jogging and motivation thread

[Mila Azul]

Has anyone experienced runner's toe? Will the position of the nail return to its normal state?

It is unsettling to observe that the swelling in my "runner's toe" has diminished, and now it seems as though the nail may detach.

 

[Ender]

Training load impact is cumulative. Especially for seasoned athletes, one or two high training load won't kill you if followed by deloading. Remember that Runtojapan guy who did 200km a day? or something like that. Training load definitely too high even for a Keyan athlete. Because he is a very seasoned runner, the resilience is there to tahan for a long time. But in the end he did break down, coz he had minimal deloading and recovery. but he bounce back was equally impressive, and owing to his resilience as a season athlete.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[Ender]

Has anyone experienced runner's toe? Will the position of the nail return to its normal state?

It is unsettling to observe that the swelling in my "runner's toe" has diminished, and now it seems as though the nail may detach.

A chronic problem for me. Every year the right big toe will blacken and lose the nail. Used to it liao, coz doesn't really affect my running.
Advice, let the nail to drop off naturally. It will grow back.

 

[sales69]

Has anyone experienced runner's toe? Will the position of the nail return to its normal state?

It is unsettling to observe that the swelling in my "runner's toe" has diminished, and now it seems as though the nail may detach.

Many times before. Try not to wear over tight shoes and avoid the shoe giving you the problem.

For me after a few months, the blackened nail will become normal again.

Sometimes the nail will drop off and also take a few months to grow back slowly to normal.

 

[Mila Azul]

A chronic problem for me. Every year the right big toe will blacken and lose the nail. Used to it liao, coz doesn't really affect my running.
Advice, let the nail to drop off naturally. It will grow back.

Thanks for the heads-up. I’m tempted to try removing the entire nail since it’s becoming loose—I’ve just been trimming it to prevent it from ripping off accidentally.

I suspect this might become chronic for me too, as I’m now noticing the same darkening symptom starting on my other toe.

 

[Mila Azul]

Many times before. Try not to wear over tight shoes and avoid the shoe giving you the problem.

For me after a few months, the blackened nail will become normal again.

Sometimes the nail will drop off and also take a few months to grow back slowly to normal.

It’s strange to me—I’ve been wearing 4E shoes for years, and only recently started experiencing runner’s toe.

 

[DigDub]

Congenital is nothing lifestyle can help one. No way can diet your way or exercise your way out of it.
Born with it. What can be helped is early detection and possible correction thru surgery. Check with @DigDub .

Ya after 40s better go for a CT scan. Some ailments normal checkup cannot detect one.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Congenital is nothing lifestyle can help one. No way can diet your way or exercise your way out of it.
Born with it. What can be helped is early detection and possible correction thru surgery. Check with @DigDub .

Yeah man, sad truth. Just gotta screen it, know it and amass knowledge from the pros (specialists) on how to reduce risks if surgery cannot or only partially fix. Live life to the fullest also.......

BTW that guy i posted was supposed to be a popular fitness / bodybuilder influencer back in the 2010s.......not that he is the massive / bulky type but he was more into symmetry and aesthetics. Died early 20s.

 

[animeonegai]

first time using saf issued NB running shoe. very springy and fast, didn't expect that was the case. the only issue was it's quite heavy.

 

[Ender]

It’s strange to me—I’ve been wearing 4E shoes for years, and only recently started experiencing runner’s toe.

My experience, the trauma may not necessary come from the horizontal plane, i.e the forward or sideway motion of the toe hitting the wall of the shoes. My case with the qiaodan pb series, I can run them without the insole. That means I increased the vertical clearance.

 

[Kuudere]

Training load impact is cumulative. Especially for seasoned athletes, one or two high training load won't kill you if followed by deloading. Remember that Runtojapan guy who did 200km a day? or something like that. Training load definitely too high even for a Keyan athlete. Because he is a very seasoned runner, the resilience is there to tahan for a long time. But in the end he did break down, coz he had minimal deloading and recovery. but he bounce back was equally impressive, and owing to his resilience as a season athlete.

Jake barraclough run high 200s - 300km/week. I think kelvin kiptum actually came close or has high mileage as well.

US marathoner connor mantz peaks at 200km/week.

But yea reloading is important to let the legs recover.

 

[sales69]

It’s strange to me—I’ve been wearing 4E shoes for years, and only recently started experiencing runner’s toe.

Could be new shoes, new/old insole, how you run, causing your toes to press again the upper and front of shoe.

I even got it from a slightly longer shoe. There's empty space so the foot slide in front which cause the toe to hit the front part constantly.

On the other hand, some shoes that fit tighter with barely any space left are fine.

