learning japanese

[surfuz]

I was quite lucky as my expenses were all paid for by my company and allowances were given for my daily lunches and dinner. I got to stay in this hotel (http://www.newotani.co.jp/en/group/index.html)

I was told this is a 5 star hotel in Japan. Per night is about 450 Sing dollars... I was like... WOW!
Really happy to be in this company.

And what's more, i got to gain experience about how the Japanese work in Japan, etc. And learn things outside the classroom. e.g

How do you say cold water in Japanese?

つめたい水？

In Japan, it's not being said like this. it's called おひや.

how about warm water?

あたたかい水？

In Japan, no body call it by this way, it's called おゆ。

How about fish? さかな？ Nono... the Japanese respect the fishes a lot (LOL) and it's being called おさかな。

Everybody knows what's かいてんずし、but anyone knows what's ながれずし？




I think this system is the one in Tampopo @ Liang Court.

Thanks for telling us that おひや. is iced water - this is useful.
How about lukewarm water??
お湯is hot water, right?

Thanks!

 

[dimitri_can]

Did a check with my japanese friend.

ぬるま湯(ぬるまゆ)

 

[Ah_keong]

Thank You

Yup, my birthday is on the last day of January.

I want to buy some JLPT 2 book materials and Jap manga. But didn't know that they had sales on that day

woo... mine is the 2nd last day of Jan...

 

[Ah_keong]

I was quite lucky as my expenses were all paid for by my company and allowances were given for my daily lunches and dinner. I got to stay in this hotel (http://www.newotani.co.jp/en/group/index.html)

I was told this is a 5 star hotel in Japan. Per night is about 450 Sing dollars... I was like... WOW!
Really happy to be in this company.

And what's more, i got to gain experience about how the Japanese work in Japan, etc. And learn things outside the classroom. e.g

How do you say cold water in Japanese?

つめたい水？

In Japan, it's not being said like this. it's called おひや.

how about warm water?

あたたかい水？

In Japan, no body call it by this way, it's called おゆ。

How about fish? さかな？ Nono... the Japanese respect the fishes a lot (LOL) and it's being called おさかな。

Everybody knows what's かいてんずし、but anyone knows what's ながれずし？

I was told there's a store in Singapore, but in Japan, it's very hard to find.

http://www.uogashizushi.co.jp/movie/nagare-1.wmv

Looks like all my efforts through the interview and forcing myself to "sing" on buses since 3 years all paid out...

thanks for sharing!
really learn a lot here...

 

[surfuz]

Did a check with my japanese friend.

ぬるま湯(ぬるまゆ)

Ohhh..this is very useful for me.

Thanks thanks!! =D

 

[crystalight]

I was quite lucky as my expenses were all paid for by my company and allowances were given for my daily lunches and dinner. I got to stay in this hotel (http://www.newotani.co.jp/en/group/index.html)

I was told this is a 5 star hotel in Japan. Per night is about 450 Sing dollars... I was like... WOW!
Really happy to be in this company.

And what's more, i got to gain experience about how the Japanese work in Japan, etc. And learn things outside the classroom. e.g

How do you say cold water in Japanese?

つめたい水？

In Japan, it's not being said like this. it's called おひや.

how about warm water?

あたたかい水？

In Japan, no body call it by this way, it's called おゆ。

How about fish? さかな？ Nono... the Japanese respect the fishes a lot (LOL) and it's being called おさかな。

Everybody knows what's かいてんずし、but anyone knows what's ながれずし？

I was told there's a store in Singapore, but in Japan, it's very hard to find.

http://www.uogashizushi.co.jp/movie/nagare-1.wmv

Looks like all my efforts through the interview and forcing myself to "sing" on buses since 3 years all paid out...

wow! I've looked up the hotel. It's beautuful.

the new system of sushi looks impressive. looks so much more pro than the kaiten sushi.

the way you talk about the fish is funny. lol

 

[dimitri_can]

Yup..That kind of price for that kind of hotel. =(

 

[PingJun]

woo... mine is the 2nd last day of Jan...

Happy Birthday To You As Well

 

[glory83]

Anyone heard abt yanolas japanese school ? It is very near my ofc ...

 

[Adventia]

Hi Ping Jun,

I strongly suggest you talk to Kanai sensei first if you are switching. She will be able to advise you.

I spoke to her at length during my placement test in Ikoma (I went to Pyaess, found that school's pace so sloooooooooow that I switched back to Ikoma)...
her JLPT class is very intensive. No offence to you but if you are a person who is not a very fast learner, you are better off staying in the usual ikoma classes as Kanai sensei teaches very fast and she won't have time to explain things in detail... to you.

By the way, if you found ur current classes too slow, you can request skip to Advance. Frankly i found Pre-Advance a very unnecessary level and feel Ikoma is just trying to add levels and making more money.

