[GVGT] Camcar video of Katong incident

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Yes I frequently experienced this and it’s annoying to me as a driver. Because do you really expect me to wait behind you at 30km/h on a 70km/h road?

if you’re that concern about safety then don’t ride on the road. Else do it when traffic is minimal

I will just honk honk him if he jammed up the whole road. If car at my back honked me, I sure honked too.

But usually those competitive ones ride away very fast.
 

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i wonder y govn dun wanna do anything about these cyclists

it sure sounds as if road traffic laws and vehicle laws/regulations only apply to cars and motors/lorries/vans now

these cyclists are using the road and causing accidents then they just cycle away

even if car buang them cus of their blatant defiance of the law, they are often not punished by the law for causing accidents
 

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Facts based on camcar video.

Cyclist on left most lane.
Car overtake to turn left on slip road.
Car got ahead of cyclist and turn left.
Cyclist wasn't affect nor slowed down by turning car.
 

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that's illegal right?
It is perfectly legal. And it is safer for cyclists. In the States and UK, it is very normal to see the AMDK rides in the middle of the road (slowest lane lah). They don't risk themselves squeezing in between 2 cars, or riding uncomfortable keeping to the left side all the time.

My AMDK friend said our cyclists ( or motorcyclists ) are risking their life by riding on the left side or squeezing between 2 cars. Now I feel what he said make sense.

A motorcycle also can ride in the middle of the lane.

If you know you are amateur, better stay on the PCN.
 

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That doesn't change the fact for all the users behind them and block by cyclist inconsiderstion should have an expectation not to be inconvenience by the cyclist or under the threat of getting into an accident due to cyclist inconsiderate when a normal driver or motorcyclist is using their vehicle normally along the road.

The cyclist if showing such inconsideration would not be entitled to it.

If she dun wan to get knocked down then dun be inconsiderate. Keep left and dun block ppl, dismount if possible since the road is narrow and wheel her bicycle on the footpath.
Exactly how fast you expect the cyclist to cycle?
I also wish every other slowpoke driver can go faster and don't hold up driving traffic, but when I encounter one I also have to suck thumb and either slow down so as not to bang them or filter safely to get past them..

Isn't this normal expectation for everyone? I imagine that if I have the right to cut people off just because they are going slower than I like, I would be cutting people off left and right all the time.

Like it or not, we all share the road. Fast and slow alike..
 

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It is perfectly legal. And it is safer for cyclists. In the States and UK, it is very normal to see the AMDK rides in the middle of the road (slowest lane lah). They don't risk themselves squeezing in between 2 cars, or riding uncomfortable keeping to the left side all the time.

My AMDK friend said our cyclists ( or motorcyclists ) are risking their life by riding on the left side or squeezing between 2 cars. Now I feel what he said make sense.

A motorcycle also can ride in the middle of the lane.

If you know you are amateur, better stay on the PCN.
perfectly legal? they are suppose to keep to the left right? and not cycle in the middle of the lane.
 

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It is perfectly legal. And it is safer for cyclists. In the States and UK, it is very normal to see the AMDK rides in the middle of the road (slowest lane lah). They don't risk themselves squeezing in between 2 cars, or riding uncomfortable keeping to the left side all the time.

My AMDK friend said our cyclists ( or motorcyclists ) are risking their life by riding on the left side or squeezing between 2 cars. Now I feel what he said make sense.

A motorcycle also can ride in the middle of the lane.

If you know you are amateur, better stay on the PCN.
As a cyclist I do feel it is safer to come out a bit further.
Often the extreme left of the road has debris and also gutters, dangerous. Cars also pass very close.

If you come out by about 30 cm it is a lot safer.
 

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It is perfectly legal. And it is safer for cyclists. In the States and UK, it is very normal to see the AMDK rides in the middle of the road (slowest lane lah). They don't risk themselves squeezing in between 2 cars, or riding uncomfortable keeping to the left side all the time.

My AMDK friend said our cyclists ( or motorcyclists ) are risking their life by riding on the left side or squeezing between 2 cars. Now I feel what he said make sense.

A motorcycle also can ride in the middle of the lane.

If you know you are amateur, better stay on the PCN.

Slow manual ridden bicycle should be ban on public road. Faster electric or fuel driven allowed.

Gov won't dare to implement.
 

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that's illegal right?

Depends.
All hinges on the word "PRACTICABLE".
It is practicable to stay in the middle of the lane if it's a straight & turning lane, there's debris on the left side of the lane, drain gutter on the left, on-going constructions, noobs without the skills to stay straight and ride near the kerb, a left exit coming up ahead, etc. etc.



Need to surface more of such stories for the cyclists to read.
Gory pictures will be even more effective.
 

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perfectly legal? they are suppose to keep to the left right? and not cycle in the middle of the lane.

I don't think it is illegal. Traffic police cannot fault these cyclists.

I see so many cyclists riding in the middle of the lane.

But most of them only ride in lesser traffic roads and not during peak hours.
 

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that's illegal right?
Illegal but no action can be taken onto them; TP not around every time and civillian cannot arrest these errant cyclist. Eben if liport polis also got what use; only waste your effort to even bother with these nonsense. The cyclists know the law cant do anything to them
 

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ROAD TRAFFIC ACT
(CHAPTER 276, SECTION 112)
Highway code section IV
63. Do not overtake when you are at, or when you are approaching —
(a)a pedestrian crossing;
(b)a road junction;
(c)a corner or bend;
(d)the brow of a hill; or
(e)a double white line.
64. Do not overtake —
(a)where the road narrows;
(b)if it would force another vehicle to swerve or reduce speed; or
(c)if in doubt.

So driver has no leg to stand on.
 

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ROAD TRAFFIC ACT
(CHAPTER 276, SECTION 112)
Highway code section IV
63. Do not overtake when you are at, or when you are approaching —
(a)a pedestrian crossing;
(b)a road junction;
(c)a corner or bend;
(d)the brow of a hill; or
(e)a double white line.
64. Do not overtake —
(a)where the road narrows;
(b)if it would force another vehicle to swerve or reduce speed; or
(c)if in doubt.

So driver has no leg to stand on.
It means that the driver should be faulted.

It is based on the principle of not performing any rash act that may have a chance to cause any harm to other road users.

When the car overtook at the left turn, it forced the cyclist to reduce speed.

The driver still continue to drive when the cyclist was on the bonnet.

Driver should be double charged! It is a crime of attempted murder.
 
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