It's a mixed bag really.

 

[WussRedXLi]

[Breaking through limits] All athletes go all out with low-oxygen training!!

 

[GlassDoor]

It’s strange to me—I’ve been wearing 4E shoes for years, and only recently started experiencing runner’s toe.

for me blacken toe nails in recent memories have all come from long runs in the rain. foot slide in shoe causing toes to hit the front of the shoe. Hard to notice in the moment as the shoe and feet are both wet. Normally only notice during shower after. Part and parcel of running especially if you clock higher mileage.

 

[animeonegai]

don't know fast or not.

for me blacken toe nails in recent memories have all come from long runs in the rain. foot slide in shoe causing toes to hit the front of the shoe. Hard to notice in the moment as the shoe and feet are both wet. Normally only notice during shower after. Part and parcel of running especially if you clock higher mileage.

the moment toe or where got issue, change shoes liao. esp true if you use that shoe for 1 year + or clock more than 400km. Shoes (running/training/in general) are never made to last.

 

[Kuudere]

WINGS Cross Country Championships 2026 - Women Open and Women Master (Winners & Finishers)​

edit - wah tribal triathlon fitluey also got go hoot the Open cat, finishing just after Goh Shing Ling. 18:42 and 19:10 respectively.

Considering Bedok reservoir surface, not bad leh..... not sure about their ages but dont seem to be over 50.

Goh Shing Ling

5k: 18.33
10k: 38.20
21.1k: 1:22:10
42.195k: 2.50.27 (cool) 2.59.25 (tropical)

Her scaling is quite good off 90k/week. And yes, Bedok Reservoir is tougher to run, so 18.42 is a good time there.

don't know fast or not.


the moment toe or where got issue, change shoes liao. esp true if you use that shoe for 1 year + or clock more than 400km. Shoes (running/training/in general) are never made to last.

It's pretty good, you probably can run 2.4km in 11 flat or possibly slightly under that

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

Goh Shing Ling

5k: 18.33
10k: 38.20
21.1k: 1:22:10
42.195k: 2.50.27 (cool) 2.59.25 (tropical)

Her scaling is quite good off 90k/week. And yes, Bedok Reservoir is tougher to run, so 18.42 is a good time there.

It's pretty good, you probably can run 2.4km in 11 flat or possibly slightly under that

9 mins for temperate vs tropical in reality is insane actually, or 1 min per 4.6km. That means even for 5k it bare minimum can shave us 30 seconds diff over here liao.

Yah good scaling, probably train at that distance majority of the time. 2:50 for FM is 4:02 pace, but then the converse is also true ba, if 5k can only manage something like 19:30 but you are a comfortably sub-3 runner, then........the muscle fibres be like. But of coz, i guess for middle aged folks that could still be a possibility due to age......im seeing on letsrun forums that there are 19:xx sub 3 middle aged runners.
On reddit or similar forums, there are even some 16:xx folks ( not talking about 16:59 lol) who cant go sub-3 even . Of coz youngsters collegiate / cross country type runners who are running that distance more for fun and without specific long distance aerobic training ....also unknown factors like cramps / bone or simi pain / fuelling. You dont train for it of coz bo huat.....same goes for ultra distances like Mont Blanc 175km and humongous elevation gain.

I remember last time we were wondering what 2.4 / 5k timing that sprinters like Shanti can run. heh.......

edit - i gai siao you if you love racing and dont mind a bit of danger (controlled danger), come over to cycling and do duathlons. I think you'd love multi displine sports. Last weekend i came across Quantum racing team @ Sentosa. Not say racing per se, but really the pace is no joke and it's very dynamic in nature, not just racing on PCN kinda condtions. Quite addictive with the adrenaline. There are also other rides that are racy in nature, but involves beating red lights sometimes, so...... better not, not asking you to go those types. Sentosa quite a fair number of fast fellas sometimes that you can meet, coz over there also got triathletes training.
How much cycling can carry over to running, i think we cannot say for sure as it is quite individualised based on so many factors, but lately got 2 good examples in which it works for them. (generally cycling does not really carry over to running much, but we'll never know, esp if the volume is high + there is some specificity in some areas). Anyway, running can carry over more to cycling also ba.

 

[Peanut15]

My experience, the trauma may not necessary come from the horizontal plane, i.e the forward or sideway motion of the toe hitting the wall of the shoes. My case with the qiaodan pb series, I can run them without the insole. That means I increased the vertical clearance.

I got black toe twice from qiandan PB5. 1 of the nail drop off!

Bought adidas with 0.5 size bigger and it felt better. I realise my toe is hitting the shoe even though it's not tight