Guide to SPF Enlistment

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U mean By our NRIC? So lets say example, S955xxxxb will be together with S956xxxxb?
Which means in the bunk, all will be same age ah?

Can say so if they number the Ic like that to correct my words it's by bday and year born, can be older or younger depends lor

Your squad will be the guys who share the bunk with you. Your bunks are really based on luck, for example, my squad was divided into squads based on my FI, whereas other squads were put into their squads based on their names on the squad list (based on NRIC no.)

It really depends on how your FI wants to take the squad. Some are really enthu as it is their first squad, others just follow the squad list.
 

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So actually its all by luck? There will be possibility of 1 whole squad with all malay or only 1 chinese right?

Sorry not trying to be racist but just to clarify things.

It really depends on how your FI wants to take the squad. Some are really enthu as it is their first squad, others just follow the squad list.
 

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So actually its all by luck? There will be possibility of 1 whole squad with all malay or only 1 chinese right?

Sorry not trying to be racist but just to clarify things.

No worries, yes, majority of your squad will be Malay. However, the scenario you just proposed is highly unlikely. But do not take it as a disadvantage, take advantage, learn a new language and even learn about the muslim culture, broaden your knowledge....:D
 

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No worries, yes, majority of your squad will be Malay. However, the scenario you just proposed is highly unlikely. But do not take it as a disadvantage, take advantage, learn a new language and even learn about the muslim culture, broaden your knowledge....:D

Haha! Got 1 Squad my intake got 3 chinese or 2 in I remember correctly haha and my squad got 1 bunk 1 chinese only haha lucky he know a bit malay
 

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Lastly, try to keep an open mind, do not think that one person is dumb because he is from ITE, or someone is cocky because he is from JC, some of my best friends and smartest people I know are from ITE, and currently studying very hard.

Haha! Got 1 Squad my intake got 3 chinese or 2 in I remember correctly haha and my squad got 1 bunk 1 chinese only haha lucky he know a bit malay

Remember to keep an open mind to anything. I was lucky that my squad was at least a 60/39/1 mix of malay to chinese to indian.
 

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Thanks alot. If they are providing, then i guess no point bringing haha

but we still would need to bring at least the SOR transcript to prove though. highly doubt even if we are unable to get the cert we can just go in without anything
 

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If your certs are lost/misplaced/missing, the transcript will work fine. however, seeing that the both of you are from poly, then the system should be updated to the latest, showing that you are indeed from RP and have already graduated.


but we still would need to bring at least the SOR transcript to prove though. highly doubt even if we are unable to get the cert we can just go in without anything


Yup, do not go in empty handed, there was one guy from my intake who went to ITE then Poly, the system had not updated yet as he just finished Poly(hasn't even gone for the ceremony). Therefore he was first put into a NITEC squad, and after he showed his latest transcript, he was transferred to the Poly squad.
 

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Enjoy yourself. Training is not tough compared to what we heard like in SCDF, Army, Navy.

But after u POP, things changed. Nothing is simulated or simulations like in Army. You face the public and real life stuff.

Take good care!
 

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Enjoy yourself. Training is not tough compared to what we heard like in SCDF, Army, Navy.

But after u POP, things changed. Nothing is simulated or simulations like in Army. You face the public and real life stuff.

Take good care!

I would say that in SPF, you get mind-f*cked, and in SAF, you are physically f*cked
 

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Just went down to rp and this is what they gave me.

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but we still would need to bring at least the SOR transcript to prove though. highly doubt even if we are unable to get the cert we can just go in without anything
 

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called em and was told i can collect it later at 4.30 (just now when i called that is). btw just noticed but we have to bring down the bank book also?
 

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I dont have any phyiscal bank book. So i just gonna skip that apart. If they ask, i just give them my account number
 

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that one is to just confirm, u can like print out or something tell them your bank account can le.
Good luck guys!! You will love the Food! :) Bring KIWI to polish your boots the one they give is CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM ;)
To Iron your pants when you take out unfold it but keep it the way its align for you already just iron str8 dont adjust and if can bring your own iron or can borrow from the OB
 

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Be sure to check out the latest updated guide! Those enlisting next Tuesday especially, 168 Fit Intake, I'm talking about you guys.....

MANGKOK GUIDE TO SPF Enlistment 2017

Before enlisting into SPF, I had lots of questions and I thought I'd write this for all the people who are going to enlist in SPF for NS, now and in the future.

