(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

[Lazy_Tiger]

I gave up on electric grinders now. I never touch my Lelit since the HG One arrived. The margin of error on the HG One is so big that I rarely pull a sink shot.
Now that I waste zero beans, my pack of 250gm last me 2 days longer.

Have you check out the new version of the HG One? They changed it to stepped adjustments with laser etched markings. Its 40usd more ex now but the new changes are worth it.

Last week I went to Highlander for the free barista class. I noticed they have a HG One too! I asked Cedric about it and he said they bought 3 about 6 months ago. 2 of them were still BNIB and stored away. You might wanna give them a call if you're interested.

Thanks for the tip! The hg one looks to be of good quality burrs and solid construction.

 

[The_King]

you guys own lot of machine before. mine much more easier, french press for 3+ year then a lever machine.

very close to getting a nespresso but lucky never. cause could not find a cheaper coffee caspuse.

Very happy with my lever machine now. Spend less then $20 for about 3 to 4 weeks(about 4 to 8 shot per week) of coffee bean

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

you guys own lot of machine before. mine much more easier, french press for 3+ year then a lever machine.

very close to getting a nespresso but lucky never. cause could not find a cheaper coffee caspuse.

Very happy with my lever machine now. Spend less then $20 for about 3 to 4 weeks(about 4 to 8 shot per week) of coffee bean

Your path is much wiser

1 solid machine and 1 solid grinder is enough already.

I want to get rid of my jura semi auto but nobody interested cos even I find it hard to recommend to people to use it. haiz....

 

[chikyblink]

I started with aeropress (still using), then straight to my Vibiemme HX.
Very close to getting the Silvia but lucky never.

 

[derazor]

I started with aeropress (still using), then straight to my Vibiemme HX.
Very close to getting the Silvia but lucky never.

started of with

french > aeropress ( awhile only ) > silvia w/ pid

I was at cafe asia yday with wifey, we tested Toby's Estate and Santiago. She preferred Toby's then I ask, the one I make at home how, similar? She said yeah. Cool

when you froth the milk you don't use ALL of the milk esp at the end whereby there's a lot of froth?

So far I don't have a latte cup just use any mug that I can find, does it affect latte art?

I was looking at d'ancap cups , which is the "correct" size?

Ancap Verona Teal Cups and Saucers | Prima Coffee

Say double shots of espresso is 60ml and milk to coffee ratio is 1:3, hence milk is 180ml. Total is 180+60 = 240ml which is 8.1oz. Should I be getting a 8.8oz cup?

For espresso is 2.5oz ?

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

I started with aeropress (still using), then straight to my Vibiemme HX.
Very close to getting the Silvia but lucky never.

Haha you had budget for hx e61 as your first machine. Honestly the Silvia can make espresso as good as the larger boiler ones. Just need to be very precise and careful with dosing and distribution and need to temp surf

While it can be a nightmare for newbie I think it actually a good learning tool in the long run as it forces the user to be very disciplined when pulling the shot.

 

[chikyblink]

Now my backside is itchy again, thinking of hooting pharos and lido 2 to play with.
But the pharos very hard to get now, Doug said he sian already, if free only he'll put up a few for sale.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

started of with

french > aeropress ( awhile only ) > silvia w/ pid

I was at cafe asia yday with wifey, we tested Toby's Estate and Santiago. She preferred Toby's then I ask, the one I make at home how, similar? She said yeah. Cool

when you froth the milk you don't use ALL of the milk esp at the end whereby there's a lot of froth?

So far I don't have a latte cup just use any mug that I can find, does it affect latte art?

I was looking at d'ancap cups , which is the "correct" size?

Ancap Verona Teal Cups and Saucers | Prima Coffee

Say double shots of espresso is 60ml and milk to coffee ratio is 1:3, hence milk is 180ml. Total is 180+60 = 240ml which is 8.1oz. Should I be getting a 8.8oz cup?

For espresso is 2.5oz ?

the portion with alot of froth can be minimised by good swirling in the pitcher during the 2nd stage and introducing very little air in the 1st stage. but you are right, in inevitably with have some.

I think for latte art not so much the volume cup but more of getting a cup with a nice large diameter to give you the freedom. Latte art can still be made with tiny piccolo lattes.

Anyway a barista from common man roaster won the SNBC this year right? common man seems to get their beans from five senses....i'm very interested to try...

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Now my backside is itchy again, thinking of hooting pharos and lido 2 to play with.
But the pharos very hard to get now, Doug said he sian already, if free only he'll put up a few for sale.

i;ll probably get a lido 2 or rosco hand grinder to replace the porlex over the next few mths. Porlex is a good grinder for camping and backpack , small and durable body but there is too much play between the burrs due to the simple design. I get boulders and too much fines when grinding for a v60.

Lido 2 is much cheaper but seems less durable with plastic and glass parts. The rosco looks rock solid with the brass body but its 2x the price of the lido2!

 

[The_King]

Now my backside is itchy again, thinking of hooting pharos and lido 2 to play with.
But the pharos very hard to get now, Doug said he sian already, if free only he'll put up a few for sale.

i thought getting one more to keep it backup. cause this is one of the few item that i did not need a long time to research

it is really value for money

 

[The_King]

i;ll probably get a lido 2 or rosco hand grinder to replace the porlex over the next few mths. Porlex is a good grinder for camping and backpack , small and durable body but there is too much play between the burrs due to the simple design. I get boulders and too much fines when grinding for a v60.

