jogging and motivation thread

[porky_88]

this year bydsim aid stations no give gel?
if so will probably go with 3-4 winsport gel + final push at 32km with sis beta with nootropics

 

[sph777]

this year bydsim aid stations no give gel?
if so will probably go with 3-4 winsport gel + final push at 32km with sis beta with nootropics

should have I think just officially not announced yet

 

[WussRedXLi]

Now my right foot got the plantar. No more plantar on left foot lol. So the only exercise I do now is swim 10 laps each time.

which waiting till next Jan to do my hand surgery. Doc will remove the metal plate and screws. So for time being cannot cycle yet

Get well soon.

This morning got pros from teams on training ride liao, this weekend TDF crit. Someone saw Astana XDS' various countries national champs.

Dont think can see UAE Emirates XRG Del Toro tho......probably too precious to be let loose around SG's local road conditions.

Maybe next year, cycling awaits you again.

ps. As usual, ditch the clipless pedals. Or put it this way, i give you Superblast 2 (no need simi spanking new Superblast 3), can you complete a 5k, 10k, HM/FM in a decent time or not? Of coz you can, i think the vast vast vast majority of the folks in this thread can and wont feel much of a difference. I got a lot of my PBs in much older shoes also.

Vast majority of the difference comes from your training, after which would be aerodynamics ie free speed (or rather the ability to hold a good position for the max amt of time, your core your front deltoids your neck your spinae erectors etc). And of coz since cycling duration is usually much longer than runs, your fueling. I have seen that soooo many times in my rides liao, people who are much faster than me but faltering after just 50-60% of the ride, even though they do fuel (but insufficiently). Not only me, but my kid found that out also, he is no fit zai but at the end parts of the ride still like a dragon while other faster folks during the first half of the ride semi bonked at the end and my kid could still maintain speed/power.
If you cant win someone in speed/power, then you win them in other ways.

So, personal experience, wont make much of a difference, if any, for local club rides.... But the safety difference is gonna be huge, esp in unexpected scenarios and also coz my suspicion is that some cannot get over that hurdle neuromuscular co-ordination or whatever other reason like balancing/reaction times due to age etc. Esp matters since you not young already, same as me. So why risk.

Go TB, get some lightweight pedals that has 10-12 pins and that are wide enough (bigger surface area), can grip onto flats.......Shimano has flats, more than enough. Or EVR brand, good stuff, around $100 only.
Even if you off-saddle, wont be risky and slip off one, dont worry. Remember, get the 10-12 pins ones.
600-800W off saddle also wont slip off.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Just....avoid any crash, at all cost. Prevent it at all cost. You have all the time in the world, it is no race for us.

 

[porky_88]

winsports gel variation between CN and TW?
been using winsports double source gel manufactured in TW and it's 60ML with 1:0.8 indicated
today just received the same gel sourced from TB and it's made in CN and it's 75ml and packaging never state glucose to fructose ratio. the formulation seems to different. expiry date is 2028 march so should relatively new batch.
sugar in tw made is 20.5g and CN made is 15.4g
sodium in tw made is 5.8mg and CN made is 30mg
both indicate 45g of carbs on the packaging

sugar labeled here should be referring to fructose right? if so CN is using 2:1 formulation vs TW's 1:0.8. confirmed using simple maths. why can't they stick to the same thing???

need help from fellow bros to confirm CN winsports gel incase is bootleg

 

[Ender]

winsports gel variation between CN and TW?
been using winsports double source gel manufactured in TW and it's 60ML with 1:0.8 indicated
today just received the same gel sourced from TB and it's made in CN and it's 75ml and packaging never state glucose to fructose ratio. the formulation seems to different. expiry date is 2028 march so should relatively new batch.
sugar in tw made is 20.5g and CN made is 15.4g
sodium in tw made is 5.8mg and CN made is 30mg
both indicate 45g of carbs on the packaging

sugar labeled here should be referring to fructose right? if so CN is using 2:1 formulation vs TW's 1:0.8. confirmed using simple maths. why can't they stick to the same thing???

need help from fellow bros to confirm CN winsports gel incase is bootleg

My winsport bought more than a year ago, for last year SCSM, was the 75g pack, with 45g carb. No indication on meltodextrin:fructose ratio on the package. Very sweet. I don't know if fake.
BTW China is spec at 75gram for a package, Taiwan is spec at 60ml for the package. They could be the same weight since gel is dense.

