InstaReM's AMAZE MasterCard

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Not trying to be overly academic over FX rates. Today instarem did better than YouTrip. Oh

minutes apart transaction


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It is Sunday. No markets are moving today. Even if the the transactions were not done close to each other you should get the same result all day and from yesterday till today too. My understanding for these is they fix the rate for 48 hours over a weekend and 24 hours during a weekday so time between transaction for amaze and youtrip is not relevant then either … the only cards of this type that have fx moving in real time is revolut and maybe wise yeah? And even then it is just happening during the times the fx markets are open.

also you hilariously you are wrong with todays vnd amaze rates being better than utrip … you have confused yourself with rounding on such a small amounts and missed fact that if utrips rate was really 16,660 your price on 41k vnd should have been 2.46 (easily verifiable).

youtrip has actually used a rate of 0.000594 directly from mc online calculator which when rounded up to nearest cent to gives you the $2.44 sgd. but because they are idiots and have some how screwed up their vnd terms number on gui you have a incorect display of 16,660. 0.0000594 when inversed correctly to sgd terms is actually 16,835 which is actually what they are actually working with in the back end and quite a bit better rate than the 16,785.7143 amaze hit you for and if you had done a purchase of significant amount it would have been apparent because with bigger numbers not being so volatile to rounding and the numbers would have stayed true.

note on mc online calculator 41k vnd = 2.44 but actually 4,100,000 = 243.54 so you been tricked by the differences rounding of small numbers.. 2.44 / 41,000 = 0.00005951 but 2.4354 / 41k = 0.0000594 which maps to the mc calculator exactly but is rounded to whole cent against you. There seems to be a bug on their gui becauseIf they had really used 16,660 they are displaying as their rate 41k vnd would have cost you 2.46 rather than 2.44 sgd right? Ie 41,000 divide 16,660 = 2.4609

so in conclusion 2 things are happening firstly, youtrips gui is displaying wrong rate compared to their observable underlying calc and youtrips real rate today was actually better than amazes today who are clearly slipping a little cut into their vnd offering versus the mc online calculator which itself is already 15-50 bps over spot when fixed back on Saturday morning around 3-4 am our time.

academic vigour is needed teehee! If you tell us what the exact nominal vnd amount is on the amaze transaction i can tell you what fishiness they are doing there :)
 
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Rong626

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Quite sian. Had to make few online overseas transactions but still linked to woman's as I don't have another mastercard
 

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I just did INR transaction on Amazon using Amaze and the exchange rate during weekday trading hours seems to be better. I got 56.2 while spot rate is 56.48 today.

We're notifying you that SGD 60.96 was debited from your card xx-xxxx- on 2022-06-06 02:25:29 GMT towards your transaction of INR 3426.00 at AMAZON.
 

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Maybe Rong wants to save on the 3.25% forex charge incurred directly.
For DBS cards, now you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Either take the 10x points or the ‘mythical’ forex savings ( with 1% cashback) 😅
 

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Maybe Rong wants to save on the 3.25% forex charge incurred directly.
For DBS cards, now you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Either take the 10x points or the ‘mythical’ forex savings ( with 1% cashback)
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at 2cpm, it’s ard 8 based on what i cal last time. if u redeem shopping vouchers with dbs points, it’s ard 3%. cant rem e details. use dbs straight if u r buying miles. else amaze n try applying another card


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Was planning to use Amaze + DBS / Citi for my Italy trip coming up this week, but clearly can't anymore. What alternatives would you guys suggest?

I also have YouTrip but there's no rebate for that, right?

Seems like Amaze card is dead now besides capping Citi with 1k spending.
 

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Was planning to use Amaze + DBS / Citi for my Italy trip coming up this week, but clearly can't anymore. What alternatives would you guys suggest?

I also have YouTrip but there's no rebate for that, right?

Seems like Amaze card is dead now besides capping Citi with 1k spending.
For miles: https://milelion.com/2022/06/03/after-the-nerf-my-new-instarem-amaze-card-strategy/

For cashback, can use Amaze with Maybank family and friends/citi cashback/hsbc premier etc to get 8%-5% for certain categories, limited to rebate cap . If not then citi cashback+ or scb unlimited for unlimited rebate but at a 1.6%/1.5%.
 

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if i understand it correctly, i can pair my HSBC mastercard with Amaze and i will be charged by Amaze in SGD? but what about the MCC? will amaze transaction post on my HSBC credit card as a top up?
 

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if i understand it correctly, i can pair my HSBC mastercard with Amaze and i will be charged by Amaze in SGD? but what about the MCC? will amaze transaction post on my HSBC credit card as a top up?
same mcc of merchant
 

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Was planning to use Amaze + DBS / Citi for my Italy trip coming up this week, but clearly can't anymore. What alternatives would you guys suggest?

I also have YouTrip but there's no rebate for that, right?

Seems like Amaze card is dead now besides capping Citi with 1k spending.
?? Why cannot pair with Citi Cashback Plus?
 

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Can anyone help me here? I am in Korea and I have both Amaze and Revolut physical cards. I tried pay at shops but Amaze card keep failing saying it decline due to security and risk policy. But Revolut just work well. Anyone knows why?
 

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check if the linked CC is activeated for overseas usage. Indirectly the bank could be declining. If not, purely Amaze issue. I've tried in US, UK, KR, AU. UK worked flawlessly, KR didn't worked, AU & US was hit and miss.
 
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