jogging and motivation thread

[Ender]

Might as well go private and ask for diagnostic angiogram and get done with.

Unlikely to progress to significant stenosis in 4 yrs or fatal mi in 10 yrs for totally clear arteries without significant risk factors.

If arterial plagues noted that do not result in critical stenosis requiring atenting, LDL needs to be well optimised and in rare cases where LDL is low, apo b can be used as a marker in such discordance.

Well this is not standard medical guidelines, btw. For those who can afford it, can consider.

In years to come, it is likely that lower ldls are going to be in the guidelines as at current levels still have significant silent heart diseases.

Is LDL the guide line to gauge an old unker like me in the mids 50 to decide if I should take it easy on the higher intensity speed session? 20 years ago when I was sedentary, my cholesterol was already high. The TC and LDL are above the reference. I have been running seriously for the past 15 years, if TC or the high borderline LDL was taken into consideration, might have to do taichi and qi gong right now.

 

[binbinpon]

why lao unker cannot run .... haha? moderate intensity high volume running decreases LDL. Higher intensity increases HDL. so it is better if you continue to run. It is a paradox that regular vigorous exercise reduces lifetime cardiovascular risk but at the same time can induce sudden death.

Anyway it is not as if you are doing > 100km/week, if i recall correctly.

having some form of knowledge on the degree of atherosclerosis maybe helpful. Pre-run aspirin can be considered.

I also lao unker gym rat who also runs.

Ultimately, increase in cardiorespiratory fitness after aerobic exercise training is positively associated with increased longevity.

 

[xllms]

1) running like 2.4km pace
2) fore foot
3) zoom fly flyknit and adizero SL
4) run twice a week 4-5km each run
5) fitness and weight loss
6) no injury

assuming you can go fast for your 2.4km and you don't go beyond 10km each run, straight off my mind for adidas you can go for takumi sen 8, 9 or adios 8. if you want a slower multi purpose trainer, perhaps adidas boston 12 or even the new supernova rise.
since you can handle zoomfly flyknit, you may want to consider vaporfly 2.
if you are willing to try other brands, you can consider saucony endorphin speed, puma deviate nitro 2, qiaodan飞影pb3.0.

 

[Ender]

why lao unker cannot run .... haha? moderate intensity high volume running decreases LDL. Higher intensity increases HDL. so it is better if you continue to run. It is a paradox that regular vigorous exercise reduces lifetime cardiovascular risk but at the same time can induce sudden death.

Anyway it is not as if you are doing > 100km/week, if i recall correctly.

having some form of knowledge on the degree of atherosclerosis maybe helpful. Pre-run aspirin can be considered.

I also lao unker gym rat who also runs.

Ultimately, increase in cardiorespiratory fitness after aerobic exercise training is positively associated with increased longevity.

How about high intensity and races, where you push threshold close to for 1hr for a 10k race? That was the intention of my OP. Should my aging heart exhibit anomalies or concern when under stress. My mind is thinking if ecg treadmill stress test should be the one.

Above 100km /weeks is when I was on the Pfitzinger's marathon program just last year. Endurance training shouldn't be a problem for aging as usually it's muscle fatigue that sets in before reaching your aerobic max out. And you get muscle or tendon injuries from overtraining before the heart show any stress. There are many seniors in endurance sports.

That's why more scare of 10k race than a full marathon. But 10k race more exciting.

 

[binbinpon]

How about high intensity and races, where you push threshold close to for 1hr for a 10k race? That was the intention of my OP. Should my aging heart exhibit anomalies or concern when under stress. My mind is thinking if ecg treadmill stress test should be the one.

Above 100km /weeks is when I was on the Pfitzinger's marathon program just last year. Endurance training shouldn't be a problem for aging as usually it's muscle fatigue that sets in before reaching your aerobic max out. And you get muscle or tendon injuries from overtraining before the heart show any stress. There are many seniors in endurance sports.

That's why more scare of 10k race than a full marathon. But 10k race more exciting.

Yes you are right. A threadmill stress test is good for pre-race/pre-strengthnous exercise screening and it detects exercise induced ischemia and arrythmias.

If ischemia is noted, most probably you will be sent for angiogram to delineate the degree of stenosis.

 

[milkiee]

can i check if the 强风 is a soft running shoe?
if not can anyone advise which series under 乔丹 is a soft high mileage shoe?

