Lesson learnt from SMRT - Engineers have no future!

[samuelchin]

Yup, being an engineer in Singapore has no future!

After many years of hard study and long hours of sacrifice as far as family life is concerned, Singapore 'upper-class' people strongly believed that non engineering background person could manage SMRT. That time, many people had doubted that woman but to no avail. According to the report, it hinted that many mid level and experienced engineers left SMRT during her era.

Why? Cos local engineers are not valued in Singapore. Any good things(profitability) are the effort of non engineering people and the bad things always belong to the engineers. That ft woman is still earning big bucks in another company while the loyal engineers and technical staff are solving the ****s created...and in the near future I guess the commuters would have to pay for her 'great' leadership.

Tell me... what is the point of being an engineer in Singapore when a non engineer can take over the helm of an engineering company with the support of LTA? Are we telling our younger generation that one can be a publicly well known lousy leader of a company and still be rich and successful? One thing is certain.. I would never ask my children to be an engineer!

 

[hoks]

No need learn from smrt la, engrs hv all along been dirt cheap in sg.

 

[kyma]

AFAIK, engineers are meant to be employees, while businessmen are meant to employ the engineers to work hard for them to make more $$$.

 

[Novicelim]

Engineer are employed to take the flak. CEO and management team are there with one focus, that is : making money for the company.

The worst engineering job is maintenance. When the machine operates well, it is because the buyer, management and their consultant are prudent, they bought a good machine, but if the machine failed, it is because the maintenance wasn't up to mark. And in a profit driven public listed company, you have COO and CFO who are non engineering people, who will decide the amount to spend on maintenance, not based on engineering requirement, but rather the amount set aside after profit margin it met.

 

[cherry6]

Worker's party- labour MPs filling the gap where NTUC has failed.

Yup, being an engineer in Singapore has no future!

After many years of hard study and long hours of sacrifice as far as family life is concerned, Singapore 'upper-class' people strongly believed that non engineering background person could manage SMRT. That time, many people had doubted that woman but to no avail. According to the report, it hinted that many mid level and experienced engineers left SMRT during her era.

Why? Cos local engineers are not valued in Singapore. Any good things(profitability) are the effort of non engineering people and the bad things always belong to the engineers. That ft woman is still earning big bucks in another company while the loyal engineers and technical staff are solving the ****s created...and in the near future I guess the commuters would have to pay for her 'great' leadership.

Tell me... what is the point of being an engineer in Singapore when a non engineer can take over the helm of an engineering company with the support of LTA? Are we telling our younger generation that one can be a publicly well known lousy leader of a company and still be rich and successful? One thing is certain.. I would never ask my children to be an engineer!

Nothin new, in SG, Lawyers, accountant, MNC, bankers, politicians get all the $$$ bc they know how to manipulate engineers (FT/ otherwise) to 'work for free'.
Singapore is thus in my mind (like many other 1st world countries) plagued by an ultra-capitalist mentality.

No wonder the worker's party GRC team has been voted into parliament... they are the new 'labour MPs' filling the gap where NTUC failed.

Without the skewed GRC system of elections and the PA that PAP depends significantly to win votes at elections, PAP wouldn't have the current majority in parl. that it currently has.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Yup, being an engineer in Singapore has no future!

After many years of hard study and long hours of sacrifice as far as family life is concerned, Singapore 'upper-class' people strongly believed that non engineering background person could manage SMRT. That time, many people had doubted that woman but to no avail. According to the report, it hinted that many mid level and experienced engineers left SMRT during her era.

Why? Cos local engineers are not valued in Singapore. Any good things(profitability) are the effort of non engineering people and the bad things always belong to the engineers. That ft woman is still earning big bucks in another company while the loyal engineers and technical staff are solving the ****s created...and in the near future I guess the commuters would have to pay for her 'great' leadership.

Tell me... what is the point of being an engineer in Singapore when a non engineer can take over the helm of an engineering company with the support of LTA? Are we telling our younger generation that one can be a publicly well known lousy leader of a company and still be rich and successful? One thing is certain.. I would never ask my children to be an engineer!

well, as long as u r in the cost centre. u will never be the highlight since u dun generate profit.

it doesnt apply to engineers only. accountants, IT support personnel, logistic supports,doctors, etc also hv the same issue.

when theres no fraudulent scam, no one thanked the accountants/auditors.
when theres no network failure, no one thanked the IT personnel.
when goods arrived on time, no one thanked the logistic team.
when no one dies, no one thanked the doc too.
,etc,etc.

its a thankless job as long as u r in the cost centre.

it could be the board who has been pressuring her to increase profit too
u never know who is the wrong end.

anyway, u can tell ur children to be engineer in future.

