Issues with MKZ - CASE?

[SaitouSad]

Interesting, no harm filing together I guess. Nothing to lose even if police does nothing.

Sat. morning or early afternoon would be great too

On a side note, ordix - is that Kelly's and Mike's daughter's pic? LOL That's funny **** right there man

 

[izeman13]

Saturday morning What Time?
I don think i can have any recent bank transfer statement as it was all done thru internet banking more than 3 months ago.

I will be printing my email convo out with him statin that he received the transfer

Hi bro,

Yes please print all the transaction code which normally MIKELZ acknowledge I think should be fine. We are doing this even there is a slight chance of getting back our money but we are trying to have a fair and justice to what happen and We don't want this to happen again to other toy collector like us. Because if we didn't do try
anything I believed MIKELZ will do it all over again probably use other names or relatives to establish toy selling again and find another victim like us. It's better to do and try rather than keep silence and do nothing.

Thanks for all your cooperation.

 

[izeman13]

hi guys. so how the progress in making the claims?

i have ard $900 of money+items with him. and we had been dealing with him long before the acc thingy come up. i believed there is still a couple of items that we have deposited and yet to get the items. doing this thing purely by trust

is he confirmed bankrupt?

because if that is the case we will probably not be able to make any claim as stated in previous posts.

this really sucks when we had been dealing for almost 7 years!

Hi bro,

Please join us with gattack81 print all the email that include your deposit and transaction reference which we normally do via email and online bank transfer deposit which normally MIKELZ response and acknowledge the received of the payment. We don't know the assurance what ever he file the bankrupt and we also don't care if he really file bankcrupt. important is that we care about fair and justice and return all the money that he took from us. This is the important thing we must act even we all know there is a bit slight chance of getting our money back.

Thanks for your cooperation.

 

[MEGASILVER]

Hi bro,

Yes please print all the transaction code which normally MIKELZ acknowledge I think should be fine. We are doing this even there is a slight chance of getting back our money but we are trying to have a fair and justice to what happen and We don't want this to happen again to other toy collector like us. Because if we didn't do try
anything I believed MIKELZ will do it all over again probably use other names or relatives to establish toy selling again and find another victim like us. It's better to do and try rather than keep silence and do nothing.

Thanks for all your cooperation.

I will try to pop up - First have to find all the transaction statements. But I do not have any emails from MKZ - Everything was by phone, and all the messages are gone. Haiz...

 

[gattack81]

"mkz victims filing together."
"Cantonment Police Station", Saturday 2 July 2011, 10.30am meet up at Outram Park MRT Station exit G
Bank Transfer Record is a MUST

Participating (% remaining balance from total transferred):
1. gattack81 (30.03%)
2. izeman13
3. Strawhatpirate
4. goenitz33
5. Emolisher (100%)
6. psyko (100%)
7. cstoe83 (82.08%)

For all victim, please make sure to bring;
1. Transaction detail (include bank transfer and collected item only, pm me your email address if you need excel file sample)
2. Bank tarnsfer slip/evidence (same as what stated in transaction detail)
on saturday.
3. Copy of your IC

we will trying to declare amount that we have transfered, offsetting item we have collected, to get our remaining funds with mkz

 

[gattack81]

I will try to pop up - First have to find all the transaction statements. But I do not have any emails from MKZ - Everything was by phone, and all the messages are gone. Haiz...

most important is transfer record from bank...
get the total amount you have transfered
offseting total item you have collected

 

[izeman13]

jus happened to csi kelly's n their daughter fb acc... unable to contact them cos they r not in frenlist... mike email doesnt feel any sorry at all. pissed!

They are now hiding and waiting for us to take the action. If they really want to return the money to us they will be processing it properly even MIKELZ filed a bankcruptcy. It is not a proper way just deleting removing and hiding from the things you know that doing the wrong thing. So it means he is guilty scamming our money.

 

[MEGASILVER]

I presume no one has heard from IPTO yea?

