines per 100g.1 For comparison, high-purine foods like red meat and certain seafood can have well over 150mg of purines per 100g.2
  • Specific Examples:
    • Almonds: These are low in purines and contain magnesium and vitamin E, which may help lower uric acid and reduce inflammation.34
    • Walnuts: Rich in anti-inflammatory omega-3 fatty acids, walnuts are also a low-purine option.34
    • Cashews: These are low in purines and can be a good source of plant-based protein in a gout diet.25
  • Plant-Based Benefits: Diets that emphasize plant-based foods are generally associated with a lower risk of gout.67 Nuts fit perfectly into this dietary pattern.89

So, Why Might Nuts Trigger Gout Flares?​

This is the crucial part of your question. Despite the general consensus, your experience and that of your friends are valid. Here are several reasons why you might be experiencing gout flares after eating nuts:

  • Individual Triggers are Key: This is perhaps the most important point, as mentioned by forum user dpblsea99. Gout triggers can be highly individual.1011 While nuts are low in purines for most, your body might react differently. Keeping a detailed food and symptom diary can help you pinpoint your specific triggers.
  • The Peanut Debate: As some forum members like cosmothecat and dambio pointed out, peanuts are often singled out. While technically legumes, they are often consumed as nuts. Some sources state they are low-to-moderate in purines and can be part of a gout-friendly diet in moderation.12 However, other sources and many personal anecdotes suggest a link between peanuts and gout attacks. This could be due to their specific purine content or other compounds.
  • Moderation is Crucial: As user TLCTLC88 practices, portion control is vital. Nuts are calorie-dense, and excessive consumption can lead to weight gain, which is a significant risk factor for gout.13 A recommended serving is often just a small handful (about 15-20 nuts).
  • Added Ingredients: The way nuts are prepared matters. As TLCTLC88 and Firestorm1978 discussed, many packaged nuts are roasted in oil and heavily salted. Some even have sugary coatings or flavorings with high-fructose corn syrup, which can independently raise uric acid levels.10 Naturally baked or raw, unsalted nuts are a better choice.
  • Overall Diet: A gout flare is rarely caused by a single food in isolation. It's often the combination of different foods and drinks over a few days. For example, having nuts on the same day as seafood or beer (a classic trigger mentioned by Revuelto) could push your uric acid levels over the edge.

Practical Advice for You​

  1. Identify Your Personal Triggers: As suggested, keep a detailed diary of your food intake, medication, stress levels, and any gout symptoms. This is the most reliable way to figure out if a specific type of nut is a problem for you.
  2. Test Different Nuts: Don't lump all nuts together. If you suspect nuts are an issue, try eliminating them all for a period and then reintroducing one type at a time (e.g., only almonds for a week) in moderation to see how you react. You might find that you tolerate almonds or walnuts but not peanuts.
  3. Focus on Moderation and Preparation: Stick to a small, measured handful of raw or naturally baked, unsalted nuts. Avoid the flavored, salted, and sugary varieties.
  4. Stay Hydrated: As RSKeisuke and mocax advised, drinking plenty of water is crucial for flushing uric acid from your system.14
  5. Listen to Your Doctor: It's great that you are on Allopurinol, as prescribed by your doctor. This medication is a cornerstone of long-term gout management. Continue to follow your doctor's advice and discuss any concerns about your diet and potential triggers with them or a registered dietitian.15
In conclusion, while the science says most nuts should be safe and even beneficial for gout, the anecdotal evidence from you and others in the forum highlights that individual reactions are very real. The best approach is to be your own health detective, use the general advice as a guideline, and carefully figure out what works for your body.
 

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Thank you, man! Thankfully, I don't drink or smoke. But do have cravings for seafood (esp shellfish) and certain red meats like duck, pork. I don't eat beef and eat minimally mutton. Ya lor, have HPB and high cholesterol (slightly above average). Sibei sian. I ah pek already. But no excuses la.
Meat and seafood are not the issue. It's carbs and sugar. I will get flammed here. But do your own research.

People (and doc ) blame the immediate culprit - yes. These has high purines. But why do you have this issue now and not 20 years ago? Think about it.

An impaired body has no protection. So cutting bad on the "immediate" attack seems like that's the root cause but it's a lot more deeper.
 

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Meat and seafood are not the issue. It's carbs and sugar. I will get flammed here. But do your own research.

People (and doc ) blame the immediate culprit - yes. These has high purines. But why do you have this issue now and not 20 years ago? Think about it.

An impaired body has no protection. So cutting bad on the "immediate" attack seems like that's the root cause but it's a lot more deeper.
I concur carbs and sugar too. IMMEDIATE within hours after drinking coke / soft drinks (probably due to high Sucrose). Carbs sometimes yes, sometimes not so immediate.
 

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Hello Firestorm1978,

It's understandable to be confused about whether nuts are good or bad for your gout. You've come across conflicting information, and your own experiences seem to contradict what many online sources say. Here’s a breakdown of the current understanding of nuts and gout, which should help clarify the situation.

