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Yes, all of the roasters we partner with roast on demand. For Red Bird Coffee and our partnering roasters, the roast profiles of the beans are such that they are at their best after resting for 8-9 days. So when the beans reaches you, they will be at their best for consumption. We have in fact done a trial shipment for the various coffees and no staleness is detected. Is it better than the local offerings? We can only say there's a reason why our partners are considered by coffee lovers as some of the best roasters in the world. They are very particular on the freshness of their coffee and will not be willing to work with us if their coffee is unable to deliver at its best. It doesn't do justice to their reputation. You have to try them for yourself. You won't be disappointed. We aren't.



Usually beans are best at 12-48 hrs after roast. It's quite unusual beans are best 8-9 days. I know in Singapore humid conditions may not ideal for long rest
 

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Usually beans are best at 12-48 hrs after roast. It's quite unusual beans are best 8-9 days. I know in Singapore humid conditions may not ideal for long rest

We agree. However, for Red Bird, it requires a longer rest. The transition period acts as a buffer for degassing and rest for the beans. It will be at its best when it reaches you.
 

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No way to know its best too, ship here 8-9 day past the best or best how would u know?
Not like u can pull a shot daily and test to find the best and verify sales person words.
 

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Usually beans are best at 12-48 hrs after roast. It's quite unusual beans are best 8-9 days. I know in Singapore humid conditions may not ideal for long rest

There is some unusual anecdotal evidence from some reputable roasters that certain varietals do not degas even after 1 month in a bag with 1 way valve. From my limited home barista experience, 1 week is usually the time the beans start to peak and show its quality. 2 weeks is still good with hardly any difference in quality. 3 weeks is pushing it. Will visibly see less crema and less aroma. 4 weeks is the max for espresso. Still great for brewed coffee though.
 

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It depends on how the coffee are kept la.
If it's not exposed to humidity and O2, it can last a lot longer since nothing is deteriorating it.

There's no such thing as "best" coffee or "best" time to have it.
Unless you can prove it with some scientific backing, else it's just sales talk. If it's properly bagged and vacuum sealed, it can still remain tasting good or even better than some roasters who roasted recently but did not keep well.

Alot of roasters out there claim to provide the freshest, in the end, it's similar to supermarket coffee. I have zero trust in them.
Tell you what blend is inside, is all they say one, it could be a repackaged from the nearest roasting selling to kopitiam.
 

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Alot of roasters out there claim to provide the freshest, in the end, it's similar to supermarket coffee. I have zero trust in them.
Tell you what blend is inside, is all they say one, it could be a repackaged from the nearest roasting selling to kopitiam.

Really? Tell us which roaster u have tried that taste like supermarket coffee?

Maybe u could roast your own but becareful that green kona or geisha could be some cheap Brazilian robusta u know. U gotta make a pilgrimage to the farm, personally hand pick, ferment and dry it with armed guards lest some joker decides to swap your precious stash. After that seal the stuff under lock and key before personally lugging it with your hand carry (after a massive argument with customs at the airport and a sizable bribe)



Or maybe u should stick with tea. :s13:
 

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I heard snake oil coffee taste better.

The beans are so oily to form a thick crema.
According to inhouse edmw experts, it's good.
 

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Hi all the coffee experts here, my bodum chambord broke while washing... understand this thread is more espresso talk than others, but if i want to spend less than <200 on equipment what are my options other than another french press?

I still have a mokapot, but I don't like how it taste compared to FP when using light roasted beans, which is all i like to drink. I've tried an aeropress and it's quite good, though I don't mind sedimentations with a french press. After starbuckssg started stocking the blond roast thats all i buy, except when there is christmas blend available.

Any recommendations? Gamxia
 

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I heard snake oil coffee taste better.

The beans are so oily to form a thick crema.
According to inhouse edmw experts, it's good.

Another useless post. If you claim that roasters are defrauding buyers by selling beans which are not from the origin that is claimed to be then u better back it up. I'm sure there are unscrupulous businessmen in the coffee industry but claiming that there is no difference between specialty coffee and supermarket brands is simply a case of plain ignorance of the coffee industry.
 

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Hi all the coffee experts here, my bodum chambord broke while washing... understand this thread is more espresso talk than others, but if i want to spend less than <200 on equipment what are my options other than another french press?

