High position or high paid position with no "Manager" title.

[Joe Maya]

Quantitative analyst
Software Engineer
Cybersecurity Specialist
Trader
Partner ( NOT HR BUSINESS PARTNER )
Principal Consultant
Shipbroker
Stockbroker
EDMWer

 

[RandomPancake]

Last one on the list

 

[radish]

being a specialized professional is better than a manager, generally speaking.

u will have higher value and mobility, again, generally speaking.

 

[MungoDungo]

Empty "Manager" title is useless, but many ego sinkies want it

 

[Spike]

All depends on how long you can last in the position..

 

[erwinrommel]

My colleague, who was a senior engineer, got "re-designated" to some admin role... become senior assistant director. Pay is still the same.

 

[carey]

Depends on company bah

In local banks, they usually have job titles plus corporate rank

Title may include manager but if low corporate rank, pay is quite jialat

 

[buttbERry]

high paid better ba

 

[coolhead]

Quantitative analyst
Software Engineer
Cybersecurity Specialist
Trader
Partner ( NOT HR BUSINESS PARTNER )
Principal Consultant
Shipbroker
Stockbroker
EDMWer

HR BP earn 150-200k annually is not high?

 

[coolhead]

My colleague, who was a senior engineer, got "re-designated" to some admin role... become senior assistant director. Pay is still the same.

That's quite SAD

 

[TUV2008]

Let me give you two titles with high pay and no manager title:

Member of Parliament: $200,000 per annum

Mayor: $660,000 per annum

Position open for applications this coming election

 

[nyxator]

in Intel, principal engineer is equivalent to director but in other semicon, principal engineer is just above senior engineer


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[erwinrommel]

That's quite SAD

That's why when we see assistant managers, managers, senior managers and assistant directors in those HR/admin/finance at my place... we also bo chap.

 

[hammerhammer]

Prime minister higher

 

[Hyruga]

No 'manager' in your title better actually because you would have to manage this person that person even if they are from another department.

 

[Hyruga]

That's quite SAD

Not sad if all he wants is just the money and wants less responsibilities.

 

[teaspoons]

I rather high pay, else toilet cleaner can just be called sanitation maintenance manager…..construction workers directing traffic by just waving their hands can also be called flow control specialist with the foreman being called onsite specialist manager…

 

[erwinrommel]

in Intel, principal engineer is equivalent to director but in other semicon, principal engineer is just above senior engineer


Read HWZ Forum Rules!

Yup. Same here.

A principal engineer at my workplace.. if he chose the management path, will be director of engineering of a module/division. Not a "director" of some admin job.

The next level should be fellow... They are literally consultant/experts.

 

[Hello_Kitty]

singer like taylor swift high pay but no manager title

 

[coolhead]

Not sad if all he wants is just the money and wants less responsibilities.

It is sad. SAD is short for Senior Assistant Director