learning japanese

[Vampireness]

haato89 - Word of mouth would suffice for me. I have a couple of contacts (my bf learnt japanese under this Taiwanese lady who did her masters in Osaka and I think another friend knows a tutor too) and perhaps dimitri_can who seems really helpful. Of course when the time comes I'll have to discuss this matter with my bf and any other friends who want to be in the same tuition group as well.

Ohh, Taiwanese lady teaching Japanese in Singapore, eh? That's interesting!
I seee! Yeah. How much would you have to pay, for a small group tuition?
To me, it's important that the language medium used is English.
I guess the Taiwanese teacher and dimitri_can use Mandarin too ( which bumblebee mentioned ), would be a plus for you.

Haha go try for N5 in July who knows you might pass! It's not terribly expensive

Ahah! I guess we'll see.
Not expensive, yeah . . . kind of but I don't like failing and I like to make sure I'm completely confident, feels a bit of a rush though, since July is so close, and registration ends in April, that's . . . like . . . ahhhh lol.

Can't remember the title =\ Aiya just look at the shelves with JLPT N5 assessment books...it'll be there...or at least you'll find a close substitute.

Now, I get why you mentioned, it's only S$15 with CD, it's cause it's in Chinese, I don't know nor do I speak Chinese lol. I was thinking, mannn that's TOOO good to be true lol.

I think dimitri answered this question in one of his previous posts as well. The pages on pronunciation are in Book 1 (Japanese ver) and not in Book 2. I didn't touch Book 1...went straight to Book 2 which is why I missed it.

I didn't see that. Ah, I get it now!!

dimitri_can -

Eh... which page are you referring to?

I was refering to page 8 C. 1, 2 etc. It seemed like any option could be the answer, especially for 2? My Katakana is very bad cause I skipped learning it lol.
Still looking through the pages . . . .

Don't worry about it. Just make sure if you ask them to open, bring the whole stack that you want to browse, then ask them to open. Don't open one book then later on ask them to open another book. =)

Thanks for letting me know!!

In case if you are looking for a private teacher, be warned that schools charge about $70-$80/hour.

I'd expect that to be the going rate, though . . .
Are private teachers, who aren't attached to schools cheaper?
If, it's individual private tuition, I believe the price would be the same.

The Asian version doesn't have a workbook. It's from the Japanese version.

I know.
I mentioned that I realised it after searching through the books.

I think you should check with more Japanese people... Maybe your friend is one who doesn't really care... If you want to learn Japanese, also must learn properly right.

I will, just cause I'm curious. But, while looking through the book, I saw the pronunciation and it seems natural to me, to pronounce that way without having to be taught.

Like, ni wa is ni WA, Hon HO n, na MA E, kinda like it's a given where you emphasize the words?

I saw the Osaka pronunciation, now that I didn't know, but I know they have another dialect. That was interesting to know. When most of us learn Japanese, we're introduced to the Tokyo standard Japanese so I'm not concerned on the Osaka part. I've spoken to people from Osaka and though they sound different, still understandable. I don't think it's improper.

About the Kino books getting expensive, well that doesn't sound good at all....since you said "getting", oh god if it continues to get more expensive than there really is no point in having it conveniently located here and having easy access...ugh!

The video above lol!! Didn't watch it but ....-shakes head- lols.

 

[dimitri_can]

I was refering to page 8 C. 1, 2 etc. It seemed like any option could be the answer? My Katakana is very bad cause I skipped learning it lol.
Still looking through the pages . . . .

Page 8 is meant to be conversation practice. You replace the 「イーです」 with 「サントス」

I'd expect that to be the going rate, though . . .
Are private teachers, who aren't attached to schools cheaper?
If, it's individual private tuition, I believe the price would be the same.

Private teachers who aren't attached to schools are cheaper, but of course, the qualifications will also be different.

Like, ni wa is ni WA, Hon HO n, na MA E, kinda like it's a given where you emphasize the words?

It's a bit different... See below. Some will go up, some will come down.

 

[haato89]

Now, I get why you mentioned, it's only S$15 with CD, it's cause it's in Chinese, I don't know nor do I speak Chinese lol. I was thinking, mannn that's TOOO good to be true lol.

Haha you don't need to read the chinese lol the paper itself is in Japanese I skipped the chinese instructions lol btw i don't think there are any english instructions in the actual jlpt paper

To me, it's important that the language medium used is English.
I guess the Taiwanese teacher and dimitri_can use Mandarin too ( which bumblebee mentioned ), would be a plus for you.

Lol I would prefer to learn Japanese in English though which is why I've been hesistant to join the Taiwanese lady

 

[dimitri_can]

Lol I would prefer to learn Japanese in English though which is why I've been hesistant to join the Taiwanese lady

u mean e Taiwanese lady use Chinese to teach? Lucky I use both English and Chinese, if not all my students will run away. Lol.