I am thinking the same thing about pre-advanced also.I cant justify spending on pre-advance now.
Most of the things inside are from JLPT 3,if someone is firm on his/her stuff, i think is abit extra.
I am finishing my pre-advance 1 very soon le...i now considering whether to continue on to pre-advance 2 or not.
My foundation is still not very firm,but i also dont think i need classes to built it up.
Partly because my understanding is there,i only need self revision i think.
As for the JLPT 2 stuff,i am taking prep course also,so its covering up.
Is pre-advance 2(meaning the second book) still going to be largely based on JLPT 3 stuff?
My only concern is about conversation which i am still not very good at...lolz...
Truth to be said,i am not very good...i feel that my lessons now is ok...but oddly i am feeling bored...i dont know why...lolz...

End up i think prep class which should be boring is more interesting and challenging.

 

[dimitri_can]

Anyone heard abt yanolas japanese school ? It is very near my ofc ...

I was from there...My friend invited me there... Then i quit after a while. That was like 2 years back le...

 

[hpoirot]

I am thinking the same thing about pre-advanced also.I cant justify spending on pre-advance now.
Most of the things inside are from JLPT 3,if someone is firm on his/her stuff, i think is abit extra.
I am finishing my pre-advance 1 very soon le...i now considering whether to continue on to pre-advance 2 or not.
My foundation is still not very firm,but i also dont think i need classes to built it up.
Partly because my understanding is there,i only need self revision i think.
As for the JLPT 2 stuff,i am taking prep course also,so its covering up.
Is pre-advance 2(meaning the second book) still going to be largely based on JLPT 3 stuff?
My only concern is about conversation which i am still not very good at...lolz...
Truth to be said,i am not very good...i feel that my lessons now is ok...but oddly i am feeling bored...i dont know why...lolz...

End up i think prep class which should be boring is more interesting and challenging.

Just curious, which textbook is Ikoma using for Pre-Advanced and Advanced classes, after Minna no nihongo is completed?

 

[iolanthe]

Just curious, which textbook is Ikoma using for Pre-Advanced and Advanced classes, after Minna no nihongo is completed?

Pre-Advance: 新日本語の中級１＆２
Advance: 中級から学ぶ日本語

 

[iolanthe]

I am thinking the same thing about pre-advanced also.I cant justify spending on pre-advance now.
Most of the things inside are from JLPT 3,if someone is firm on his/her stuff, i think is abit extra.
I am finishing my pre-advance 1 very soon le...i now considering whether to continue on to pre-advance 2 or not.
My foundation is still not very firm,but i also dont think i need classes to built it up.
Partly because my understanding is there,i only need self revision i think.
As for the JLPT 2 stuff,i am taking prep course also,so its covering up.
Is pre-advance 2(meaning the second book) still going to be largely based on JLPT 3 stuff?
My only concern is about conversation which i am still not very good at...lolz...
Truth to be said,i am not very good...i feel that my lessons now is ok...but oddly i am feeling bored...i dont know why...lolz...

End up i think prep class which should be boring is more interesting and challenging.

I too felt that Pre-Adv classes were boring. The learning pace was rather slow. Despite all that, I still find that I do learn some things about Japanese culture from the text, which I didn't really learn when I was taking Intermediate.

Well... having been through both JLPT2 lecturers, Kanai sensei is indeed not for people whose foundation is not that strong, or are slow learners, but you can opt to go to Iwata sensei's classes. She doesn't speak as fast (in fact, I found it quite slow) but she goes through each bunpo in detail to make sure you understand them. I have a friend who's taking the class with me, felt that Iwata sensei's classes are better for him (he stopped at Intermediate). I think it's up to your own pace of learning and preference. ^^

I found the bullet train speed which Kanai sensei talks, keeps me very focused in class. Because I have to pay 100% attention to keep up with what she's talking.

 

[dimitri_can]

I am thinking the same thing about pre-advanced also.I cant justify spending on pre-advance now.
Most of the things inside are from JLPT 3,if someone is firm on his/her stuff, i think is abit extra.
I am finishing my pre-advance 1 very soon le...i now considering whether to continue on to pre-advance 2 or not.
My foundation is still not very firm,but i also dont think i need classes to built it up.
Partly because my understanding is there,i only need self revision i think.
As for the JLPT 2 stuff,i am taking prep course also,so its covering up.
Is pre-advance 2(meaning the second book) still going to be largely based on JLPT 3 stuff?
My only concern is about conversation which i am still not very good at...lolz...
Truth to be said,i am not very good...i feel that my lessons now is ok...but oddly i am feeling bored...i dont know why...lolz...

End up i think prep class which should be boring is more interesting and challenging.

Do you know why there's a pre-advance in the 1st place?

