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is this pc price ok from invaderpc? or there is better specs with better pricing? pls recommend.

MASTER MK3 | R7 5700X + RTX4070

SGD $ 1,525.00​


Specifications:
- IM5700X4070-WH19
- AMD RYZEN 7 5700X 3.4GHz 8CORE/16THREAD
- ASUS PRIME B550M-A WIFI II AX ARGB
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 ARGB
- KINGSTON FURY BEAST RGB 3600MHz 16GB(8GBx2) CL17
- ASUS DUAL RTX4070 12GB GDDR6X
- WD BLACK SN770 1TB GEN4
- SILVERSTONE ET750 750W 80+ GOLD
- COOLER MASTER CMP 320 CASING (3 ARGB FANS)
 

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is this pc price ok from invaderpc? or there is better specs with better pricing? pls recommend.

MASTER MK3 | R7 5700X + RTX4070

SGD $ 1,525.00​

id opt for their 7600 + 4070 build for $200 more, u get current gen am5 and ddr5 for a small premium which will go a long way in ensuring the longevity of the system (remember that the zen3 debuted almost 3 years ago by now). regardless of which way u go, suggest u contact them and replace the psu and cpu cooler to better ones like the asus rog strix 750w and id cooling se224xts/thermalright peerless assassin 120 respectively.
 

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id opt for their 7600 + 4070 build for $200 more, u get current gen am5 and ddr5 for a small premium which will go a long way in ensuring the longevity of the system (remember that the zen3 debuted almost 3 years ago by now). regardless of which way u go, suggest u contact them and replace the psu and cpu cooler to better ones like the asus rog strix 750w and id cooling se224xts/thermalright peerless assassin 120 respectively.
Do you mean this one? The default PSU and CPU cooler not good enough ah?

MASTER MK3 | R5 7600 + RTX4070

SGD $ 1,660.00​


Specifications:
- IM76004070-WH20
- AMD RYZEN 5 7600 3.8GHz 6CORE/12THREAD
- ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI AX ARGB
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 ARGB
- KINGSTON FURY BEAST RGB 5600MHz 16GB(8GBx2) CL36 AMD EXPO
- ASUS DUAL RTX4070 12GB GDDR6X
- WD BLACK SN770 1TB GEN4
- SILVERSTONE ET750 750W 80+ GOLD
- COOLER MASTER CMP 320 CASING (3 ARGB FANS)
 

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Do you mean this one?

MASTER MK3 | R5 7600 + RTX4070

SGD $ 1,660.00​

oh i thought it was $1720 but this is cheaper, which is a welcome surprise. looks like the only difference between this and the $1720 build is the case, so if u were already ok with the original 5700x build with the cmp320 this build is a better choice and imo well worth the premium.
The default PSU and CPU cooler not good enough ah?
the et750 is a very basic psu and u should generally not skimp on psu if u can help it, which is certainly the case at this price tier; according to dynacore (which is invaderpc sister coy) price list the rog strix one i recommended is a $60 top up but u get a much higher quality psu with more than 3x the warranty length, and should serve u better for longer. the cpu cooler is decent and certainly adequate for the 7600 but is a very outdated model that is trumped by newer cheaper coolers like the se224xts.
 

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@NightRaven49 is this specs good compared to invaderpc MASTER MK3 | R5 7600 + RTX4070 ?
this model "level 5x amd" from aftershock. $1665. (looking for better specs pricing and i dont need rgb lights)

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Processor
AFTERSHOCK M42 Frost Cooling
Gigabyte A620M H + AX WiFi
MSI RTX 4070 Ventus 2X OC 12GB
16GB Patriot SL Sig DDR5 5600MHz (8x2)
1TB Lexar NM790 Gen4 7400mb/s SSD
750W FSP Hydro GD2 80+ GOLD
 
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Is this system build for gaming? If yes I would suggest x3d cpu instead be it zen 3 or zen 4 your choice.

4070 performance is close to 3080 and I can play lots of title with good fps @1440p (DLSS if needed) without the need to upgrade in another 3 to 5 years.

Upon time later due for upgrade most of the current zen 4 hardware would drop in prices.
 

