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a) これで = XXX で where XXX is the object / item that you [ or someone else ] use to do some action

->with this ~

e.g

ペンで書いてください
please write with a pen.

これ(e.g a pen)で書いてください
Please write with this(a pen)

Not bad explanation... More to improve... Maybe can become a teacher like ah keong? =)
 

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Let me attempt to explain [ I may not explain well enough ]


So としょかん で しんぶん  よみます [ or よんでいます ] translates => [ someone ] reads [ or reading ] newspaper in the library.

very very good explanation leh...
Think you mistype this particle?
I think maybe it should be を ... :D

maybe i am wrong... :D
 
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a) これで = XXX で where XXX is the object / item that you [ or someone else ] use to do some action

->with this ~

e.g

ペンで書いてください
please write with a pen.

これ(e.g a pen)で書いてください
Please write with this(a pen)

Not bad explanation... More to improve... Maybe can become a teacher like ah keong? =)

I no teacher leh... still student lah... :D
 

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Ah~ I haven't been here for a long time.. But I just want to say that I've started ele2 at Bunka! :D

First lesson was a total shock. The teacher simply said, "you learnt this, this and this in ele1. ... Test time!" We were so shock that we had to do a test on the first lesson... I'm really grateful for my good memory. :s13:

Looking forward to the rest of the lessons~ :D
 

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very very good explanation leh...
Think you mistype this particle?
I think maybe it should be を ... :D

maybe i am wrong... :D

Okay, let me try again.

としょかん  ペン  しんぶん  かきます [ or かいています ]

translates =>

[ someone ] writes or writing [ using / with ] a pen onto a newspaper in the library [ obviously an act of mischief, something I might have done when I was younger ]
 

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Ah~ I haven't been here for a long time.. But I just want to say that I've started ele2 at Bunka! :D

First lesson was a total shock. The teacher simply said, "you learnt this, this and this in ele1. ... Test time!" We were so shock that we had to do a test on the first lesson... I'm really grateful for my good memory. :s13:

Looking forward to the rest of the lessons~ :D

It happened to me also, and was very effective in shaking things up amongst those who have a "taking it easy" mentality.

By the way, all the stuff for BOTH Ele1 and Ele2 will be tested in BOTH written and oral.

Enjoy the ride...
 

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Let me try Qn 4... [ Feel free to make corrections ]


In all 3 cases *taking (a ) photo => しゃしん を* is not mentioned but is understood from context
[ using keyword とりました from とる ]


a) 山田さん を とりました translates => I took (a) photo(s) of Mr Yamada

[ *わたし* is omitted, as by default, if a 3rd party is not mentioned in earlier sentences, *わたし* is assumed to be the speaker of the sentence ]


b) 山田さん が とりました translates => Mr Yamada took (a) photo(s) of me

[ as わたし に is not mentioned, which is commonly omitted ]



c) 山田さん は とりました translates => Mr Yamada took (a) photo(s)

[ without specifiying who / what / where was / were the photo(s) about ]
 
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It happened to me also, and was very effective in shaking things up amongst those who have a "taking it easy" mentality.

By the way, all the stuff for BOTH Ele1 and Ele2 will be tested in BOTH written and oral.

Enjoy the ride...

Agreed. It made me realised that I cannot let my guard down. So it's constant revision all the way! :D
 

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Ah~ I haven't been here for a long time.. But I just want to say that I've started ele2 at Bunka! :D

First lesson was a total shock. The teacher simply said, "you learnt this, this and this in ele1. ... Test time!" We were so shock that we had to do a test on the first lesson... I'm really grateful for my good memory. :s13:

Looking forward to the rest of the lessons~ :D

all the best! :D
 

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Okay, let me try again.

としょかん  ペン  しんぶん  かきます [ or かいています ]

translates =>

[ someone ] writes or writing [ using / with ] a pen onto a newspaper in the library [ obviously an act of mischief, something I might have done when I was younger ]


hmm, think u purposely mistype again... :D

think should be:
としょかん で ペン で しんぶん  かきます [ or かいています ]

or maybe i am wrong... :D
 

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hmm, think u purposely mistype again... :D

think should be:
としょかん で ペン で しんぶん  かきます [ or かいています ]

or maybe i am wrong... :D



Hmm... *purposely mistype*, maybe I did...

If

reading a book = ほん を よみます

then

writing on a book = ほん に かきます

えっ ?

and

writes a book [ person writing is an author ] = ほん + ? + かきます
 
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Hmm... *purposely mistype*, maybe I did...

If

reading a book = ほん を よみます

then

writing on a book = ほん に かきます

えっ ?

and

writes a book [ person writing is an author ] = ほん + ? + かきます

sorry im a bit confused how come writing on a book = ほん に かきます
instead of ほん を かきます
haha
 

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sorry im a bit confused how come writing on a book = ほん に かきます
instead of ほん を かきます
haha

lemme try answering.. i may be wrong though. =x

ほん を かきます is writing a book; in ほん に かきます the book (ほん) is the "arrival point" of the "writing", so に is used in case, just like in the case of うち に はいる。"go in the house" , where the house is the 'arrival point' of the action of "going in"
 
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hon ni kakimasu
the ni used here is when a action is directed at or onto an object.
thus its writing ON a book

so in the case of a author writing a book..i feel that hon o kakimasu is much better?

correct me if im wrong >_<
 
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