The General Consensus: Nuts are Gout-Friendly​

Most health sources and studies indicate that nuts are generally a good choice for people with gout. Here's why:

  • Low in Purines: Gout is caused by a buildup of uric acid, which is produced when the body breaks down purines. Foods are often categorized by their purine content. Most nuts and seeds are considered low-purine foods, containing less than 50mg of purines per 100g.1 For comparison, high-purine foods like red meat and certain seafood can have well over 150mg of purines per 100g.2
  • Specific Examples:
    • Almonds: These are low in purines and contain magnesium and vitamin E, which may help lower uric acid and reduce inflammation.34
    • Walnuts: Rich in anti-inflammatory omega-3 fatty acids, walnuts are also a low-purine option.34
    • Cashews: These are low in purines and can be a good source of plant-based protein in a gout diet.25
  • Plant-Based Benefits: Diets that emphasize plant-based foods are generally associated with a lower risk of gout.67 Nuts fit perfectly into this dietary pattern.89

So, Why Might Nuts Trigger Gout Flares?​

This is the crucial part of your question. Despite the general consensus, your experience and that of your friends are valid. Here are several reasons why you might be experiencing gout flares after eating nuts:

  • Individual Triggers are Key: This is perhaps the most important point, as mentioned by forum user dpblsea99. Gout triggers can be highly individual.1011 While nuts are low in purines for most, your body might react differently. Keeping a detailed food and symptom diary can help you pinpoint your specific triggers.
  • The Peanut Debate: As some forum members like cosmothecat and dambio pointed out, peanuts are often singled out. While technically legumes, they are often consumed as nuts. Some sources state they are low-to-moderate in purines and can be part of a gout-friendly diet in moderation.12 However, other sources and many personal anecdotes suggest a link between peanuts and gout attacks. This could be due to their specific purine content or other compounds.
  • Moderation is Crucial: As user TLCTLC88 practices, portion control is vital. Nuts are calorie-dense, and excessive consumption can lead to weight gain, which is a significant risk factor for gout.13 A recommended serving is often just a small handful (about 15-20 nuts).
  • Added Ingredients: The way nuts are prepared matters. As TLCTLC88 and Firestorm1978 discussed, many packaged nuts are roasted in oil and heavily salted. Some even have sugary coatings or flavorings with high-fructose corn syrup, which can independently raise uric acid levels.10 Naturally baked or raw, unsalted nuts are a better choice.
  • Overall Diet: A gout flare is rarely caused by a single food in isolation. It's often the combination of different foods and drinks over a few days. For example, having nuts on the same day as seafood or beer (a classic trigger mentioned by Revuelto) could push your uric acid levels over the edge.

Practical Advice for You​

  1. Identify Your Personal Triggers: As suggested, keep a detailed diary of your food intake, medication, stress levels, and any gout symptoms. This is the most reliable way to figure out if a specific type of nut is a problem for you.
  2. Test Different Nuts: Don't lump all nuts together. If you suspect nuts are an issue, try eliminating them all for a period and then reintroducing one type at a time (e.g., only almonds for a week) in moderation to see how you react. You might find that you tolerate almonds or walnuts but not peanuts.
  3. Focus on Moderation and Preparation: Stick to a small, measured handful of raw or naturally baked, unsalted nuts. Avoid the flavored, salted, and sugary varieties.
  4. Stay Hydrated: As RSKeisuke and mocax advised, drinking plenty of water is crucial for flushing uric acid from your system.14
  5. Listen to Your Doctor: It's great that you are on Allopurinol, as prescribed by your doctor. This medication is a cornerstone of long-term gout management. Continue to follow your doctor's advice and discuss any concerns about your diet and potential triggers with them or a registered dietitian.15
In conclusion, while the science says most nuts should be safe and even beneficial for gout, the anecdotal evidence from you and others in the forum highlights that individual reactions are very real. The best approach is to be your own health detective, use the general advice as a guideline, and carefully figure out what works for your body.
Thank you. But the above seems to be from Google AI which I searched this afternoon LOL. But thank you for sharing!
 

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I concur carbs and sugar too. IMMEDIATE within hours after drinking coke / soft drinks (probably due to high Sucrose). Carbs sometimes yes, sometimes not so immediate.
Go watch the video I gave and related and you will understand the pathway why the carbs and sugar produc uric acid. And why lean meat but not fatty increase uric acid.
 

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Different people got different triggers cos different bodies react differently :)
I generally have no problem with other foods, but moment I drink 1 beer, BAM, gout flare
A friend of mine have no problems with most food but moment touch beef (other red meat ok), BAM, gout flare
So, find your own trigger.. if u wanna search chatgpt, gemini and collate all the answers, you'll be left with a v small subset of foods :spin:
 

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For gout, the trigger food for each individual are different. I have gout. The foods that trigger my gout is different to those of my friends.

For me, chickpeas and cauliflower are my Achilles heel. They will trigger gout within 30mins - 1 hour of consumption. Shell fish is when I consume too much then it will trigger.

Oh the flip side, other stuff that typically triggers gout for others I am fine no issues...

So it is up to each individual.
 
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