1. It's meant to help you guys cope with the conversation challenges of JLPT 2.
2. It's there because there are lots of stuff which belong to JLPT 3 that weren't covered, and maybe somehow u managed to learn it urself, so it's there.
3. A lot of things that you might not know, like 休みます and 休み, why is 休み a noun?

and stuff.

My suggestion is not to take Pre-advance lightly...

 

[zeroxmxi]

Hi minna-san,

I can't help but find this thread very interesting, so I thought I might like to chip in.
Unlike most of you here (my assumption), I'm from Bunka Language Center. Recently just finished its Intermediate 4 (My school has 4 levels of Intermediate) and I'm about to sign up for the Pre-Advance lessons (My school has 3 levels of pre-advance).

I would like to echo what dimitri_can-san has said earlier about pre-advance lessons. I think school offering the same and for the same purpose, mean to cope with conversational skills.

In my school, pre-advance promotion to the next level is by teacher recommendation. I think it's pretty awesome, if the teacher doesn't find you apt enough, then you cannot proceed to the next level.

My aim is to get JPLT 2 in the end, but I haven't taken my JLPT 3 yet, but it's going to be this year.

Good luck to anyone who's taking JLPT 3 this year.

Regards.

 

[unfinished07]

I too felt that Pre-Adv classes were boring. The learning pace was rather slow. Despite all that, I still find that I do learn some things about Japanese culture from the text, which I didn't really learn when I was taking Intermediate.

Well... having been through both JLPT2 lecturers, Kanai sensei is indeed not for people whose foundation is not that strong, or are slow learners, but you can opt to go to Iwata sensei's classes. She doesn't speak as fast (in fact, I found it quite slow) but she goes through each bunpo in detail to make sure you understand them. I have a friend who's taking the class with me, felt that Iwata sensei's classes are better for him (he stopped at Intermediate). I think it's up to your own pace of learning and preference. ^^

I found the bullet train speed which Kanai sensei talks, keeps me very focused in class. Because I have to pay 100% attention to keep up with what she's talking.

actually JLPT classes should be for ppl who already have foundation, from their normal classes like beginner, int, adv, etc. these classes focus much more on conversation, and u can learn extra stuff not in textbooks (depending on the material the teacher chooses). JLPT classes are to help u get that JLPT cert. thats why teachers have to go through the bunpo fast to cover the large amt of bunpo and vocab. without foundation, there's not much meaning to go for JLPT classes, even if u pass. well, unless u just want to get the cert.

and as for the teacher speaking fast, that is in fact a good thing. it helps u with your listening and understanding skills, coz when u listen to japanese speaking, outside the school, almost all of them speak much faster than teachers in schools. and in fact, some teachers slow down their talking speed in class, for the sake of students, which i think is not very helpful. even if you speak to japanese, most of them will slow down their speed for you

 

[zeroxmxi]

and as for the teacher speaking fast, that is in fact a good thing. it helps u with your listening and understanding skills, coz when u listen to japanese speaking, outside the school, almost all of them speak much faster than teachers in schools.

Yeah, scary isn't it. While I was in Hokkaido last year, I had a taste of native Japanese speech. Absolutely no latency. None at all. LOL

Regards.

 

[dimitri_can]

I too felt that Pre-Adv classes were boring. The learning pace was rather slow. Despite all that, I still find that I do learn some things about Japanese culture from the text, which I didn't really learn when I was taking Intermediate.

Well... having been through both JLPT2 lecturers, Kanai sensei is indeed not for people whose foundation is not that strong, or are slow learners, but you can opt to go to Iwata sensei's classes. She doesn't speak as fast (in fact, I found it quite slow) but she goes through each bunpo in detail to make sure you understand them. I have a friend who's taking the class with me, felt that Iwata sensei's classes are better for him (he stopped at Intermediate). I think it's up to your own pace of learning and preference. ^^

I found the bullet train speed which Kanai sensei talks, keeps me very focused in class. Because I have to pay 100% attention to keep up with what she's talking.

Kanai sensei's speed is also for those who wishes to score for their listening.

 

[iolanthe]

actually JLPT classes should be for ppl who already have foundation, from their normal classes like beginner, int, adv, etc. these classes focus much more on conversation, and u can learn extra stuff not in textbooks (depending on the material the teacher chooses). JLPT classes are to help u get that JLPT cert. thats why teachers have to go through the bunpo fast to cover the large amt of bunpo and vocab. without foundation, there's not much meaning to go for JLPT classes, even if u pass. well, unless u just want to get the cert.

and as for the teacher speaking fast, that is in fact a good thing. it helps u with your listening and understanding skills, coz when u listen to japanese speaking, outside the school, almost all of them speak much faster than teachers in schools. and in fact, some teachers slow down their talking speed in class, for the sake of students, which i think is not very helpful. even if you speak to japanese, most of them will slow down their speed for you

I totally agree with you and dimitri san that the speed at which our lecturers speak, improves our listening.