home karaoke

[illumnae]

Can a mixer be connected to popsicle and an avr?

 

[illumnae]

Using HT speakers for karaoke is also a big no no.

Isn't there an in between option? Like if 90% usage is for HT use, but once in awhile friends come over to karaoke, surely it's not worth it to set up a dedicated karaoke set up separate from the HT system?

 

[petetherock]

Isn't there an in between option? Like if 90% usage is for HT use, but once in awhile friends come over to karaoke, surely it's not worth it to set up a dedicated karaoke set up separate from the HT system?

It's your call what you do with the speakers, but the distortions induced by amateur singing is not good for HT speakers. Especially if you aren't careful with the mike volume..
YMMV....

 

[tohchr]

Just gotten mine, bought a 3tb one.
Makes singing so much enjoying than using pc free karaoke software..

How to manually add mtv ar? There are a small amount of songs I can't find.

Then then most songs are already uploaded right? How to do the manual updates of songs?

Can I check which model u choose? There's a model with Android and another one without Android. I been to AC Ryan shop they had a karaoke system looks similar. Is this the same? It's so much cheaper to get from taobao cos AC Ryan selling at 1100+

Thanks in advanced!

 

[jamminjames]

How do I make my own karaoke at home?

 

[jamminjames]

Can I check which model u choose? There's a model with Android and another one without Android. I been to AC Ryan shop they had a karaoke system looks similar. Is this the same? It's so much cheaper to get from taobao cos AC Ryan selling at 1100+

Thanks in advanced!

You read this - Party Karaoke MCP-75 Suono Soundstream?

 

[tohchr]

You read this - Party Karaoke MCP-75 Suono Soundstream?

Ok. I go Google. Thanks

 

[kacok1]

get a mixer ( e.g. yamaha, etc cost abt $300) with usb connect to ur pc.
mixer has 3 mic jacks and abt 20 plus sound effects including reverb and echo, essential for karaoke.
Just connect ur speakers to the mixer and look at all internet karaoke tracks on ur monitor, and voila, complete home karaoke set , sing to eternity.
No need monthly sub.
enjoy

will using mixer+ pc with sound card such as creative titanium HD give a better sound quality compared to using karaoke box?
im not sure if karaoke box have a better dac.


im planning on karaoke setup but reluctant to get a karaoke box since i have a spare PC and an existing avr. Hence its cheaper to get a mixer compared to getting a karaoke box+ karaoke mixer with amp. The question is will they sound better with PC as source assuming all other things being equal? or will thr be more noise, delay n feedback with PC?

any suggestion for karaoke software? i know we can use utube,

 

[wwenze]

will using mixer+ pc with sound card such as creative titanium HD give a better sound quality compared to using karaoke box?
im not sure if karaoke box have a better dac.


im planning on karaoke setup but reluctant to get a karaoke box since i have a spare PC and an existing avr. Hence its cheaper to get a mixer compared to getting a karaoke box+ karaoke mixer with amp. The question is will they sound better with PC as source assuming all other things being equal? or will thr be more noise, delay n feedback with PC?

any suggestion for karaoke software? i know we can use utube,

DAC is probably the least of consideration if you know the quality of sound those cheap mikes produce.
I know someone who has a AT2020 for recording and karaoke. Because nobody said you can't.

You need the karaoke mixer (or rather, mic preamp cum mixer) because PC causes a noticeable delay as it routes from input to output. Also because you need something to control the volume, amplify the mic, and provide phantom power if you're using a condenser mic like the abovementioned AT2020.

The hard part about karaoke is really the content/software. For obvious copyright reasons, the content itself costs money which is the main cost of those karaoke boxes.

 

[kacok1]

DAC is probably the least of consideration if you know the quality of sound those cheap mikes produce.
I know someone who has a AT2020 for recording and karaoke. Because nobody said you can't.

You need the karaoke mixer (or rather, mic preamp cum mixer) because PC causes a noticeable delay as it routes from input to output. Also because you need something to control the volume, amplify the mic, and provide phantom power if you're using a condenser mic like the abovementioned AT2020.

The hard part about karaoke is really the content/software. For obvious copyright reasons, the content itself costs money which is the main cost of those karaoke boxes.

