learning japanese

[unfinished07]

ok thanks

 

[Spladox]

i havent studied at alexandra branch before so cant comment. heard the sensei quite ok.

i might start a new class on Thurs night in Feb, if u all interested can visit my webbie. lol
classes are held in town/Novena

http://dimitri2012.wordpress.com

Alamak.. a little far for me the hougang branch hougang japanese school any good? Extremely near for me, thinking of signing up for their e1

 

[dimitri_can]

Ok. But not all the teachers there are good.
My senior, Ken Ho, teaches there. He is good, but u have to work v hard.

 

[Initiatives]

hi all,

just would like some suggestions. I am thinking of learning Japanese. I have total zero background in Japanese language before.

Currently, I see that Bunka and inlingual's elementary courses are both registered with WDA, meaning that I can utilize my 500 dollars skills futures credits.

Wonder which is a better school, if there are any difference? Thanks!

 

[dimitri_can]

check with inlingual if they r using Minna no nihongo? if yes, then it would be better

 

[true form]

I wonder if usually sign up with a school basic class will continue all the way? Or let's say hougang school can hop to ikoma or bunka and vice versa, say after first few basic courses?

 

[zhirong]

I wonder if usually sign up with a school basic class will continue all the way? Or let's say hougang school can hop to ikoma or bunka and vice versa, say after first few basic courses?

Possible but it will be better if they are using the same textbook (e.g minna no nihongo). You can let the sensei know which chapter you are at so they can place you in the appropriate class.

 

[true form]

Possible but it will be better if they are using the same textbook (e.g minna no nihongo). You can let the sensei know which chapter you are at so they can place you in the appropriate class.

wow thank you for fast response, so the schools in SG use the text book are okay right. Like can change school in future if needed.

I think this minna no nihongo is popular textbook used by Ikoma.

I also saw Genki is popular but not sure any school uses here.

Any idea if the text book used by Hougang Jap School is okay?

"we use NIHONGO NO KISO (Previous Version of SHIN NIHONGO NO KISO) "- We give you the Roumaji Version of this textbook and English Translation, so you can study Japanese without difficulties.

Is it good, dunno why I keep reading not good to learn romanji, this one not sure what they meant, is learning hiragana/katakana but with translation to help learning?

 

[Ah_keong]

wow thank you for fast response, so the schools in SG use the text book are okay right. Like can change school in future if needed.

I think this minna no nihongo is popular textbook used by Ikoma.

I also saw Genki is popular but not sure any school uses here.

Any idea if the text book used by Hougang Jap School is okay?

"we use NIHONGO NO KISO (Previous Version of SHIN NIHONGO NO KISO) "- We give you the Roumaji Version of this textbook and English Translation, so you can study Japanese without difficulties.

Is it good, dunno why I keep reading not good to learn romanji, this one not sure what they meant, is learning hiragana/katakana but with translation to help learning?

I would not advice you to learn romanji as from my past experience, learners tend to lean and rely on it. In my opinion, it would be good to start drilling hiragana/katakana from day one.

Good Luck!

 

[unfinished07]

wow thank you for fast response, so the schools in SG use the text book are okay right. Like can change school in future if needed.

I think this minna no nihongo is popular textbook used by Ikoma.

I also saw Genki is popular but not sure any school uses here.

Any idea if the text book used by Hougang Jap School is okay?

"we use NIHONGO NO KISO (Previous Version of SHIN NIHONGO NO KISO) "- We give you the Roumaji Version of this textbook and English Translation, so you can study Japanese without difficulties.

Is it good, dunno why I keep reading not good to learn romanji, this one not sure what they meant, is learning hiragana/katakana but with translation to help learning?

simple reason. because no one uses romaji when using actually using japanese. it's only used by some beginners so that its easier for them to start learning.
when you really start to use japanese, and u find that you can't find romaji anywhere, u realise all the time spent on learning romaji is wasted, and then it's back to square one.

 

[natsuoto]

hey 皆さんこんにちは。I know one of the rules to check if a verb is regular one or two is to check its dictionary kei, if いる と える、it is regular 2. But if I'm looking at a a verb in its ます kei, how do you do tell if it's 1 or 2 omg. The rule says look at its ない形, regular 1 has a final vowel a, like that all the verbs belong to regular 1 omg?!

 

[zhirong]

hey 皆さんこんにちは。I know one of the rules to check if a verb is regular one or two is to check its dictionary kei, if いる と える、it is regular 2. But if I'm looking at a a verb in its ます kei, how do you do tell if it's 1 or 2 omg. The rule says look at its ない形, regular 1 has a final vowel a, like that all the verbs belong to regular 1 omg?!

Never heard of this way to find out which is class 1 and 2 but I kinda figure what it means.
It means the end vowel before nai. For example nomanai is class 1 while minai is class 2.

 

[natsuoto]

Never heard of this way to find out which is class 1 and 2 but I kinda figure what it means.
It means the end vowel before nai. For example nomanai is class 1 while minai is class 2.