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[Loratadine10mg]

The more u run. The faster your knee cap will get spoilt

 

[WussRedXLi]

can i check if the 强风 is a soft running shoe?
if not can anyone advise which series under 乔丹 is a soft high mileage shoe?

Feiying PLAID?

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[Ender]

Yes you are right. A threadmill stress test is good for pre-race/pre-strengthnous exercise screening and it detects exercise induced ischemia and arrythmias.

If ischemia is noted, most probably you will be sent for angiogram to delineate the degree of stenosis.

Thanks for confirming the right test. Will aiming to do one before I reach 60, get doc clearance to do more intense interval training.

 

[Ender]

can i check if the 强风 is a soft running shoe?
if not can anyone advise which series under 乔丹 is a soft high mileage shoe?

Only have PB2 and PB 3 for comparison, PB3 softer. Haven't use my 强风 se yet, so no comment.

But from comments here (WussRedXLi) and other forum, seems like Plaid is even softer.

Don't expect super shoes to be high mileage if you want to maintain the bounce. According to an article I read on a study, those superfoam usually will lose their rebounce by around 200km and behave just like normal EVA. But still can use till the outsole totally gone.

 

[zeroX26]

Thanks for confirming the right test. Will aiming to do one before I reach 60, get doc clearance to do more intense interval training.

Just a word of caution regarding the protocol used in a treadmill stress test: its usually the Bruce or modified Bruce protocol which aims to induce fatigue via steep increase in gradient. That's fine for most laymen or general population just exercising for health and basic fitness purposes. But for runners, if you are not used to running slopes, then you might experience peripheral fatigue of the muscles during the test and give up before your heart is actually stressed hard enough. Another issue is sometimes they tend to terminate the test once your HR reaches 85% of MHR based on formula (I don't know if they still do it now though). So if you are someone whose MHR is actually much higher than what formulas predict, might be good to let the cardiologist know, otherwise once again the test is being terminated at an intensity b4 the heart is stressed sufficiently hard enough.

 

[xllms]

Just completed my ippt in November and i'm only left with 1 more next year then MR lo.

I used to train for my IPPT by just running 2.4km for 3 times a week. This method seems to work for me as it saves time. I was able to achieve a good time (~10:00 mins) in the past but not now anymore. I think it's due to aging haha.

It's alot easier to pass IPPT as compared to the 5 stations standard in the past.

kudos to you to have the discipline to train for ippt. i kept failing and was a regular RT participant

 

[xllms]

saucony endorphin speed 4 is coming

 

[Ender]

According to EDWMers' logic, this couple's knees already destroyed.

Need to be active as we age.

 

[Ender]

Just a word of caution regarding the protocol used in a treadmill stress test: its usually the Bruce or modified Bruce protocol which aims to induce fatigue via steep increase in gradient. That's fine for most laymen or general population just exercising for health and basic fitness purposes. But for runners, if you are not used to running slopes, then you might experience peripheral fatigue of the muscles during the test and give up before your heart is actually stressed hard enough. Another issue is sometimes they tend to terminate the test once your HR reaches 85% of MHR based on formula (I don't know if they still do it now though). So if you are someone whose MHR is actually much higher than what formulas predict, might be good to let the cardiologist know, otherwise once again the test is being terminated at an intensity b4 the heart is stressed sufficiently hard enough.

Thanks for the insight. Didn't know have to be aware they cater to gen population, and may just push to below threshold. Ya, I am looking HR at Threshold and above, to check it the heart display any anomalies under such stress over a long duration.

 

[zeroX26]

Thanks for the insight. Didn't know have to be aware they cater to gen population, and may just push to below threshold. Ya, I am looking HR at Threshold and above, to check it the heart display any anomalies under such stress over a long duration.

U see if you can chum siong with the cardiologist on changing the protocol. I find the Maximal Aerobic Speed protocol much more specific & relevant to runners. Basically its keeping the gradient fixed at 1%, every 30 secs increase speed by 0.5km/hr or 1km/hr per min until exhaustion.

 

[Ender]

saucony endorphin speed 4 is coming

The bottom looks like Novablast v1..

QD FY PB 4.0 also announced. Weight is alot less compare to PB 3.0. Will wait for 6:18 sales to get this one.
Taken from QD runners FB page.