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I was considering Relax Smile after reading SNEC's website.

However reading through here, seems like some people got bad experience?

Can you guys share more? Should I wait? I used contact lens almost daily now. No farsightedness (Lao Hua) symptoms so far although I'm 40s.

Can also share the price range?
 

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My LASIK is next week. I'm kind of nervous thinking about it can anyone share what would the procedure be like? Can you blink during the op? Can u rub or squint your eyes after the op?
The doctor said it will be painless, true?
 

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I'm thinking of doing refractive surgery as well. Already book assessment and planned surgery in July

After much research and reading many journal articles on Google Scholar, I think I will go for the transprk epi-lasik or the no touch no flap lasik. The reason is that there is no flap thus less risk during the procedure and the cornea is not weakened. The only disadvantage is longer healing period and slightly higher risk of corneal hazing though this is mitigated by applying Mitomycin-C during the procedure itself but got some concerns over the toxicity of Mitomycin-C.

Can't decide whether go Clearvision or Eagle Eye Centre. Anyone did Epi-Lasik at these centres recently ?
 

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My LASIK is next week. I'm kind of nervous thinking about it can anyone share what would the procedure be like? Can you blink during the op? Can u rub or squint your eyes after the op?
The doctor said it will be painless, true?

Bumps anyone did it before and can share experience?
 

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Bumps anyone did it before and can share experience?

I did mine 3 weeks ago. It is not pain as they will put numbing eyedrops in your eye. You can't blink (they will use something to hold your eyes open) and the doctor will hold your head to prevent you from moving. Just keep looking at the green light. The procedure will be over before you know it and the doctor will put a protective lens in your eyes.

You can't rub or squeeze your eyes after the operation until the protective lens are out, which is 5 days later. The numbing drops will slowly wear off after the operation and you will feel some stinging sensation but it goes away after you sleep.

so yup don't worry!!
 

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I did mine 3 weeks ago. It is not pain as they will put numbing eyedrops in your eye. You can't blink (they will use something to hold your eyes open) and the doctor will hold your head to prevent you from moving. Just keep looking at the green light. The procedure will be over before you know it and the doctor will put a protective lens in your eyes.

You can't rub or squeeze your eyes after the operation until the protective lens are out, which is 5 days later. The numbing drops will slowly wear off after the operation and you will feel some stinging sensation but it goes away after you sleep.

so yup don't worry!!

How's ur recovery so far ?

Any reason why you chose to go Clearvision ?
 

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Nobody consider relax smile?

I'm not considering cos this procedure is relatively new so the long term effects not known yet.

Besides, this procedure seems to be technically more challenging for the surgeon cos need to use blunt instruments to try to separate the lenticule and pull it out.
 

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I'm not considering cos this procedure is relatively new so the long term effects not known yet.

Besides, this procedure seems to be technically more challenging for the surgeon cos need to use blunt instruments to try to separate the lenticule and pull it out.
But I read it is more suitable for contact sports which is the type of procedure I am looking for. I need it to be more physically enduring.
 

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But I read it is more suitable for contact sports which is the type of procedure I am looking for. I need it to be more physically enduring.

Epi-lasik should be the best for contact sports. Cos got no permanent flap or pocket in your cornea. The excimer laser just shape the top of the cornea and the epithelium will regenerate after that so it will be like the same as before. Can consider LASEK or Transprk Epi-Lasik.
 

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i just made an appointment at EEC next Monday for pre-assessment and surgery. Fingers crossed all run smoothly. And hope price not over the ceiling :s13:
 

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After spending much time to research and reading though journal articles, i think the best refractive surgery right now in the market is the TransPRK with the Smart Pulse technology on the Schwind Amaris 1050s machine. They are marketing this treatment as SmartSurfACE.

I think this technology is pretty new as I can only find 2 published research papers.

Advanced-surface-ablation-with-a-new-software-for-the-reduction-of-ablation-irregularities

Trans advanced surface laser ablation (TransPRK) outcomes using
SmartPulseTechnology


This treatment does not create any LASIK flaps or SMILE lenticule thus it is safer during the operation and these flaps are permanent and will never heal completely to pre-operative strength.

In addition, the recovery is faster than other variants of PRK such as LASEK, Epi-LASIK cos it smoothen the cornea after the treatment. Apparently, the smoothness of the cornea seems to have a high correlation with recovery and haze.

Based on the published papers, patients who undergoes the TransPRK with the Smart Pulse technology will have faster recovery as they will have functional vision immediately with lower discomfort as compared to normal TransPRK. But it will not be as fast as LASIK. I guess LASIK would be almost instant clear vision after operation and can go to work next day ? Someone did post his experience on the TransPRK +
SmartPulse technology in a forum here

There are 2 shortcomings with this treatment. This treatment seems to be only available at Dr Jerry Tan Eye Surgery. He has the Schwind Amaris 1050rs + SmartSurface software and I think his fees are very expensive like what some mentioned in this thread earlier. Dr Tony Ho from Clearvision has the Schwind Amaris 1050rs machine as well but it seems that he does not have the SmartSurface software cos' i can't find any details on his website.