Yup this rule is from the Japanese for busy people 2 textbook, but not sure if it's an official rule. I guess the only official rule is to look at its dictionary form, but as you know we all start from masu kei. I was looking at this exercise to identify regular 1 and 2 verbs in their masu kei, is it possible to do so?

 

[zhirong]

Yup this rule is from the Japanese for busy people 2 textbook, but not sure if it's an official rule. I guess the only official rule is to look at its dictionary form, but as you know we all start from masu kei. I was looking at this exercise to identify regular 1 and 2 verbs in their masu kei, is it possible to do so?

For masu form, generally verbs that end with e are class 2 and those that end with i are class 1. However there are exceptions like mimasu which is a class 2. What you do is that you have to memorise these exceptions.

E.g
tabEmasu is class 2
nomImasu is class 1

Exception
abImasu is class 2
mImasu is class 2
kImasu (to wear) is class 2
etc....

 

[Ah_keong]

hey 皆さんこんにちは。I know one of the rules to check if a verb is regular one or two is to check its dictionary kei, if いる と える、it is regular 2. But if I'm looking at a a verb in its ます kei, how do you do tell if it's 1 or 2 omg. The rule says look at its ない形, regular 1 has a final vowel a, like that all the verbs belong to regular 1 omg?!

when you look at the verb conjugation, you should be able to recognize the dictionary[dictionary kei]/basic/root form depending which textbooks you are familiar with.

There are two kinds of regular verb in Japanese. One kind, "consonant stem", "group I" or, in Japanese, godan verbs, conjugates such that the rightmost unchanging element is a consonant. For example, (1)iku (to go) conjugates as (2)ikeru, (3)ikinasai, (4)ikanai, (5)ikou. The other group, "vowel stem", "group II", or, in Japanese, ichidan verbs, conjugates such that the rightmost unchanging element is a vowel. For example, taberu (to eat) conjugates as taberareru, tabenasai, tabenai, tabeyou

Japanese verbs are divided into three groups based on the last syllable of the basic (dictionary) form. You need to know which group a verb belongs to in order to produce the conjugated forms.

Grouping rules:


Group II:

Verbs in group II end with the syllable ru (る), with the preceding syllable containing the vowels e or i. Some exceptions are kaeru (帰る "return home"), hashiru (走る "run"), kiru (切る "cut"), iru (要る, "need"), and hairu (入る "enter").


Group I:

Verbs in group I end with syllables ku (く), gu (ぐ), su (す), mu (む), nu (ぬ), bu (ぶ), u (う), tsu (つ), or ru (る). Verbs ending in ru (る) contain the vowels u, o or a in the preceding syllable. Some exceptions are kaeru (帰る "return home"), hashiru (走る "run"), kiru (切る "cut"), iru (要る, "need"), and hairu (入る "enter").


Group III (Irregular):

Verbs in group 3 are suru (する "do") or kuru (くる "come").

Good Luck

 

[natsuoto]

Ahh ありがとうございました 先輩たち! I will try out tonight

 

[Ah_keong]

You are using a book that I use also!
Japanese for busy people 2 textbook

 

[Yevin227]

when you look at the verb conjugation, you should be able to recognize the dictionary[dictionary kei]/basic/root form depending which textbooks you are familiar with.

There are two kinds of regular verb in Japanese. One kind, "consonant stem", "group I" or, in Japanese, godan verbs, conjugates such that the rightmost unchanging element is a consonant. For example, (1)iku (to go) conjugates as (2)ikeru, (3)ikinasai, (4)ikanai, (5)ikou. The other group, "vowel stem", "group II", or, in Japanese, ichidan verbs, conjugates such that the rightmost unchanging element is a vowel. For example, taberu (to eat) conjugates as taberareru, tabenasai, tabenai, tabeyou

Japanese verbs are divided into three groups based on the last syllable of the basic (dictionary) form. You need to know which group a verb belongs to in order to produce the conjugated forms.

Grouping rules:


Group II:

Verbs in group II end with the syllable ru (る), with the preceding syllable containing the vowels e or i. Some exceptions are kaeru (帰る "return home"), hashiru (走る "run"), kiru (切る "cut"), iru (要る, "need"), and hairu (入る "enter").


Group I:

Verbs in group I end with syllables ku (く), gu (ぐ), su (す), mu (む), nu (ぬ), bu (ぶ), u (う), tsu (つ), or ru (る). Verbs ending in ru (る) contain the vowels u, o or a in the preceding syllable. Some exceptions are kaeru (帰る "return home"), hashiru (走る "run"), kiru (切る "cut"), iru (要る, "need"), and hairu (入る "enter").


Group III (Irregular):

Verbs in group 3 are suru (する "do") or kuru (くる "come").

Good Luck

This is very useful!

Thank you!

Always confused at how to identify verbs by its grouping other than checking the dictionary. (Group 1/2)

 

[dimitri_can]

A bit late, but hope this is useful.

漢: Kanji
平: Hiragana
片仮名: Katakana

Group 1 verbs: The ます-stem ends with a -sound


Group 2 verbs: The ます-stem ends with a [e]-sound. For special cases like 見ます,借ります, できます、起きます、降ります、浴びます、います, just memorize.


Group 3:

 

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