Hong Kong Airlines HX115 overhead compartment catches fire suspected from powerbank

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In all these cases, no one bothered to find out from the owner of the powerbank/s

• What is the brand
• What is the capacity
• What country made the powerbank

So you see?
They are hopeless investigators / air transport governing bodies.
All good for nothing.

Chances are :
Brand : 3rd party back lane chap muck brand
Capacity : > 20,000 mAh
Do you know Xiaomi sells one 50,000 mAh powerbank?

Country : China

There are powerbanks that allow users to change the internal batteries.
I know.
My friend owns such and proudly announce can change battery.

Chances are the ones that caught fire on planes
are those where owners change the internal batteries - BUT the wrong type.
Being greedy they opt for much higher capacity than original.

Asking for trouble.
 

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There are some fire retardant pouches designed to contain lithium polymer batteries. Saw them listed in Amazon. If FAA or ICAO can certify such pouches as safe for carrying power banks on airplanes, I will gladly carry my powers banks in these pouches.
They prevent open flames, but do nothing with regards to the venting of highly toxic gases like hydrogen fluoride. I have a couple for charging my RC packs in. Made of PVC backed by glass fiber.
 

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They prevent open flames, but do nothing with regards to the venting of highly toxic gases like hydrogen fluoride. I have a couple for charging my RC packs in. Made of PVC backed by glass fiber.
Thats what I thought of as well. The toxic gases have to go somewhere. Looks like theres really no safe way to bring power banks on airplanes.
 

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that's it. no more powerbanks in all airlines

either use seat usb socket or power socket or you raw dog

good luck to those taking budget airlines, some dun have usb or sockets for you :s13:
 

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In all these cases, no one bothered to find out from the owner of the powerbank/s

• What is the brand
• What is the capacity
• What country made the powerbank

So you see?
They are hopeless investigators / air transport governing bodies.
All good for nothing.

Chances are :
Brand : 3rd party back lane chap muck brand
Capacity : > 20,000 mAh
Do you know Xiaomi sells one 50,000 mAh powerbank?

Country : China

There are powerbanks that allow users to change the internal batteries.
I know.
My friend owns such and proudly announce can change battery.

Chances are the ones that caught fire on planes
are those where owners change the internal batteries - BUT the wrong type.
Being greedy they opt for much higher capacity than original.

Asking for trouble.
I'm using such power banks for years. No such problems for me as I only buy original batteries separately. Don't mind paying a bit more.

And the reason I used such power banks is because I am assured of the batteries I am using. You just buy any power banks out there, branded or non branded, you don't even know what battery they use.

The problem is power banks received as door gifts or given out free are using degraded or old batteries. Some even from old laptop batteries. The tiongs just strip off the battery label, put on another label and into the power bank. So all the e-waste exported to West Taiwan are repackaged and returned back to other countries in the form of such power banks and batteries. That's for the power banks using 18650 batteries.

The next is the lithium battery used in car cameras, laptops, hp, power banks and wireless airbuds. These are concealed inside their enclosures and you can't see the battery bloating up inside, until the case deforms or cracks. I had replaced countless of such batteries in my appliances.
 

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Will this bring back swappable smartphone batteries
 

tatsit

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I hope got proper investigation and report rather than just ban.
 

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The PB was charging inside the bag? Or it just exploded on itself at idle state?
 

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There are some fire retardant pouches designed to contain lithium polymer batteries. Saw them listed in Amazon. If FAA or ICAO can certify such pouches as safe for carrying power banks on airplanes, I will gladly carry my powers banks in these pouches.
There test reviews of the lithium battery pouches on youtube. Some did not work well got burnt and let the flame came out. I think even the better one also only prevented flame from coming out but the pouches outer temperature will be very high and lots of smoke.
 

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Will this bring back swappable smartphone batteries
Even worst. Last time a lot of fake nokia samsung batteries. Now needs skill and tools to change phone battery, shop charge labour fee. Most people will choose to change new phone instead of change battery.
 
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