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@NightRaven49 is this specs good compared to invaderpc MASTER MK3 | R5 7600 + RTX4070 ?
this model "level 5x amd" from aftershock. $1665. (looking for better specs pricing and i dont need rgb lights)

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Processor
AFTERSHOCK M42 Frost Cooling
Gigabyte A620M H + AX WiFi
MSI RTX 4070 Ventus 2X OC 12GB
16GB Patriot SL Sig DDR5 5600MHz (8x2)
1TB Lexar NM790 Gen4 7400mb/s SSD
750W FSP Hydro GD2 80+ GOLD
nope worse. the as build is $5 more but u get a worse mobo and psu, nothing is significantly better than the invaderpc build and u lose the ability to upgrade anything. id stick to invaderpc for this one, especially since u get actual distro warranty which matters for parts with longer than 3y (eg ram, ssd, psu).
Is this system build for gaming? If yes I would suggest x3d cpu instead be it zen 3 or zen 4 your choice.
7800x3d is priced too high to be worth it locally, in many cases a 13700 with a decent b760 ddr5 board will come close for a significant saving. 5800x3d is also a bit overpriced, u can get a 7600 with a b650 for the price of a 5800x3d + b550 combo which should perform similarly but with the added bonus of am5 and ddr5 support.
 

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7800x3d is priced too high to be worth it locally, in many cases a 13700 with a decent b760 ddr5 board will come close for a significant saving. 5800x3d is also a bit overpriced, u can get a 7600 with a b650 for the price of a 5800x3d + b550 combo which should perform similarly but with the added bonus of am5 and ddr5 support.
May I know normally you reference to which performance benchmark? I can share mine data if I have similar games for reference too from local system and room temp 29c-31c performance perspective include the HWinfo data.
 

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May I know normally you reference to which performance benchmark?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/19.htmlhttps://www.techspot.com/review/2700-ryzen-7800x3d-vs-core-i7-13700k/not many reviews out there of the non k 13700, but it is still rpl with negligibly lower boost clocks (unlike some 13th gen silicon which is rebranded adl with smaller caches). it offers ~90% the performance of the 7800x3d on average at 80% of the cost. and that is when ur gaming at 1080p which chances are u probably arent when ur spending this much on ur pc, so the margin shrinks dramatically to basically nothing as u up the resolution and graphical settings. sure there are games that love 3d vcache and if u play one of these games a case can be made for opting for x3d, but in general the 13700 is the better value buy imo even before considering its significantly better productivity performance.
 

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Thanks. Is the Asus ROG Strix 750W the most worthwhile choice?

Its the most logical choice
Because only it and Seasonic Vertex have 10yrs warranty, both corsairs and MSI only have 7 years
Other than the MSI, you are paying extra for Seasonic and Corsair for the ATX3.0, which your RTX 4070 doesnt need

In addition ask them to change the cpu cooler to either Thermalright PA120 SE/non-SE or PS120 SE

Same for the ram as well, ask them to topup to 32gb

These 3 parts, psu/cooler/ram, you can bring over to your next rig as well, if you upgrading every 2-4years, so its worth it to topup to get quality ones now
 

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Ought to build one yourself.

Regardless, go with the Invader one. More well-rounded with higher quality parts. Switch out the cooler and PSU if you prefer. Upgrade the RAM to 32GB.
i tot of building one. if i diy, how much i can save with the same specs? $200-$300?
 

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Is the Asus ROG Strix 750W the most worthwhile choice?
it is one of the cheaper options for an established top tier psu. the a750gl might be okay too, but ive not seen any reviews of it so better to err on the side of caution.
Ought to build one yourself.
i tot of building one. if i diy, how much i can save with the same specs? $200-$300?
invaderpc has quite competitive prices. if u diy the 7600 + 4070 invaderpc build with dynacore price list:
r5 7600 + tuf b650m - 534
hyper 212 spectrum v3 - 30
kingston fury 2x 8gb 5600c36 - 119
1tb sn770 - 69
asus 4070 - not listed but ballpark 900
et750g - 90
cmp320 - 73
total $1815, so going invaderpc is actually cheaper. u top up for better psu, ram and cooler as suggested by rockarolla (which are good suggestions) probably still cheaper.
 