Lido 2 is much cheaper but seems less durable with plastic and glass parts. The rosco looks rock solid with the brass body but its 2x the price of the lido2!

back then when i was looking for a grinder.

i thought if getting the lido 1.

but many guys from home barista, coffee greek said many time that lido and pharos are not at the same league, lido grind not consistent, the glass break easily. that is for lido 1. not sure about lido 2 (i did see the video from doug) but never really read about it as i already got a pharos and have stop researching


and the only complain i read from those forums about phraos is. heavy, need to shake,big size, not portable.

not once i spotted them complain about the consistency of the grind


are for the other like hg one, rosco. the price is what put me off. but if you need detail on hg one, i sure chikyblink is the right guy for you

 

[chikyblink]

i;ll probably get a lido 2 or rosco hand grinder to replace the porlex over the next few mths. Porlex is a good grinder for camping and backpack , small and durable body but there is too much play between the burrs due to the simple design. I get boulders and too much fines when grinding for a v60.

Lido 2 is much cheaper but seems less durable with plastic and glass parts. The rosco looks rock solid with the brass body but its 2x the price of the lido2!

ever consider Made By Knock's Hausgrind? the wooden body is very sexy


Knock Hausgrind vs. Orphan Espresso (BETA) LIDO 2 - Double Blind Test - Grinders • Home-Barista.com

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

ever consider Made By Knock's Hausgrind? the wooden body is very sexy


Knock Hausgrind vs. Orphan Espresso (BETA) LIDO 2 - Double Blind Test - Grinders • Home-Barista.com

Thanks for the additional option!

So now I have a few to consider
1. Housgrind by Knock
2. Lido 2 by Orphanespresso
3. Rosco Mini by Portapresso
4. HG One
5. Pharos by OE

Will be using it for:
1. Brewed coffee only, no espresso....yet. May consider for office espresso brewing in future.
2. No need for portability. Can just plant it in the pantry.

I wonder if the larger conicals have any advantage over the smaller 38mm ones from the lido or housgrind.

i understand large conicals have a bimodal distribution of particle size instead of a unimodal one better for espresso but maybe not so good for brewed. Am I correct?

 

[chikyblink]

i understand large conicals have a bimodal distribution of particle size instead of a unimodal one better for espresso but maybe not so good for brewed. Am I correct?

Your England very cheem.
If I guessed correctly, what you mean is that large conicals produce more fines which is better for espresso. While the smaller conicals produce a more even particle size which is better for brew.
Then from what I've read, yes, that's true. So for brewed coffee, I guess you have rule out options 4 and 5.

I haven't got the time or patience to test out my HG One vs my hario mini for brew. Maybe the next time when I buy a single origin I'll do so.

I'm in a dilemma choosing between the Knock and Lido2.

Knock:
1. Love the wood
2. Easier to turn but require more revolutions
3. Weighs lighter than Lido2
4. Slightly more expensive
5. Ease of dial adjustments

Lido2
1. Glass and plastic but I believe they're of high quality and would last a lifetime
2. Harder to turn but require less revolutions due to the slightly larger burr
3. Weighs twice as heavy
4. More even particle size

Not the slightest bit interested in the Rosco though.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Your England very cheem.
If I guessed correctly, what you mean is that large conicals produce more fines which is better for espresso. While the smaller conicals produce a more even particle size which is better for brew.
Then from what I've read, yes, that's true. So for brewed coffee, I guess you have rule out options 4 and 5.

I haven't got the time or patience to test out my HG One vs my hario mini for brew. Maybe the next time when I buy a single origin I'll do so.

I'm in a dilemma choosing between the Knock and Lido2.

Knock:
1. Love the wood
2. Easier to turn but require more revolutions
3. Weighs lighter than Lido2
4. Slightly more expensive
5. Ease of dial adjustments

Lido2
1. Glass and plastic but I believe they're of high quality and would last a lifetime
2. Harder to turn but require less revolutions due to the slightly larger burr
3. Weighs twice as heavy
4. More even particle size

Not the slightest bit interested in the Rosco though.

I think would be good to wait out a bit before jumping on the lido 2 because its new and undergone an almost complete redesign.

But seems that the lido 2 is better for brewed coffee because of the even particle size which is the main reason I wanted to upgrade from a porlex!

 

[chikyblink]

I think would be good to wait out a bit before jumping on the lido 2 because its new and undergone an almost complete redesign.

But seems that the lido 2 is better for brewed coffee because of the even particle size which is the main reason I wanted to upgrade from a porlex!

Well ppl are already receiving the 1st batch, so the next few weeks will be interesting.
The next batch ships in May, so there's 2 months of decisions and waiting.

 

[TinyPocoyo]

ts setup starbug at home ah

 

[antonpoh]

Anyone try this Mypressi Twist Espresso Maker before?

Mypressi Twist Espresso Maker

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

Anyone try this Mypressi Twist Espresso Maker before?

Mypressi Twist Espresso Maker

Never tried but the pours look impressive. Was considered it as a travel set up but a friend said its very heavy and bulky compared to pourover alternatives. Also it uses CO2 cartridges so its not airline friendly.

The handpresso is an alternative. Never tasted before but doesn't seem to pour as nicely as mypresso.

Another one is the portapresso system. Very hands on... You are still screwing to maintain the pressure for their hand espresso system. They have another system where you use a bicycle pump to pump a reusable air cartridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MacTaOjGKCI

All suffer from temp stability and needs to be preheated ALOT and brew without delay after loading in the water to prevent brewing with cold water.

 

[The_King]

handpresso

Amazon.com: Handpresso Wild Hybrid Coffee Machine: Kitchen & Dining

ship to SG


and rok

Amazon.com: ROK ROKMAKER Manual Espresso Maker: Kitchen & Dining


both of these 2 machine produce strong coffee, not esspresso