Things to bring/wear on enlistment:

- Wear a decent shirt & jeans for oath taking
- enough underwear for 10 days
- Singlets (3 white to wear under your no. 3 as well as book out attire)*
- Qualification certificates
- Pen & paper (writing materials, recommend bringing a small notepad)
- SHAVER, DEODORANT* & other toiletries
- A basket for your toiletries (very important)
- Magiclean Wiper Dry Sheet (And if you have room to spare, the stick as well)*#
- Kiwi & lint-free cloth*
- 8 hangers at least (if you like being neat, if not 6 will do)
- Plastic bags for storing your used clothes (there will be a lot)
- A torch light*
- Home clothes to sleep in, one or two sets (not a must, but personally I found it more comfortable)
- Febreeze (Any scent will do, I personally found the double strength one smelling the best)*
- Washing powder, stain remover & scrub^

* indicates this is not mentioned in the enlistment letter.
^ I recommend bringing washing powder, stain remover and a scrub to hand wash your clothes.
# Do not cheap out and buy the $2 ones from Daiso, they do not work as well and will really impact your room's cleanliness

You will be issued all your items on the first day of enlistment. There isn't a need to bring a lot of change of clothes.

General Information
Do not try to bring in cigarettes, lighters, power banks or chargers. You will be confined if caught. (HTA is a non smoking camp, and no, there are no yellow boxes) This is not just a threat, it is true. When caught, the whole intake will suffer, not just your squad or yourself.

Confinement is for 10 days irregardless of whether you are in a BP, less fit or fit squad. There is no such thing as waiting for the fit squad before confinement.

Acronyms used in the following post:
FI = Field instructor (They are your equivalent sergeant in army, although they might not be sergeant rank)

CM = Course Manager (They are regular that will be teaching you law and helping you with admin matters.)

Coy Com = Company Commander (NSF inspector rank, they are your "discipline master" in HTA, their job is to tekan you.)

Lodging
There are partitions in the shower room. You will not be seeing any wild birds.

Every bunk holds 10 men. Do not bring an over-sized bag on enlistment day because you do not want to try stuffing two large bags into your cupboard. The FIs will expect you to do that.

Choose your bed carefully. Generally all beds are fine, but the beds at the far ends are a little hotter and the middle beds are cold AF. For some squads you will not be able to choose your own bed. So I recommend bringing a pair of long pants to sleep in if you get cold easily. The blankets at HTA are good, but they are small and don't really keep you very warm.

'Keng'ing
The FIs in HTA are mostly not unreasonable people. If you keng they will know. At the same time, if you are genuinely ill/injured, they will most certainly understand. My personal suggestion to you is to not keng as much as possible, as being on light duty requires you to be in book out attire all the time and is hot and uncomfortable.

Hair matters
Shave everyday or you will definitely die a horrible death.

I suggest you cut your hair a day or two before enlistment. Make sure you cut it extremely short, what I did was I cut it a day before enlistment and asked for no 1 army style. You may or may not do as I do, it's your choice. If you let the barber cut your hair, you will have to pay $2, your hair will stick to your skin and you will feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable before you get to take a bath/wash your hair in the evening.

Washing your clothes
There are washing machines in the coy, however, you will not be allowed to use them till after confinement. So learn to hand-wash, it is easier and cheaper than using coins to wash your clothes. I never used the washing machine during my stay at HTA, because hand washing was a lot faster, is free, and sometimes the washing machines in the coy are being used by the FIs, or Coy Comms.

DO NOT WALK OUT OF YOUR COY WITHOUT PERMISSION. If a roll call is done and you are absent, you can be charged for AWOL. This is NOT a light charge.

You will be punished as a squad. Do not think you can get away with being selfish. You will be punished even if you have done nothing wrong. It is your responsibility to make sure your squad mates do nothing against the rules.

Uniforms
There is a certain way to iron your uniform. Make sure there are ZERO creases on your shirt or trousers. The lines must be VERY visible. For your trousers make sure the line ends all the way up to the waist of your pants , on both the front and rear. Generally during confinement you will not be wearing your no.3, and your FI will not expect your uniform to be in top condition just yet, however, if you are really unclear on how to iron your uniform, ask and it shall be given unto you. Seriously though, your FI will teach you how to iron your uniform if you just ask.