 

[haato89]

u mean e Taiwanese lady use Chinese to teach? Lucky I use both English and Chinese, if not all my students will run away. Lol.

Ya I know right I used a Taiwanese grammar book for N5 and it was quite painful. Ok la teaching Japanese isn't her main job la she's a taitai

 

[hoshiyume]

知らない->知らなかった
(cos now you know le...)

oops. i dont like the -た

increase by $10. ARGHHHHHHH

ooo didnt realise.. i only rmb the fee ends with $5

XasakuraX i found a lot of books online... minna, shin nihongo etc but i still went to buy my current textbooks. google is really ur friend

 

[hoshiyume]

Page 8 is meant to be conversation practice. You replace the 「イーです」 with 「サントス」



Private teachers who aren't attached to schools are cheaper, but of course, the qualifications will also be different.



It's a bit different... See below. Some will go up, some will come down.

my hana always forgot.... i can go from nose to flower

 

[dimitri_can]

since i don't have anyone asking for N2/N3 prep class, i'll change it to a beginner class..

Starting date: March 11th Sun 2-4pm
Cost: contact me for details
Max class size: 6
Location: town area
Free trial lesson available. (^_^)

I am short of 2 students. Anyone interested? =)

 

[NatureKeeper]

I am short of 2 students. Anyone interested? =)

wasted..quite interested...
but i am working on alternate weekends...
maybe next time...

 

[dimitri_can]

wasted..quite interested...
but i am working on alternate weekends...
maybe next time...

U can do private make-up class for the lessons you missed. (^_^)

No extra charges.

 

[friedfred]

Anyway, for those who wanna know...

Conversation Class
Estimated Starting Date: March 3rd Sat 9-11am
Cost: contact me for details
Max class size: 4
Location: town area


N1 prep class
Starting date: March 6th 7-9.10pm (every Tues/Thurs)
(10 mins break after every hour of lesson)
Cost: contact me for details
Max class size: 4
Location: town area
Aim: N2 score more than 130 in Jul , pass N1 in December
25% return of fees if fail N1


N2/N3 prep class
Starting date: March 10th Sun 12-3.30pm
(10 mins break after every hour of lesson)
Cost: contact me for details
Max class size: 6
Location: town area
Aim: Pass N3 in Jul and N2 in December
50% return of fees if fail N3 and 25% return of fees if fail N2.

Yo! What will you be doing for the conversational class and the N2/N3 prep class?

 

[dimitri_can]

N2/N3 prep class, currently nobody asking. i have changed to a beginner class. You might want to try the current normal class. Trial lesson available for normal class. The students who tried the trial lesson usually sign up after that.

For conversation class, we will start with pronunciation of words, then speaking of daily events using a conversation textbook topped with special notes, then move on to business japanese conversation speech and Osaka dialect (Skype session with a Osaka friend). This is a 1 year course. but i don't have anyone asking yet...

btw, 皆さんは「日本語」と「国語」の違いをご存知ですか。

 

[plutoplace]

N2/N3 prep class, currently nobody asking. i have changed to a beginner class. You might want to try the current normal class. Trial lesson available for normal class. The students who tried the trial lesson usually sign up after that.

For conversation class, we will start with pronunciation of words, then speaking of daily events using a conversation textbook topped with special notes, then move on to business japanese conversation speech and Osaka dialect (Skype session with a Osaka friend). This is a 1 year course. but i don't have anyone asking yet...

btw, 皆さんは「日本語」と「国語」の違いをご存知ですか。

[国語]ってば　国の言語、国の言葉という意味です。たとえば　韓国の国語は韓国語，米国の国語は英語です。

「日本語」は　日本の民族による言語である。つまり、日本語は　日本の[国語]である。

 

[dimitri_can]

残念ながら、それは私の求めた答えではありません。
try harder.

 

[plutoplace]

残念ながら、それは私の求めた答えではありません。
try harder.

おかしい。　国語の意味は　間違えないはずです。

まさか、国語じゃなくて、国語科と日本語の　違うところが　求めていますか。

教えてくださいませんか。

 

[dimitri_can]

＜笑＞答えは↓

国語と日本語は、似てはいますが別のものです。
日本国内で、日本人の両親の元で、生まれ育った子供は、
小学校に入る時すでに約5000の語彙を修得していると聞いたことがあります。
諸説あるにしても、多くの語彙を修得していることに間違いはありません。
多くの知識を持った子供たちが、学校に入学して、すでに乱雑に頭の中に入っている
知識を整理しながら、更に新しい知識を補充していくのが、国語です。
一方、日本以外の国で、日本人でない両親の元で育った子供、あるいは成人には、
日本語の知識が全くありません。この状態からから学ぶのが、日本語なのです。

日本人の目から見たら、実に簡単に思えることでも、外国人から見た場合、
とても難しいことが多々あります。
立場を変えて、私たちが例えば、馴染みの薄いアラビア語を勉強しようと思ったとき
どうであるかを考えれば、明白です。

