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[Vritsme]

Where to go to for help if my question on feedback section are not replied?

 

[harbinger255]

Gxgx for 3 more points on posting feedback in wrong section!

 

[tankgunner]

TS about to earn another 3 more points liao.

 

[blackestvoid]

in before bend

 

[Vritsme]

Gxgx for 3 more points on posting feedback in wrong section!

Shuuupdup!!!

 

[Ottoke]

Where to go to for help if my question on feedback section are not replied?

Like... here?

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[Ottoke]

Another moderator has moved your feedback thread from EDMW to here.

I know you edited your original post but can you please post your infraction enquiry next time at the feedback forum?

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[Vritsme]

Another moderator has moved your feedback thread from EDMW to here.

I know you edited your original post but can you please post your infraction enquiry next time at the feedback forum?

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Even post in feedback forum admin won't bother. Why??? Must be fair to edmwers. If we ask queztions must reply us. I lost trust in admin.... The avatar looks hostile and stulid and annoying.

 

[fox1]

Even post in feedback forum admin won't bother. Why??? Must be fair to edmwers. If we ask queztions must reply us. I lost trust in admin.... The avatar looks hostile and stulid and annoying.

Admin chooses who to reply and when to reply.
Bobian.

But for you, it should be ok. Just create another clone if banned.

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[Vritsme]

sagu laments the edmw sub-forum is attracting such self-entitled members like Virtsme who has just registered 6 months ago and demanding admin and mods be at their disposal to answer their questions and still can ridicule and pass insults at their avatars when admin and mods don't comply to their wishes



#saguwisdom

Shuddup la hypocritical trabermaking christian. You sure is a christian who hatttes peace that is how you come here finnd faultttt. God is watching you. Typical of blardy evil scumm's lacckey to have ill character laccckey

 

[Ottoke]

Shuddup la hypocritical troublemaking christian. You sure is a christian who hates peace that is how you come here find fault. God is watching you. Typical of blooody evil scum's lackey to have ill character lackey

...and this is how you will get another 3 points.

 

[Vritsme]

...and this is how you will get another 3 points.

Only good in giving infraction.

 

[Ottoke]

Only good in giving infraction.

Well not me, I am just giving advice

 

[Vritsme]

...and this is how you will get another 3 points.

Is this a threeat?????

Excelleent in buullyying.

 

[Ottoke]

Is this a threeat?????

Excelleent in buullyying.

How is this a threat? How is this bullying? Or perhaps to you my advice came to you the wrong way? I have never issued you a single warning nor infraction at all.

I am and was never hostile to you. Get it clear. I helped you to be clear of the basic rules when you got your 1st infraction.

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[Dr.Vijay]

Do you have a problem to highlight?

I did read of your post lamenting of the feedback forum.

Here's the simple answer: Some things can be easily resolved, while others needs time to investigate. All of the mods and admins are volunteers and as such, all of us have other primary duties.

If you doubt actions are taken, then you've to dig back deeper in time - not just look at the first page of threads here. And even then, you don't have access to the full picture such as the reported issues, numerous email inputs, PMs, legal letters and much more. As such, no end-user can fully comprehend what the admins have to trawl through before we take necessary actions that we deem is right.

And before munching all that down - please remember that the person complaining has to be open about understanding their issues too. This isn't a one-way street where one complains and gets his/her way. The person can be in the wrong too. If one can't accept that, then he/she will always have a grudge on whatever the moderation/admin team does. #myopic

I'll leave you with one last piece of information... in the early years of the forum, like a decade ago or earlier, we used to manually track all warnings and bans. The thread maintaining this information got so insanely large year after year, nobody cares who's warned, who's infracted and who's banned and why. It's an unbearably large list of offenses. It was my attempt at being transparent to the community, but it's not sustainable in any meaningful manner when the list is that large.

no one cares about your advice

if no one cares about your advice but you insist on giving = you are damn extra

 

[fox1]

yes.. problem is
**snipped for brevity**

I think you might be on to something.
The clone detection and removal enforcement mechanisms are not really effective.