 

[xdivider]

well, as long as u r in the cost centre. u will never be the highlight since u dun generate profit.

it doesnt apply to engineers only. accountants, IT support personnel, logistic supports,doctors, etc also hv the same issue.

when theres no fraudulent scam, no one thanked the accountants/auditors.
when theres no network failure, no one thanked the IT personnel.
when goods arrived on time, no one thanked the logistic team.
when no one dies, no one thanked the doc too.
,etc,etc.

its a thankless job as long as u r in the cost centre.

it could be the board who has been pressuring her to increase profit too
u never know who is the wrong end.

anyway, u can tell ur children to be engineer in future.

Look at her background. Her good fren brought her on board to turn SMRT into a islandwide interlinked retail network. It was never about running the system efficiently...........

 

[djchris]

Yup, being an engineer in Singapore has no future!

After many years of hard study and long hours of sacrifice as far as family life is concerned, Singapore 'upper-class' people strongly believed that non engineering background person could manage SMRT. That time, many people had doubted that woman but to no avail. According to the report, it hinted that many mid level and experienced engineers left SMRT during her era.

Why? Cos local engineers are not valued in Singapore. Any good things(profitability) are the effort of non engineering people and the bad things always belong to the engineers. That ft woman is still earning big bucks in another company while the loyal engineers and technical staff are solving the ****s created...and in the near future I guess the commuters would have to pay for her 'great' leadership.

Tell me... what is the point of being an engineer in Singapore when a non engineer can take over the helm of an engineering company with the support of LTA? Are we telling our younger generation that one can be a publicly well known lousy leader of a company and still be rich and successful? One thing is certain.. I would never ask my children to be an engineer!

Quote for truth..

 

[Jarlaxle]

Look at her background. Her good fren brought her on board to turn SMRT into a islandwide interlinked retail network. It was never about running the system efficiently...........

at the time of her appointment, it is reasonable.
in fact, i still think its reasonable now.

the idea is that the retail profit will support the operating cost.

however, she pushed for more profit by reducing maintainance.
which is the reason for the breakdown.

being retail centric is fine and good use of space.

 

[Ah_keong]

singapore engineer = white collar coolie

 

[xdivider]

at the time of her appointment, it is reasonable.
in fact, i still think its reasonable now.

the idea is that the retail profit will support the operating cost.

however, she pushed for more profit by reducing maintainance.
which is the reason for the breakdown.

being retail centric is fine and good use of space.

if i remembered reading the 5 yrs annual report. She kept maintenance at 10%. Kinda ludicrous when you consider things break down over time, esp 10 yr old stuff..............

 

[Inix]

Its nothing to do with Engineers. Its just the fact that cost centers will not be acknowledged.

 

[tekster]

So who here after kpkb, still continues to be an engineer?

 

[Novicelim]

They do acknowledge cost centre, if you want spotlight while in cost centre, just blow the budget, if you have the authority and opportunity. The whole profit management team will definitely grant you special attention..

 

[Jarlaxle]

They do acknowledge cost centre, if you want spotlight while in cost centre, just blow the budget, if you have the authority and opportunity. The whole profit management team will definitely grant you special attention..

They do acknowledge profit centre, if you want spotlight while in profit centre, just blow the budget, if you have the authority and opportunity. The whole profit management team will definitely grant you special attention..

the same can be said for profit centre wat

anyway, pretty statement... with little take away lol

 

[Jarlaxle]

So who here after kpkb, still continues to be an engineer?

when u r already working as an engineer for 5 to 10 yrs or more.
wat job u want to switch w/o lowering your pay ??

unless u hv no financial commitment.
u still hv to continue as an engineer right?

leap of faith to change industry its not a luxury for everyone.

lol i kaopei about manufacturing industry but im still in it!
w00t

(not engineer)

 

[Inix]

So who here after kpkb, still continues to be an engineer?

I'm still an engineer. But I recognise that being a cost center have no value, so I'm a revenue based engineer for a long long time

 

[kyma]

Are you a sales engineer? Though I do not know what they do, but based on its title, I guess they are profit centers.

 

[[[ForeverAlone]]]

Coporation greed ~ is one main reason ~

Wages ~


you can see the trend ~

in poly those students study in engineering courses in the end will choose to study business or management courses in Uni ~


is that their "interest" nope~

the society in here ,

they also follow the trend of the industries ~


because no matter what business and management courses will stay longer ~

that why they come out courses mixture of marketing or management cum engineering ~

well another reason cheap influx of foreigner engineers from india etc ~

 

[Novicelim]

They do acknowledge profit centre, if you want spotlight while in profit centre, just blow the budget, if you have the authority and opportunity. The whole profit management team will definitely grant you special attention..

the same can be said for profit centre wat

anyway, pretty statement... with little take away lol

Ha, ha, thought profit centre focus is more on revenue, their balance sheet, whether final figures red or black, with or without parenthesis, whereas cost centre is a one-way, no return expenditure.. once blown unlikely recoverable.

Anyway, bankers, lawyers and accountants are known to be able to retire young comfortably. Engineer? Worked past their retirement age, or die young..