The other issue is the usage of Mitomycin-C also known as MMC in short. For all PRK treatment, the current protocol seems to be that surgeons would apply 0.02% of Mitomycin-C on the stromal bed of the cornea for a short time, say around 15 to 60s depending on surgeon preference to prevent haze. I'm not too sure on the long-term toxicity of MMC. From what I researched, MMC is actually a drug approved for cancer treatment and it is proven to be carcinogenic in mice. On the flip side, MMC has been used for a long time in eye surgery earlier on in glaucoma and pterygium so the track record is quite established. Still, the thought of applying such a drug makes me hesitate.

I think I will book an assessment with Dr Jerry Tan to see if it is possible to zap my eyes without using MMC while keeping the risk of haze very low since my myopia is not very high.

Otherwise, there is a next promising treatment that can correct low myopia without any laser zapping known as Photo-refractive Intrastromal Cross-linking or PiXL in short. Basically they just put vitamin B2 drops on your eyes and shine UV light for some time. It will strengthen and flatten your cornea to correct myopia. This is already under trials and interestingly, Eagle Eye Centre has published the results as I think they were doing trials on this as well. See article here. I think this treatment will be established in the next 2 to 3 years with published studies in journals.

Sorry for the WOT here but I thought it would be good to share my findings. It seems that there's a lot of marketing for LASIK and it took me a long time to cut through all of this and use published journal articles to make some objective decisions. We only got one pair of eyes and laser treatment is a elective procedure so it is better to do some research instead. Otherwise, I guess glasses and contact lenses aren't that bad as well. Caveat Emptor
 

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After spending much time to research and reading though journal articles, i think the best refractive surgery right now in the market is the TransPRK with the Smart Pulse technology on the Schwind Amaris 1050s machine. They are marketing this treatment as SmartSurfACE.

I think this technology is pretty new as I can only find 2 published research papers.

Advanced-surface-ablation-with-a-new-software-for-the-reduction-of-ablation-irregularities

Trans advanced surface laser ablation (TransPRK) outcomes using
SmartPulseTechnology


This treatment does not create any LASIK flaps or SMILE lenticule thus it is safer during the operation and these flaps are permanent and will never heal completely to pre-operative strength.

In addition, the recovery is faster than other variants of PRK such as LASEK, Epi-LASIK cos it smoothen the cornea after the treatment. Apparently, the smoothness of the cornea seems to have a high correlation with recovery and haze.

Based on the published papers, patients who undergoes the TransPRK with the Smart Pulse technology will have faster recovery as they will have functional vision immediately with lower discomfort as compared to normal TransPRK. But it will not be as fast as LASIK. I guess LASIK would be almost instant clear vision after operation and can go to work next day ? Someone did post his experience on the TransPRK +
SmartPulse technology in a forum here

There are 2 shortcomings with this treatment. This treatment seems to be only available at Dr Jerry Tan Eye Surgery. He has the Schwind Amaris 1050rs + SmartSurface software and I think his fees are very expensive like what some mentioned in this thread earlier. Dr Tony Ho from Clearvision has the Schwind Amaris 1050rs machine as well but it seems that he does not have the SmartSurface software cos' i can't find any details on his website.

The other issue is the usage of Mitomycin-C also known as MMC in short. For all PRK treatment, the current protocol seems to be that surgeons would apply 0.02% of Mitomycin-C on the stromal bed of the cornea for a short time, say around 15 to 60s depending on surgeon preference to prevent haze. I'm not too sure on the long-term toxicity of MMC. From what I researched, MMC is actually a drug approved for cancer treatment and it is proven to be carcinogenic in mice. On the flip side, MMC has been used for a long time in eye surgery earlier on in glaucoma and pterygium so the track record is quite established. Still, the thought of applying such a drug makes me hesitate.

I think I will book an assessment with Dr Jerry Tan to see if it is possible to zap my eyes without using MMC while keeping the risk of haze very low since my myopia is not very high.

Otherwise, there is a next promising treatment that can correct low myopia without any laser zapping known as Photo-refractive Intrastromal Cross-linking or PiXL in short. Basically they just put vitamin B2 drops on your eyes and shine UV light for some time. It will strengthen and flatten your cornea to correct myopia. This is already under trials and interestingly, Eagle Eye Centre has published the results as I think they were doing trials on this as well. See article here. I think this treatment will be established in the next 2 to 3 years with published studies in journals.

Sorry for the WOT here but I thought it would be good to share my findings. It seems that there's a lot of marketing for LASIK and it took me a long time to cut through all of this and use published journal articles to make some objective decisions. We only got one pair of eyes and laser treatment is a elective procedure so it is better to do some research instead. Otherwise, I guess glasses and contact lenses aren't that bad as well. Caveat Emptor
i did epilasik surgery at clearvision dr tony ho few years back. then last week my brother just did the new one called transprk/ transepi with him also. same machine as jerry tan, also got smartsurface. but $3.6k net. so half the price of jerry tan!!! $.$ hmmm why jerry tan charge so ex ah? anyone knows?
 

