[Help] Given wrong Windows by PCThemes

Godeau

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Oct 11, 2009
Messages
16,090
Reaction score
6,584
Over the years, Win7 OEM packaging also changed from plastic case to minimalistic envelop. The one that I purchased in 2014 was in blue, inside a white envelop..
 

kandinsky

Master Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2015
Messages
4,693
Reaction score
10
At least he got to use it. I paid more than USD100 for a MS Office 2010 key from Yugster and never got to use it. I was perfectly fine with MS Office 2007. When I eventually got around to installing MS Office 2010 about 3 years later, the key had been blocked and MS absolutely refused to give me a replacement even though I offered proof of purchase.

Yugster's attitude was basically "too bad, can't help ya". I have never bought from Yugster again.

His was official MS online store leh, if cannot use really got problem. Yugster is a deals site, may or may not be authorized keys for resale (like the reddit ones)... but USD100 is no joke. Also sim tia :(
 

Koenig168

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2007
Messages
10,104
Reaction score
1,780
His was official MS online store leh, if cannot use really got problem. Yugster is a deals site, may or may not be authorized keys for resale (like the reddit ones)... but USD100 is no joke. Also sim tia :(

Lesson learnt, though sim tia. :(
 

yusoffb01

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2008
Messages
16,857
Reaction score
1,787
I remembered in 2012 windows 8 was $18
12273710_10206760749549704_4664995150983046260_o.jpg


free upgrade..

1921119_10206760738469427_7593414474643902500_o.jpg


Plus windows 10 can use
 
Last edited:

Morugana

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2005
Messages
30,608
Reaction score
120
doesnt really matter oem or retail

just buy the cheaper key will do
 

JasonX

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2001
Messages
1,053
Reaction score
22
Iirc, most shops selling hdd will have the hdd wrapped in anti static bag, instead of retail box....

I think you are being too anal bah... all is working fine, just use it.

The same hdd i bought last year from another shop in sls, comes with a retail box.

Anyway, thats not the main point. I was just surprised that i got an OEM win10 even though its not listed on the pricelist as OEM. Next time will know that i'll have to ask to know if its oem or retail.
 

JasonX

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2001
Messages
1,053
Reaction score
22
doesnt really matter oem or retail

just buy the cheaper key will do

I expect to use win10 for at least 10 years. There won't be a win11. Now i'm not protected if i want to build another pc.

Understand that other ppl have posted "tricks" to reactivate oem on another hardware. Its just that it'll depend on luck on whether it works or not.
 

koroshiya8

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Messages
37,713
Reaction score
542
OEM will be useless once you change motherboard.. say your MOBO burn and you RMA another one, your key is basically useless. The CSO at M$ i talked to die die say cannot do anything because it's OEM
end up angwee i buy new key from Amazon.

Since you end up with OEM just be mindful your next upgrade need to factor in another OS cost.
 

MoneyFace =p

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2010
Messages
35,380
Reaction score
402
I expect to use win10 for at least 10 years. There won't be a win11. Now i'm not protected if i want to build another pc.

Understand that other ppl have posted "tricks" to reactivate oem on another hardware. Its just that it'll depend on luck on whether it works or not.
I got the feeling Microsoft may drop the current idea with incremental updates before the OS starts falling apart from having too many vulnerabilities and bugs from the addons. On the long run also not good to their revenue since users can just simply reuse their Windows 10 from scratch and update to the latest build...
 

enenyi

Supremacy Member
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
5,927
Reaction score
5
I got the feeling Microsoft may drop the current idea with incremental updates before the OS starts falling apart from having too many vulnerabilities and bugs from the addons. On the long run also not good to their revenue since users can just simply reuse their Windows 10 from scratch and update to the latest build...
If u do realise, Microsoft is following in Apple's footsteps. Apple has stopped charging its fan base money to buy new OS X versions. It has been upgrades and upgrades, to the point that OS X has essentially become a service Apple provides rather than an OS. Microsoft is starting to rebrand itself from an OS company to a service-oriented company, as evident in its subscription model for Microsoft Office. Long-term updates to Windows 10 is entirely possible and feasible. To the point that even if Windows 11 comes out, it could be an upgrade to Windows 10, much like what El Capitan is to Yosemite in the OS X platform.

But whether the service-oriented and subscription model works out for a company that has long been earning profits through standalone licensing, it remains to be seen.
 

JasonX

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2001
Messages
1,053
Reaction score
22
OEM will be useless once you change motherboard.. say your MOBO burn and you RMA another one, your key is basically useless. The CSO at M$ i talked to die die say cannot do anything because it's OEM
end up angwee i buy new key from Amazon.

Since you end up with OEM just be mindful your next upgrade need to factor in another OS cost.