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it is one of the cheaper options for an established top tier psu. the a750gl might be okay too, but ive not seen any reviews of it so better to err on the side of caution.


invaderpc has quite competitive prices. if u diy the 7600 + 4070 invaderpc build with dynacore price list:
r5 7600 + tuf b650m - 534
hyper 212 spectrum v3 - 30
kingston fury 2x 8gb 5600c36 - 119
1tb sn770 - 69
asus 4070 - not listed but ballpark 900
et750g - 90
cmp320 - 73
total $1815, so going invaderpc is actually cheaper. u top up for better psu, ram and cooler as suggested by rockarolla (which are good suggestions) probably still cheaper.
yes, will upgrade the psu and cooler for sure. but is 32gb ram necessary? mainly for gaming, 16gb ram not enough?
 

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is 32gb ram necessary? mainly for gaming, 16gb ram not enough?
16gb is generally enough, but as games become more demanding there are already games that benefit from more ram. ddr5 32gb kits are very affordable now, its just a small $30 top up (check with invaderpc see if can change to gskill flare x5 5600c36 kit for this price delta over the default kingston kit) to ensure that u wont have to worry about ram usage for the lifetime of the pc. another thing i noted is that if u have 32gb, windows doesnt need to do paging.
 

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it is one of the cheaper options for an established top tier psu. the a750gl might be okay too, but ive not seen any reviews of it so better to err on the side of caution.


invaderpc has quite competitive prices. if u diy the 7600 + 4070 invaderpc build with dynacore price list:
r5 7600 + tuf b650m - 534
hyper 212 spectrum v3 - 30
kingston fury 2x 8gb 5600c36 - 119
1tb sn770 - 69
asus 4070 - not listed but ballpark 900
et750g - 90
cmp320 - 73
total $1815, so going invaderpc is actually cheaper. u top up for better psu, ram and cooler as suggested by rockarolla (which are good suggestions) probably still cheaper.
I was focused on aftershock as they were better known, was only recently was made aware of InvaderPC via this forum, and very pleasantly surprised to see they provide better value than aftershock.

All along, I had the impression that aftershock ready to ship PCs were unbeatable in value.
 

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/19.htmlhttps://www.techspot.com/review/2700-ryzen-7800x3d-vs-core-i7-13700k/not many reviews out there of the non k 13700, but it is still rpl with negligibly lower boost clocks (unlike some 13th gen silicon which is rebranded adl with smaller caches). it offers ~90% the performance of the 7800x3d on average at 80% of the cost. and that is when ur gaming at 1080p which chances are u probably arent when ur spending this much on ur pc, so the margin shrinks dramatically to basically nothing as u up the resolution and graphical settings. sure there are games that love 3d vcache and if u play one of these games a case can be made for opting for x3d, but in general the 13700 is the better value buy imo even before considering its significantly better productivity performance.
Many thanks. those are system pairing with 4090 test, and below is my ordinary gaming benchmark with 3080 / expected 4070 gaming benchmarks in 1440p native resolution High setting native without DLSS upscaling:

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HZD
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HWiNFO testing all these games: 5800x3d no clock stretching
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Hi, Sorry to hijack this thread.

But I was thinking of getting a PC from invaderPC too (same as TS) and the model is quite similar to TS.

Wondering if which model is a better choice? Or perhaps there are even other models I can consider?

Thank you!

Red words are those I am upgrading to.