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i did epilasik surgery at clearvision dr tony ho few years back. then last week my brother just did the new one called transprk/ transepi with him also. same machine as jerry tan, also got smartsurface. but $3.6k net. so half the price of jerry tan!!! $.$ hmmm why jerry tan charge so ex ah? anyone knows?
He is expensive because he has a reputation for doing eyes of SAF and SIA pilots
 

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i did epilasik surgery at clearvision dr tony ho few years back. then last week my brother just did the new one called transprk/ transepi with him also. same machine as jerry tan, also got smartsurface. but $3.6k net. so half the price of jerry tan!!! $.$ hmmm why jerry tan charge so ex ah? anyone knows?

I went for Dr Tony Ho's talk and he didn't mention anything about SmartSurface.

Dr Jerry Tan only does one eye at a time with a week or two in between so maybe I think this contributes to the cost.
 

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After spending much time to research and reading though journal articles, i think the best refractive surgery right now in the market is the TransPRK with the Smart Pulse technology on the Schwind Amaris 1050s machine. They are marketing this treatment as SmartSurfACE.

I think this technology is pretty new as I can only find 2 published research papers.

Advanced-surface-ablation-with-a-new-software-for-the-reduction-of-ablation-irregularities

Trans advanced surface laser ablation (TransPRK) outcomes using
SmartPulseTechnology


This treatment does not create any LASIK flaps or SMILE lenticule thus it is safer during the operation and these flaps are permanent and will never heal completely to pre-operative strength.

In addition, the recovery is faster than other variants of PRK such as LASEK, Epi-LASIK cos it smoothen the cornea after the treatment. Apparently, the smoothness of the cornea seems to have a high correlation with recovery and haze.

Based on the published papers, patients who undergoes the TransPRK with the Smart Pulse technology will have faster recovery as they will have functional vision immediately with lower discomfort as compared to normal TransPRK. But it will not be as fast as LASIK. I guess LASIK would be almost instant clear vision after operation and can go to work next day ? Someone did post his experience on the TransPRK +
SmartPulse technology in a forum here

There are 2 shortcomings with this treatment. This treatment seems to be only available at Dr Jerry Tan Eye Surgery. He has the Schwind Amaris 1050rs + SmartSurface software and I think his fees are very expensive like what some mentioned in this thread earlier. Dr Tony Ho from Clearvision has the Schwind Amaris 1050rs machine as well but it seems that he does not have the SmartSurface software cos' i can't find any details on his website.

The other issue is the usage of Mitomycin-C also known as MMC in short. For all PRK treatment, the current protocol seems to be that surgeons would apply 0.02% of Mitomycin-C on the stromal bed of the cornea for a short time, say around 15 to 60s depending on surgeon preference to prevent haze. I'm not too sure on the long-term toxicity of MMC. From what I researched, MMC is actually a drug approved for cancer treatment and it is proven to be carcinogenic in mice. On the flip side, MMC has been used for a long time in eye surgery earlier on in glaucoma and pterygium so the track record is quite established. Still, the thought of applying such a drug makes me hesitate.

I think I will book an assessment with Dr Jerry Tan to see if it is possible to zap my eyes without using MMC while keeping the risk of haze very low since my myopia is not very high.

Otherwise, there is a next promising treatment that can correct low myopia without any laser zapping known as Photo-refractive Intrastromal Cross-linking or PiXL in short. Basically they just put vitamin B2 drops on your eyes and shine UV light for some time. It will strengthen and flatten your cornea to correct myopia. This is already under trials and interestingly, Eagle Eye Centre has published the results as I think they were doing trials on this as well. See article here. I think this treatment will be established in the next 2 to 3 years with published studies in journals.

Sorry for the WOT here but I thought it would be good to share my findings. It seems that there's a lot of marketing for LASIK and it took me a long time to cut through all of this and use published journal articles to make some objective decisions. We only got one pair of eyes and laser treatment is a elective procedure so it is better to do some research instead. Otherwise, I guess glasses and contact lenses aren't that bad as well. Caveat Emptor
Do you know if this clearvision's safe sight TransPRK same as this smartsurface? Use same machine though.

http://www.clearvision.com.sg/safe-sight-transprk/
 

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Do you know if this clearvision's safe sight TransPRK same as this smartsurface? Use same machine though.

http://www.clearvision.com.sg/safe-sight-transprk/

The machine is the same but I'm not sure if their machine has the software upgrade.

This Smartsurface thing is like a treatment software algorithm to smooth out the stromal bed, area of the cornea being zapped to make it smooth.

On the manufacturer's website, if u scroll down to the end on this page here, you will find Clearvision, Shinagawa, EEC and Dr Jerry Tan's clinic. But I can only find Smartsurface on Dr Jerry Tan's website cos' maybe his clinic was among the first few to test this Smartsurface along with some other clinics in the world. See the paper here.

The only way to find out is to call the clinic although I guess some staff may not know also or ask the surgeons themselves.
 
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