Finally got ppl understand my pain. Everyone keeps saying like oem more worth it, but always fail to consider that unofficial ways to reactivate licenses may not work.

I feel that retail copy is the way to go for windows10, since its meant to last at least 10 years.
 

Mikiberry

Supremacy Member
Joined
Jun 26, 2010
Messages
5,107
Reaction score
0
Finally got ppl understand my pain. Everyone keeps saying like oem more worth it, but always fail to consider that unofficial ways to reactivate licenses may not work.

I feel that retail copy is the way to go for windows10, since its meant to last at least 10 years.

Then call PCT and MS and say you want to top up much more for a retail key then. Non of the forumers here can do anything besides your own action.
 

koroshiya8

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Messages
37,713
Reaction score
542
Finally got ppl understand my pain. Everyone keeps saying like oem more worth it, but always fail to consider that unofficial ways to reactivate licenses may not work.

I feel that retail copy is the way to go for windows10, since its meant to last at least 10 years.

OEM and retail serve their own purpose .....

anyway i feel the title is misleading... PCT give you wrong windows or you buy the wrong windows with your own assumption.
 

Op_Valkyrie

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
13,167
Reaction score
1,309
OEM and retail serve their own purpose .....

anyway i feel the title is misleading... PCT give you wrong windows or you buy the wrong windows with your own assumption.

I agree too... Can mod do something about the thread title? I also deem it as misleading and damaging to pct reputation...since its TS own assumption without any verification with pct and not done enough homework :s22:
 

MoneyFace =p

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2010
Messages
35,380
Reaction score
402
Finally got ppl understand my pain. Everyone keeps saying like oem more worth it, but always fail to consider that unofficial ways to reactivate licenses may not work.

I feel that retail copy is the way to go for windows10, since its meant to last at least 10 years.
People here have already tried and succeeded. Do you think we will tell you something that won't work and ask you to gamble on it?

Its too early to say if Windows 10 gonna last 10 years or so. If it doesn't then you will lose your gamble on paying the premium of retail version.
 
Last edited:

pedokuma

Supremacy Member
Joined
Apr 6, 2012
Messages
5,662
Reaction score
0
We merely providing feedbacks on what you can possibly do and the worst case scenario. You can try to push your case to Microsoft or go back pct and see if they can upgrade or settle for you.

Anyway, the up to three pc for retails is for win 7 and below. I am pretty sure they changed the terms and conditions for win 8 and above. You go ms site and search through the term and condition. Win 7 not suppose to get the free upgrade to win X but they still give free upgrade in the end for win 7.

Even Microsoft themselves said no difference between retail and oem, only supports differences. which I find online forum to be more efficient and faster than Microsoft support

Sent from Gresso Radical Black R1 using GAGT
 

MoneyFace =p

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2010
Messages
35,380
Reaction score
402
If u do realise, Microsoft is following in Apple's footsteps. Apple has stopped charging its fan base money to buy new OS X versions. It has been upgrades and upgrades, to the point that OS X has essentially become a service Apple provides rather than an OS. Microsoft is starting to rebrand itself from an OS company to a service-oriented company, as evident in its subscription model for Microsoft Office. Long-term updates to Windows 10 is entirely possible and feasible. To the point that even if Windows 11 comes out, it could be an upgrade to Windows 10, much like what El Capitan is to Yosemite in the OS X platform.

But whether the service-oriented and subscription model works out for a company that has long been earning profits through standalone licensing, it remains to be seen.

Windows is different from Mac that it has to cater to all sorts of application usage from lowest end basic word processing to top end enterprise server on almost limitless range of hardware, whereas Apple has restrict Mac to within its own selected hardware on their product lines and applications. Its much easier to control within a set of hardware and needs than in an open environment. Apple can afford to deliver continual system firmware updates for free since they are only intended for their own products with so extensive hardware integration where they restrict you to almost impossible hardware upgrades. This implys they are asking you to buy a brand new whole product again if any of the internal hardware starts failing. They are mainly deriving their profit from hardware product sales. Whereas on Windows, they are much more open and almost any hardware and drivers will easily work on it. Most of the time, when any of your hardware starts failing, you simply just do a single hardware upgrade and your Windows system will be back in operation. So i don't think such service oriented operation, one time fee bao ka liao Windows payment model will work for Microsoft on the long run. It will be good for end consumers like us, but bad on their revenue as well as R&D. Rather they follow Apple by breaking up free OS updates into different OS revisions, than having just one OS once and for all. At least there is a break for their team to review and refine.
 
Last edited:
Important Forum Advisory Note
This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts. Moderators are not employees or representatives of HWZ Forums. Forum members and moderators are responsible for their own posts. Please refer to our Community Guidelines and Standards and Terms and Conditions for more information.
Top