I still have a mokapot, but I don't like how it taste compared to FP when using light roasted beans, which is all i like to drink. I've tried an aeropress and it's quite good, though I don't mind sedimentations with a french press. After starbuckssg started stocking the blond roast thats all i buy, except when there is christmas blend available.

Any recommendations? Gamxia

All coffee discussions are welcome! If you like light roasted beans then generally u may want to consider going for a brewing system that prevents the coffee from infusing in the hot water for too long. Get a method that also allows u to control the temperature as well. Usually beans are light roasted by the roaster to preserve delicate flavours and u need a extraction method that will extract out these flavours, lower temp, less contact with water/heat and grind finer.

Pourover methods like V60, kalita, and chemex are popular for delicate coffee. v60 filter papers are readily available at department stores, tangs, isetan etc. Use a thermometer in your kettle to verify the correct temp before starting to pour. If you want something more durable get a plastic v60, 8 dollars only.

Get aeropress if you want something that is very forgiving and hard to go wrong.

Moka pot and siphon are harder to control the temperatures because of the direct heat source.

Or you can go all out and get a bunntrifecta! if you are a coffee geek and would like to control as many parameters as possible.
the trifecta experience | the brewer for baristas | specialty coffee

Oh and most importantly, get fresh coffee and grind only when u are going to brew. I feel a grinder with an even particle size is important for brewed coffee esp french press. my porlex hand grinder generates too many fines with light roasted coffee and can choke the paper filter of the v60. thinking of exploring a rosco, lido2, knockhaus for a better grind.

Geisha speciality coffee is selling Fuji royal r220 coffee grinder now. It looks like a mahlkonig ek43 but much cheaper. I understand these class of grinders were initially designed for grinding spices etc. The burrsets look very different and they supposedly produce less fines.

http://www.home-barista.com/brewing/fuji-royal-r-220-t16511.html
 
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All coffee discussions are welcome! If you like light roasted beans then generally u may want to consider going for a brewing system that prevents the coffee from infusing in the hot water for too long. Get a method that also allows u to control the temperature as well. Usually beans are light roasted by the roaster to preserve delicate flavours and u need a extraction method that will extract out these flavours, lower temp, less contact with water/heat and grind finer.

Pourover methods like V60, kalita, and chemex are popular for delicate coffee. v60 filter papers are readily available at department stores, tangs, isetan etc. Use a thermometer in your kettle to verify the correct temp before starting to pour. If you want something more durable get a plastic v60, 8 dollars only.

Get aeropress if you want something that is very forgiving and hard to go wrong.

Moka pot and siphon are harder to control the temperatures because of the direct heat source.

Or you can go all out and get a bunntrifecta! if you are a coffee geek and would like to control as many parameters as possible.
the trifecta experience | the brewer for baristas | specialty coffee

Oh and most importantly, get fresh coffee and grind only when u are going to brew. I feel a grinder with an even particle size is important for brewed coffee esp french press. my porlex hand grinder generates too many fines with light roasted coffee and can choke the paper filter of the v60. thinking of exploring a rosco, lido2, knockhaus for a better grind.

Geisha speciality coffee is selling Fuji royal r220 coffee grinder now. It looks like a mahlkonig ek43 but much cheaper. I understand these class of grinders were initially designed for grinding spices etc. The burrsets look very different and they supposedly produce less fines.

Fuji Royal R-220 - Coffee Brewing • Home-Barista.com

thanks! i was starting to lose hope getting opinions after the first reply :s13:

agree with you on the freshness part too. imo it is the cheapest ($0) and easiest way to get better coffee. i usually share a pkt of fresh grind with a friend so 10 days is the max any coffee powder is on the shelf.

again, appreciate all those detailed tips on the eqs.
 

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Quite a few cynics here too I feel. But we're all entitled to our own opinions and luckily most are based on user experiences.
The most important thing is just trust your own tastes buds!
 

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Quite a few cynics here too I feel. But we're all entitled to our own opinions and luckily most are based on user experiences.
The most important thing is just trust your own tastes buds!

Also,good enough can liao, perfection need to pay a lot and you may not be able to discern it. ;)
 
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