Thx for the input. i tried pluging sm 58 directly into my PC soundcard n it has delay of maybe 1/2 a second. Got it. i ll need a mixer to get no delay.
the next logical step is choosing between using karaoke mixer or pro mixer as preamp. most karaoke mixer is made in china brand, the branded 1 cost over 500 hence i think of getting pro mixer which cost between 200-400. somehow i think it ll give me better performance. am i right? anyone have any experience comparing those?
my plan is to get pro mixer which is either YAMAHA MG 10 XU or Mackie ProDX4. i can use the high pass filter & compressor to reduce unwanted sound. mackie is more expensive but has good effect and easy to use EQ but it doest have gain setting, it utilize auto gain something2 which complicate thing.

i ll be using sm58 and if its needed ll get behringer ultra gain mc2200 with condenser mic.

 

[mypillowtalks]

I used to use a karaoke mixing amplifier (not bought by me), and about 10 years ago i started using "pro" mixer (analog, not digital).

1. Usual karaoke mixing amplifiers have built in amplifer to drive passive speakers.

2. Mixer dont usually comes with amplifier(not to be confused w preamp for mic) to drive passive speakers .

There are also products called "Powered mixer", which is a mixer with built in amplifiers to drive passive speakers.

Thus, if the intention to use a passive speaker, a powered mixer can be considered.

Or, if the intention is to use passive speaker, you may consider getting an amplifier that matches the passive speaker; and connect the signal from the mixer into that amplifier.

3. Key control - I recall karaoke mixing amplifiers comes with the key control to change the pitch of the song.

Mixers dont usually comes with key control

4. Mixers comes gain knob (to control the preamp) for most of the channels.

However not all mixer channels may come with a compressor. You may wish to add in external gate/compressor if the mixer comes with channel inserts

From my memory i dunthink karaoke mixing amplifiers comes with gain knob, some may come w it. Depending on model. Some comes with compressor i think

5. Effects

Most Mixer comes with effects processors built in. Some mixers do not come with effect processors.

Usually there are quite a few effects such as reverb or hall or chorus, some comes with echo

I believe karaoke mixing amplifiers comes with echo knob

6. Feedback

Use of microphone has the potential of causing feedback.

Some mixer comes with antifeedback built in. Some karaoke mixing amplifier comes w antifeedback built in too.

Good mic handling, high pass filter, good signal gain structure, placement of speaker can help to reduce feedback.

A multi channel EQ can help too, with proper use

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The above are jus my general opinions n observations, different brand n model have different features

There are also digital mixers that comes with more features

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[stanlee2008]

DAC is probably the least of consideration if you know the quality of sound those cheap mikes produce.
I know someone who has a AT2020 for recording and karaoke. Because nobody said you can't.

You need the karaoke mixer (or rather, mic preamp cum mixer) because PC causes a noticeable delay as it routes from input to output. Also because you need something to control the volume, amplify the mic, and provide phantom power if you're using a condenser mic like the abovementioned AT2020.

The hard part about karaoke is really the content/software. For obvious copyright reasons, the content itself costs money which is the main cost of those karaoke boxes.

yamaha mxu 10 for e.g. has every thing u mentioned, including phantom power for your condenser mic if u prefer. std mic also can jack in and no lag.
sound of course is depending on ur speakers a n mic quality.
What karaoke software u need ? No end to ready made karaoke videos in the internet foc duh

 

[stanlee2008]

sorry, refer to wrong quote in prev reply.
apologies.

 

[kacok1]

I used to use a karaoke mixing amplifier (not bought by me), and about 10 years ago i started using "pro" mixer (analog, not digital).

Thanks for the replay, i tot the thread is dead
i did my homework, i understand wht u said.
how do u like the diff? do they sound clearer ? or give more feedback?

 

[kacok1]

Yes, yamaha is good.
i dont know yet, probably youtube frst then ll find other sources.

yamaha mxu 10 for e.g. has every thing u mentioned, including phantom power for your condenser mic if u prefer. std mic also can jack in and no lag.
sound of course is depending on ur speakers a n mic quality.
What karaoke software u need ? No end to ready made karaoke videos in the internet foc duh

 

[Pup1982]

Anyone tried using Sonos products for this?

If I connect AUX for input into the TV, can I just use Sonos speakers for output(eg. I have set up Sonos Beam connected to my TV via HDMI ARC)?