 

[gattack81]

Participating ( remaining balance from total transferred ):
1. gattack81 (30.03%)
2. izeman13
3. Strawhatpirate
4. goenitz33
5. Emolisher (100%)
6. psyko (100%)
7. cstoe83 (82.08%)
8.

for those who wanna submit but cant make it on saturday, we will arrange a met up on friday night for the signature..
you can handover the all the necessary at the same time

1. Transaction list (transfer and collected item)
2. Bank transfer slip/record
3. copy of IC

 

[Ixnay]

Sianz man... I also kena... but the problem is 1 of my transaction was done last year, dunno still can retrieve the record from bank or not...

Haiz...

 

[gattack81]

just come back from DBS, not a good news for all of us...
there is no data/history that bank can provide in our case.

transfer reference number should be enough for police to check/investigate with the bank

so...still have to depend on our own record..
i still keep my big amount transfer reference number into EA-account, some even with print screen.... that will be my transfer evidence...

and also remember that i did sent him confirmation email each time after transfer, stating the reference number... i will attached as much as possible if i still can find it out

 

[cstoe83]

so it means we can't get our statement for past 2 years from the bank?

 

[gattack81]

statement you can get, is chargeable S$30 per month
but there is no third party account number indicated in account statement, transfer record yes, but no destination account

 

[cstoe83]

more than 1 year is really hard to trace the records

 

[Piranacon]

I presume no one has heard from IPTO yea?

Just got reply. Seems like another road block. I wished to participate in the police report. I am holding EA account but I pass the money in cash to them instead of bank transfer so I have nothing to prove

Dear Sir/Madam,

We refer to your email below.

2 Please note that by virtue of the Bankruptcy Act, we may only release details of the bankrupt case to related parties, which include the bankrupt himself and his creditors. Therefore, we are not in a position to release all the information you have requested.

3 You may conduct an insolvency search using our Internet Insolvency Search Service at our website: www.ipto.gov.sg for fee of $6.00 excluding GST excluding (payable by cash card or credit card) which provides the date of the Bankruptcy Application, the name of the Petitioning Creditor and the date of Bankruptcy Order.

Yours faithfully
Safiah Sapyan (Mdm)
for Official Assignee

 

[MEGASILVER]

Just got reply. Seems like another road block. I wished to participate in the police report. I am holding EA account but I pass the money in cash to them instead of bank transfer so I have nothing to prove

Dear Sir/Madam,

We refer to your email below.

2 Please note that by virtue of the Bankruptcy Act, we may only release details of the bankrupt case to related parties, which include the bankrupt himself and his creditors. Therefore, we are not in a position to release all the information you have requested.

3 You may conduct an insolvency search using our Internet Insolvency Search Service at our website: www.ipto.gov.sg for fee of $6.00 excluding GST excluding (payable by cash card or credit card) which provides the date of the Bankruptcy Application, the name of the Petitioning Creditor and the date of Bankruptcy Order.

Yours faithfully
Safiah Sapyan (Mdm)
for Official Assignee

All we need is an answer to whether he did declare bankruptcy... Typical answer...

 

[Piranacon]

All we need is an answer to whether he did declare bankruptcy... Typical answer...

Even if I spent the 6 bucks to search and prove that he is indeed bankrupt, I am still unsecured creditor. In IPTO eyes we are also not the official creditors. Think small claims tribunal is the only way out.

 

[ryooiken]

I oso just received reply from IPTO, same reply as Bro Piranacon :-(

I can't make it on saturday, so wat time you guys meeting up on Friday nite?

I still keep the sms i sent to mike confirming the transfer and amount.

Any Bros can advice on how to print out the SMS from a Sony Ericsson C902 phone?

 

[gattack81]

friday nite, maybe will arrange somewhere in central, say city hall/raffles mrt, any idea?
not need to print out, just list down all your transaction (transfer & collection) put the reference number on remarks column... if u need the sample excel file to list down, pm me your email add and i will send you

 

[MrRainDrops]

hey guys can i join in the report too i have 4 preorder recipts from mikelz will that help???