MASTER MK3 | R5 7600 + RTX4070

SGD $2,248.00 (price in inclusive of Windows 11 OEM)​

Specifications:
- IM76004070-WH20
- AMD RYZEN 5 7600 3.8GHz 6CORE/12THREAD
- ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI AX ARGB
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 ARGB
- KINGSTON FURY BEAST RGB 5600MHz 16GB(8GBx2) CL36 AMD EXPO
==> G.SKILL TRIDENT Z5 NEO RGB 6000MHZ 16GBX2 32GB CL32 (+$115)
- ASUS DUAL RTX4070 12GB GDDR6X
- WD BLACK SN770 1TB GEN4
==> SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB 7000MB/S GEN4 NVME M.2 (+$254)
- SILVERSTONE ET750 750W 80+ GOLD
==> ASUS ROG STRIX 750-750W GOLD FULLY MODULAR (+$70)
- COOLER MASTER CMP 320 CASING (3 ARGB FANS)

Original price = $1,660
Windows 11 = $149
Upgrades = $$439

Total = $ 2,248


SUPREME MK3 | I5-13400F + RTX4070

SUPREME MK3 | I5-13400F + RTX4070

SGD $2,253.00 (price in inclusive of Windows 11 OEM)​

Specifications:
- IS13400F4070-WH18
- INTEL I5-13400F 2.50GHz 20MB CACHE 6C/12THREAD
- MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI D5
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 HALO ARGB
- TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MHz 32GB(16GBx2)
- ASUS DUAL RTX4070 12GB GDDR6X
- WD BLACK SN770 1TB GEN4
==> SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB 7000MB/S GEN4 NVME M.2 (+$254)
- SILVERSTONE ET750 750W 80+ GOLD
==> ASUS ROG STRIX 750-750W GOLD FULLY MODULAR (+$70)
- COOLER MASTER CMP520 ARGB BLACK MESH TEMPERED GLASS


Original price = $1,780
Windows 11 = $149
Upgrades = $324

Total = $ 2,253
 
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Hi, Sorry to hijack this thread.

But I was thinking of getting a PC from invaderPC too (same as TS) and the model is quite similar to TS.

Wondering if which model is a better choice? Or perhaps there are even other models I can consider?

Thank you!

Red words are those I am upgrading to.

MASTER MK3 | R5 7600 + RTX4070

SGD $2,248.00 (price in inclusive of Windows 11 OEM)​

Specifications:
- IM76004070-WH20
- AMD RYZEN 5 7600 3.8GHz 6CORE/12THREAD
- ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI AX ARGB
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 ARGB
- KINGSTON FURY BEAST RGB 5600MHz 16GB(8GBx2) CL36 AMD EXPO
==> G.SKILL TRIDENT Z5 NEO RGB 6000MHZ 16GBX2 32GB CL32
- ASUS DUAL RTX4070 12GB GDDR6X
- WD BLACK SN770 1TB GEN4
==> SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB 7000MB/S GEN4 NVME M.2
- SILVERSTONE ET750 750W 80+ GOLD
==> ASUS ROG STRIX 750-750W GOLD FULLY MODULAR
- COOLER MASTER CMP 320 CASING (3 ARGB FANS)

SUPREME MK3 | I5-13400F + RTX4070

SGD $2,253.00 (price in inclusive of Windows 11 OEM)​

Specifications:
- IS13400F4070-WH18
- INTEL I5-13400F 2.50GHz 20MB CACHE 6C/12THREAD
- MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI D5
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 HALO ARGB
- TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MHz 32GB(16GBx2)
- ASUS DUAL RTX4070 12GB GDDR6X
- WD BLACK SN770 1TB GEN4
==> SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB 7000MB/S GEN4 NVME M.2
- SILVERSTONE ET750 750W 80+ GOLD
==> ASUS ROG STRIX 750-750W GOLD FULLY MODULAR
- COOLER MASTER CMP520 ARGB BLACK MESH TEMPERED GLASS

How come your pricing is so much higher than the same build TS quoted from invader?? What is the pricing without windows 11 key?

On another note, your upgrades are good choices. If I may add, ask them to change the cpu cooler as well. Thermalright PA120 SE/non-SE and PS120 SE is pretty much unbeatable in terms of value/performance right now
 

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How come your pricing is so much higher than the same build TS quoted from invader?? What is the pricing without windows 11 key?

On another note, your upgrades are good choices. If I may add, ask them to change the cpu cooler as well. Thermalright PA120 SE/non-SE and PS120 SE is pretty much unbeatable in terms of value/performance right now
Hi RockaRolla,

Thanks for your prompt reply!

I have edited in my orginal post...detailing the original price and the individual upgrades cost.
 
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