 

[benedium]

U would think since karaoke is so popular that they would have made some good easy to use products and apps by now. But look at this thread.

 

[kacok1]

U would think since karaoke is so popular that they would have made some good easy to use products and apps by now. But look at this thread.

haha.. i believe thr ar plenty of those but it goes to general consumers. here we are in a more niche market. the problems is we want more than "ITS WORKING"

 

[mypillowtalks]

Thanks for the replay, i tot the thread is dead
i did my homework, i understand wht u said.
how do u like the diff? do they sound clearer ? or give more feedback?

It has been some time, but I do recall there was quite a bit of difference.


With a good microphone (ur SM58 is a good mic), decent gain structure, some EQ on the channel, high pass filter, the vocals can be quite clear and loud.

Every channel has an "effect send" knob, so I can vary how much "echo" each singer gets

My mixer has a compressor knob for each of the 8 XLR inputs, some of the mixers only offer compressor on some of the input channels.

My own preference is about 2.5:1 or 3:1 compression ratio for the vocals, you may trial and error from there and see what you like.

Some years ago I bought an external compressor/limiter for 2 of my microphone channels, i use the "limiter" to protect my speaker against people who shout or talk very loud.

I would say using a mixer allows more flexibility on the signal processing, you can customise more details to your liking. There is also more control over the signal chain. The LED light also helps to see if the signal is clipping.

However, the disadvantage is that the system may not be user friendly to everyone.
My Mixer is a bit old now, the main output channel faders have worn out, some crackling sound, sometimes no sound. The buttons gets stuck sometimes too.

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Yes sometimes I get a lot of feedback, depending on where my speaker and microphone is.

Im not very good at eliminating feedback as I cannot "identify" the feedback frequency accurately. I need some time to identify and catch the frequency and attenuate it on the EQ.

What I do will be to ask singers to hold the microphone near to their mouth to get as much gain as possible.

If I get feedback during a singing, I will lower the gain on that microphone channel, then bring up the fader a bit.

You can go to youtube and search on "ringing out sound system" or "PA system Feedback" or something along that line, there are videos showing how to EQ your sound system to eliminate feedback from microphone.

I do not have formal training in professional audio, I learnt from buying equipment, trial and error, youtube videos, library books, follow my friend who does church sound.

I do have some background in electrical engineering, all the concepts are applications of electrical and electronics engineering

 

[shawnbright]

It has been some time, but I do recall there was quite a bit of difference.


With a good microphone (ur SM58 is a good mic), decent gain structure, some EQ on the channel, high pass filter, the vocals can be quite clear and loud.

Every channel has an "effect send" knob, so I can vary how much "echo" each singer gets

My mixer has a compressor knob for each of the 8 XLR inputs, some of the mixers only offer compressor on some of the input channels.

My own preference is about 2.5:1 or 3:1 compression ratio for the vocals, you may trial and error from there and see what you like.

Some years ago I bought an external compressor/limiter for 2 of my microphone channels, i use the "limiter" to protect my speaker against people who shout or talk very loud.

I would say using a mixer allows more flexibility on the signal processing, you can customise more details to your liking. There is also more control over the signal chain. The LED light also helps to see if the signal is clipping.

However, the disadvantage is that the system may not be user friendly to everyone.
My Mixer is a bit old now, the main output channel faders have worn out, some crackling sound, sometimes no sound. The buttons gets stuck sometimes too.

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Yes sometimes I get a lot of feedback, depending on where my speaker and microphone is.

Im not very good at eliminating feedback as I cannot "identify" the feedback frequency accurately. I need some time to identify and catch the frequency and attenuate it on the EQ.

What I do will be to ask singers to hold the microphone near to their mouth to get as much gain as possible.

If I get feedback during a singing, I will lower the gain on that microphone channel, then bring up the fader a bit.

You can go to youtube and search on "ringing out sound system" or "PA system Feedback" or something along that line, there are videos showing how to EQ your sound system to eliminate feedback from microphone.

I do not have formal training in professional audio, I learnt from buying equipment, trial and error, youtube videos, library books, follow my friend who does church sound.

I do have some background in electrical engineering, all the concepts are applications of electrical and electronics engineering

Great feedback, thank you bro!