 

[Perisher]

yes.. problem is

infractions are given ASAP... but responses to feedback are nonexistent

fact, warnings/infractions are only given asap if it's a clear cut case, for example, aiming vulgarities at someone directly or advertising.

Response to feedback is a few days to 1-2 week, not non-existent, for majority of the cases. Only complicated cases takes longer.

Some will be missed, do highlight again. And some cases, no matter the response, the one giving the feedback won't be happy so it's up to admin to make final decision. One can't go on endlessly no matter what feedback it is.

got time to infract but no time to investigate? even if that is really the case, infraction shows you have already decided the end game and anything else is just a charade to work towards that

Nope, infraction only shows it's that particular mod that has decided it, not all mods+admin might agree. If you have dispute with that decision, then bring it up. Other Mods and admin might step in if the case is less straightforward.

In case you do not know, mods have been speak to/removed for giving wrong warnings/infractions.
Warnings and infractions have been reversed before. But by and large, most stays, that's the point of having a mod/admin, to give mostly the right decision or decisions that follows the tnc anyway.

If most of these warnings/infractions are reversed, then that mod/admin won't even be mod/admin.

maybe a good start will be having transparency... too oftens mods juz keep infracting and banning with no accountability... raising feedback is next to useless cause either no response or u get more infraction.. more questions u raise, the more infractions you get... den you get banned.. all this before even getting a proper response... see where im going here? its possible for a mod to silence a complaint by just banning. the fact that the first page is full of no response shows that they r not held accountable for anything

I personally agree that more infractions happen too often in feedback forum. But also look at the attitude shown when bringing up a feedback, it's often very hostile, making needless accusation before any response is even being made, thereby resulting in more warnings/infractions before we even look into the issue.

2 way street. You made a feedback, wait for a reply, if no reply for a week, probe again. There should be a response by then. Hurling abuse or demanding admins/mods response while making needless remarks and accusations of admin/mods not doing anything about your feedback is why most can't get a response before being ban.

Look at most of the ones who got ban before getting any reply, raise any examples you see. Most if not all of them, just continue making rants day after day when mods/admin has not reply yet. A little patience goes a long way.

Also to say no response, I don't think so. A first page full of no response only shows that, first page cases are latest cases, meanings they are still being look into. It would be worrying only if more pages goes into no response mode. Fresh cases taking time is understandable. And if your case happens to go past first page, probe again and more often than not, it will surely have a response.

We try to clear it on first come first serve but not all cases are easy to reply to. Especially for threads with many many pages of posting to look into.
I personally looked into 50-100 pages of post to clear complaints/report before. How do you expect us to reply within 1-2 day?

the fact that most of the community thinks that the feedback forum is a sham and are skeptical is telling.. and its not because we are being difficult... people think that cause that is how the complaints mechanism is functioning... you cant expect ppl to think that everything is well and sing kumbaya together while having a broken system

You do realise, most who uses the feedback forum are usually the ones who have problems and are already not happy about mods/admin's decision right?
So if most of those cases are not reversed, why would most members who has used it be happy about the mods/admins to begin with?

You are expecting a group of people that complaints in the feedback forum about the decisions of mods/admins and expecting them to feel good about the feedback forum after not getting what they want, mostly. That sure won't look good.

my2cent.

 

[Perisher]

I think you might be on to something.
The clone detection and removal enforcement mechanisms are not really effective.

That, I agree.

 

[crimsontactics]

A suggestion to improve the infraction system.

If an infraction is being reversed by Admin, I think it's only fair for the Mod who gave that infraction to be identified and made known to the public.

This way, there is more transparency in the system. Now the system is designed in such a way that it discourage Mods to be careful as there is practically no repercussion if they infract wrongly.

If the infraction is not reversed, then it's understandable if the Mod remain annoynomous.

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