Hokkaido can go R rated one meh?![]()


I will be going spending one day to and fro from Sapporo to Otaru.
Since it's my first trip to Hokkaido, i have also book one day tour to go Kamiyubetsu Tulip Park and Takinoue Moss Pink Park. Saves me the trouble to spend time on traveling to get to that place. Is it a good idea?
Will be planing to go to Farm Tamita to try on the lavender ice-cream, and hopefully there are some flowers to see when i'm there (end of May). And also the cheese factory.
Will be spending one day at Hakodate also, and go up to the mountain to see the scenery.
Am still planning whether can i spend one day to visit the Lake Toya, Mt Uzusan, Bear Ranch and Hell Valley. Will it be possible? Are they very far apart from each other?
By the way is there any website which i can found out how long does it takes to get from one station to the other? i.e how long it takes to travel from Toya to Noboribetsu, Farm Tomita to Tomamu etc.
Just like what cheefarn said about distance, both Kamiyubetsu and Hakodate are quite far from Sapporo....
But as I'm heading to Kamiyubetsu myself in a month's time, I understand that the day tour is probably the Bus Tour that you get on really early in the morning (before 8am)... gets you to both attraction in the afternoon, and drops you back in Sapporo at night (after 8am) You will probably spend more than 10 hours in the bus.... but it's probably worth it.
But the problem with this setup is... you're spending over 10 hrs on the bus ya!Yes the tulips and Pink moss are magical to look at, but IMHO, spending 10 hrs on the bus to n fro just to visit these 2 places doesnt sound logical to me.
Also, there are quite a lot of other attractions to see in Mobetsu area... Eg... Lake Saroma, Okotosk Sea Ice museum, morning fish market etc... That bus certainly won't stop by these places en route would it?
As for Hakodate, it's actually a beautiful place to visit, and more than just a day trip. Do try to stay for at least a night or two. Even more "historical" in terms of some of the churches in the motomachi area. Personally, Hakodate is a great Winter City to go to... and I think I'll go back there in December
Hakodate is a big city that warrants at least 2 nights to explore. HMM bro, you're going on a free n easy tour of Hokkaido... so make sure it is free n EASY for you laYour iternery makes it looks like you're joining some clueless packaged tours from our local retail tour agencies
p.s. Otaru is a great day trip, short train ride, nice place to walk around... not worth staying over night; but just like Hakodate, it's probably a lot more beautiful in Winter, with snow everywhere, it's actually pretty magical.
I see your point. But I'm staying overnight in Otaru for my upcoming trip in less than 3 weeks timeFor me, its not wise to take a drive back to Sapporo in the evening as I've got a 4 yr old kid in tow. She needs to sleep early.
Will be staying in Dormy Inn@ Otaru, directly opposite Otaru JR station and near 2 morning fish markets... so plenty of activites and attractions for young n old
But I'm staying overnight in Otaru for my upcoming trip in less than 3 weeks timeFor me, its not wise to take a drive back to Sapporo in the evening as I've got a 4 yr old kid in tow. She needs to sleep early.

Thanks cheefarn for the comments. Will look into my itenary again
by the way, just a question. If i were to take JR train from Sapporo to Furano, i know i will need to transfer to another JR line, which is at JR Takikiwa Station.
Is the transfer complicated? Is the railway from Takikiwa to Furano quite far from the railway which arrive from Sapporo?
How is the transfer like at JR Station?
thanks kangtan
btw at hokkaido, do they have hi-card where by I'm able to use 3G?
thanks kangtan
btw at hokkaido, do they have hi-card where by I'm able to use 3G?
I know the drill. End of May, I am travelling with a 9, 7 & 5 year old and our 10 month old baby.... so I do intend to end each day early with a good soak in the onsen (where available)... ... it's also an easy way to make sure each kid has their bath
The last time we were at Otaru (Dec 2011), we stayed overnight too, before the long drive down to Hakodate![]()
I intend to go to Hokkaido this year end with 3 kids , 10, 8 & 3. do you mind sharing the hotels you stay for your trip. i also intend to end each day in the onsen, will also like to know how did you book your hotel. thru a tour or website as most japan hotels does not have connecting rooms.
Thanks a lot.
Hi there.
For this Spring/Summer trip, we are staying at Mecure Sapporo (quad/family room), Dormy Inn Asahikawa (Quad Room), Choyotei Sounkyo (Western/Jap Room) and Forest View in Furano (which is about half a house). We share beds (usually put 3 kids in a queen or pushing 2 twins together)
But if you're headed at the end of the year (I am assuming a Winter holiday), you might not want to drag your family on such a long journey as driving in the snow is quite slow and tedious. Probably to Asahikawa and Furano at most. In 2011, We spent 2 full days driving from Otaru to Hakodate*, and then Hakodate to Hirafu/Nieseko, as the distance is fairly long, and winter roads can become scary above 60-70kmh (although once you get the hang of it, you could probably push 80-90)
Personally I am already starting to plan my Winter Vacation (in Hokkaido again. Yes we are boring, and like Hokkaido a lot) So for that trip, as it's meant to be a ski vacation, we are likely to head only to 1 place: Hilton Niseko Village. It has everything we want, including the "modern" Australian-influenced town of Hirafu (lots of restaurants there) and we are rather familiar with the surroundings and transportation network. It also has the best ski-in ski-out valet and easy access to rentals, buses, chairlifts, gondolas.... and the buses from Chitose are frequent enough
Hope this helps!
*p.s. For our stay at Hakodate, because the hotel we stayed at (Hotel Chocolat) only had twin rooms, we booked side by side rooms and put our older kids there for the night...that's the only way to do it without adjoining rooms.
I am planning to stay in Hilton Niseko too but wondering how to keep the kids entertain there.
Thanks.
BTW, the Sapporo, Otaru, Hakodate, Niseko was almost identical to my trip in 2011.
It's all magical in Winter in those places, and you're doing the right thing to start down south and end up North!
As for entertainment, Buffet Breakfast at Melt, followed by All day skiing, ending with a good soak in the onsen, and then buffet Dinner at Yotei is enough for my older ones to feel tired enough to sleep even at 9pm (because in Dec, the sun sets at 4)
As for the 3 year old, sign the kid up for the kids ski class and they'll take care of it all for you. Of course the older ones can sign up too
If you're there in the 3rd week of Dec, we might meet![]()