小学校１年の国語の教科書は、とても難しいのです。
何年か前に見た記憶で書きますので、ちょっとあやふやですが、
最初のほうに、次の文がありました。
　　　　みえた　　みえた　　うみがみえた
この『みえた』の意味ですが、「海がみたいなぁ。まだかなぁ。」と期待していて、
その願望が叶ったということです。
日本人の子供には説明しなくても、この言葉の意味はわかります。
ところが、日本語学習者にとっては、
たとえ初級日本語をすでに300時間履修した場合でも、まだ学習してない項目です。
初級日本語では、『た型』は過去形、正確には動作が完了した状態であると学んでいます。
日本ですでに生活していて、日本語のシャワーを浴びていて、すんなり理解してしまう
学習者ももちろんあるでしょうけれど、結構難しいかもしれません。
難しいだろうという認識に立って、指導するのが日本語教育なのだと思っています。

国語と日本語は、学習者が違うのですから、当然内容も違うものなのです。

plutoplaceさんは多分日本語を勉強されていますが、こちらは両方（国語と日本語）を勉強しております。 Notice why i put て＋います、is because i am only in my 6th year for 国語. My students also learn both from me. LOL

 

[plutoplace]

＜笑＞答えは↓

国語と日本語は、似てはいますが別のものです。
日本国内で、日本人の両親の元で、生まれ育った子供は、
小学校に入る時すでに約5000の語彙を修得していると聞いたことがあります。
諸説あるにしても、多くの語彙を修得していることに間違いはありません。
多くの知識を持った子供たちが、学校に入学して、すでに乱雑に頭の中に入っている
知識を整理しながら、更に新しい知識を補充していくのが、国語です。
一方、日本以外の国で、日本人でない両親の元で育った子供、あるいは成人には、
日本語の知識が全くありません。この状態からから学ぶのが、日本語なのです。

日本人の目から見たら、実に簡単に思えることでも、外国人から見た場合、
とても難しいことが多々あります。
立場を変えて、私たちが例えば、馴染みの薄いアラビア語を勉強しようと思ったとき
どうであるかを考えれば、明白です。

小学校１年の国語の教科書は、とても難しいのです。
何年か前に見た記憶で書きますので、ちょっとあやふやですが、
最初のほうに、次の文がありました。
　　　　みえた　　みえた　　うみがみえた
この『みえた』の意味ですが、「海がみたいなぁ。まだかなぁ。」と期待していて、
その願望が叶ったということです。
日本人の子供には説明しなくても、この言葉の意味はわかります。
ところが、日本語学習者にとっては、
たとえ初級日本語をすでに300時間履修した場合でも、まだ学習してない項目です。
初級日本語では、『た型』は過去形、正確には動作が完了した状態であると学んでいます。
日本ですでに生活していて、日本語のシャワーを浴びていて、すんなり理解してしまう
学習者ももちろんあるでしょうけれど、結構難しいかもしれません。
難しいだろうという認識に立って、指導するのが日本語教育なのだと思っています。

国語と日本語は、学習者が違うのですから、当然内容も違うものなのです。

plutoplaceさんは多分日本語を勉強されていますが、こちらは両方（国語と日本語）を勉強しております。 Notice why i put て＋います、is because i am only in my 6th year for 国語.

答えは　こんなに　長いと　思えません。　、ありがとうございます。

でもね、Dimitri san はずるいです。一般の日本語の学習者が　その差を　分かっているはずないでしょう。　

Dimitri san　はどうして　日本語に　こんなに興味をもっていますか。 国語まで　専攻しています。

 

[dimitri_can]

i was kinda lucky to have met a very good teacher who taught me that. She has went back to Japan, but we still keep in touch. Everytime when i go Japan, i will try my best to meet her...

I guess if it's not my foundation in 国語, i won't have passed N1.

Also, along the way, i met other very good teachers as well. I have a total of 7 teachers. 1 of them is from Nagoya, super good in her Business Japanese and she's a very interesting lady.

 

[plutoplace]

i was kinda lucky to have met a very good teacher who taught me that. She has went back to Japan, but we still keep in touch. Everytime when i go Japan, i will try my best to meet her...

I guess if it's not my foundation in 国語, i won't have passed N1.

Also, along the way, i met other very good teachers as well. I have a total of 7 teachers. 1 of them is from Nagoya, super good in her Business Japanese and she's a very interesting lady.

良い先生があったこそ、自分にも良い先生になりたい。

良い先生になるために、自分がもっと頑張たい。

いいね。　

 

[dimitri_can]

Hi, u need to at least 1-2 years of Japanese or at least completed Minna no Nihongo 1-1 and 1-2. I will start from e start, learning pronunciation, then using 国語(kokugo) in my lessons to help you to learn how to form sentences efficiently.

I will sort you guys out according to your speaking level. =)

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