Squads
Choose your squad IC very, very carefully. If you get an incapable squad IC, be prepared to hear the following very often:

"WHY YOUR SEDIA SOUND LIKE BIRD ****!?"
"WHOLE LOT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!!"
"TOO SLOW! ON YOUR FEET UP! TO THE LEFT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!"
"WHEN I SAY DOWN YOU GO DOWN WHEN I SAY UP YOU COME UP UNDERSTAND MANGKOK???"

For the uninitiated, "to the left/right on your palms down" means push up position 45 degrees in the specified direction.

There will be three main IC positions to fill, the Squad IC, Squad 2IC and the Communications IC. The comms IC will be the one to liaison with your CM & FI, and let them know where you are. They get to have a charger, but do not make this the main reason to become an IC. If you were from an uniformed group in your secondary school, please volunteer to become the IC, it will make your stay at HTA a lot smoother, trust me, been there, done that.

These three IC positions will be allowed to carry their phones with them as they are the main contact between the squad and their FIs/CMs

CAMERA PHONES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN HTA. At least for trainees, just buy a cheap $50 Nokia phone and you should be fine. In my opinion, buying a non camera smartphone is a complete waste of money as the battery will not last long and you are not allowed a PowerBank.

Clocks
Bring an alarm clock, you will need it. For those without one, go to a clock shop and ask for the NS alarm clock, it's super cheap and really loud and useful.

A watch will be useful, but after a while you will find it a hassle as during PT sessions you will have to take it off. But for those who want one, you will need to get it in either black, grey or dark blue. Otherwise, you won't be able to wear it.

Other useful information
Mangkok is a Home Team thing, so don't bother asking your army friends what it means. Mangkok means bowl in Malay, and does not pertain to your bowl haircut, it's due to the nature that your bowl (aka head) is empty, in short, calling you an empty head, or not having a brain.

Lastly, try to keep an open mind, do not think that one person is dumb because he is from ITE, or someone is cocky because he is from JC, some of my best friends and smartest people I know are from ITE, and currently studying very hard.

Coming from a mangkok myself, I hope this guide helps all the future mangkoks enlisting in SPF. If any of you feel like adding to it, go ahead and do so. I should say this is all the information I wish I knew when I enlisted but didn't. All this will make your 10 day confinement and subsequent first few weeks a much more enjoyable time.

Original post from SgForums 10 years ago here: http://sgforums.com/forums/1480/topics/245592
Thanks to fellow forum member sacar101 for the acronyms!

If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me or post in the thread, and I will be happy to answer any of the more private questions..... Cheers!
 

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Be sure to check out the latest updated guide! Those enlisting next Tuesday especially, 168 Fit Intake, I'm talking about you guys.....

Thanks Parmesan, have been following this thread for some time now

Just wanna ask, can I wear this watch?

seiko-5-men-s-automatic-military-style-black-face-nylon-strap-snk809k2-snk809-163-p.jpg


It has a fabric strap, but the casing is metal and the packing list only mentioned "inexpensive watch with dark-coloured plastic/fabric strap only" but didn't mention the material and the colour of the watch body

168 Fit Intake here
 

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MANGKOK GUIDE TO SPF Enlistment 2017


Clocks
A watch will be useful, but after a while you will find it a hassle as during PT sessions you will have to take it off. But for those who want one, you will need to get it in either black, grey or dark blue. Otherwise, you won't be able to wear it.

Thanks Parmesan, have been following this thread for some time now

Just wanna ask, can I wear this watch?

seiko-5-men-s-automatic-military-style-black-face-nylon-strap-snk809k2-snk809-163-p.jpg


It has a fabric strap, but the casing is metal and the packing list only mentioned "inexpensive watch with dark-coloured plastic/fabric strap only" but didn't mention the material and the colour of the watch body

168 Fit Intake here

Like I mentioned in the post, the watch should be black, dark blue or grey. I personally would not recommend brining in an analog watch, mainly because I find it kind of a hassle and I like to have a stopwatch to help me time my runs.

To answer your question, you can wear it in, I just would not recommend it.

Nice to see that you have been following this post! Hope you let any future friends know of this thread that will be enlisting.

Also, welcome to the force 168!
 

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Like I mentioned in the post, the watch should be black, dark blue or grey. I personally would not recommend brining in an analog watch, mainly because I find it kind of a hassle and I like to have a stopwatch to help me time my runs.

To answer your question, you can wear it in, I just would not recommend it.

Nice to see that you have been following this post! Hope you let any future friends know of this thread that will be enlisting.

Also, welcome to the force 168!

Appreicated!
 
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