 

[porky_88]

My winsport bought more than a year ago, for last year SCSM, was the 75g pack, with 45g carb. No indication on meltodextrin:fructose ratio on the package. Very sweet. I don't know if fake.
BTW China is spec at 75gram for a package, Taiwan is spec at 60ml for the package. They could be the same weight since gel is dense.

Appreciate if you can help to check the sugar and sodium content on the packaging?

Expiry is 18months as stated on packaging. And given mine is expiring on 2028 march means its very new batch from Sept 2026.

Tried one CN made this morning during long run. Seems similar maybe a tad sweeter. No stomach or bowel discomfort.

 

[Ender]

Appreciate if you can help to check the sugar and sodium content on the packaging?

Expiry is 18months as stated on packaging. And given mine is expiring on 2028 march means its very new batch from Sept 2026.

Tried one CN made this morning during long run. Seems similar maybe a tad sweeter. No stomach or bowel discomfort.

No sugar content listed.
Sodium, Carb are in the picture.

upload and get image url

 

[Kitaro9202]

Today start from rail corridor till queenway shopping Centre there
Abt 10km++ 1hr 45min slow jog and walk

 

[Ender]

Next week tapering. Kinda feel relief to get passed the peak.

 

[Scrabby]

Anhui Hefei Marathon 2026 ''LIVE''

https://webcast.amemv.com/douyin/we...kKXWIezx1XURkRMe4hJDmWYTiOK-8vNoZQFtvCK32LXt4

 

[porky_88]

Next week tapering. Kinda feel relief to get passed the peak.

what's your peak weekly? or rather monthly? target time?

i will probably do a minimum taper only in the last week this year as weekly volume has been relatively low in the 60k+ and mostly on the treadmill and transiting to outside run justin the last week. Going to treat bydsim more like a extended LSD training session as ramp up to next year's osaka in end feb.

 

[xllms]

My winsport bought more than a year ago, for last year SCSM, was the 75g pack, with 45g carb. No indication on meltodextrin:fructose ratio on the package. Very sweet. I don't know if fake.
BTW China is spec at 75gram for a package, Taiwan is spec at 60ml for the package. They could be the same weight since gel is dense.

mine (Winsports Energy Gel Double Source) bought and produced in CN is 50g.
能量 Energy 442kJ/50g
蛋白质 Protein 0/50g
脂肪 Fats 0/50g
碳水化合物 Carbohydrate 26.0g/50g
钠 Sodium 30mg/50g
different from yours

 

[porky_88]

mine (Winsports Energy Gel Double Source) bought and produced in CN is 50g.
能量 Energy 442kJ/50g
蛋白质 Protein 0/50g
脂肪 Fats 0/50g
碳水化合物 Carbohydrate 26.0g/50g
钠 Sodium 30mg/50g
different from yours

i believe this is the "mini" version. I have used the taiwan made "mini" before as well but it's 40ml volume with 28g of carbs. So tw made is 60ml and 40ml. cn made is 75g and 50g.

basically can consider tw and cn made as two different brands of gel as contents are different. I brought a 10 pack from TB to test due to price advantage and have since used 4 but I will go back to sourcing the tw made ones.

 

[sph777]

this year bydsim aid stations no give gel?
if so will probably go with 3-4 winsport gel + final push at 32km with sis beta with nootropics

Ben at around 29 min mark says it’s aminosaurus again

 

[Ender]

what's your peak weekly? or rather monthly? target time?

i will probably do a minimum taper only in the last week this year as weekly volume has been relatively low in the 60k+ and mostly on the treadmill and transiting to outside run justin the last week. Going to treat bydsim more like a extended LSD training session as ramp up to next year's osaka in end feb.

Only the past three weeks, ramp up mileage. Before that due to haze, had very low weekly mileage. Don't know if these three weeks is going to compensate the lask of running during haze weeks.
Aiming of sub 4, but don't think can meet it due to the haze. Not just focus on distance to train endurance and survive the marathon with lesser pain.

 

[Ender]

Just received an email from BYD, now REPC also needs to book a time slot. Geez.
Walk ins will take longer time. What is this.