M1 FIBRE BROADBAND DISCUSSION - Part 2

Hafi

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like mach3.2 says, it only stays the same until the service provider does some work on their OLT, then there will be a new randomly assigned IP address
It is very rare... I only encountered a couple of times per year, not hard to manually change the IP cos you'll know the maintenance date ahead of time (M1 will inform via email).

otherwise you can use Cloudflare Secure Tunneling, own domain required but you can get a free sub-domain with freedns.Afraid.org

google for DBtech youtube, he teaches how to do both (not on a NAS but Linux but should be similar)

edit: with Secure Tunneling, there no need to update your IP with an update script.
 
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It can change when the scheduled maintainance downtime is over an hour or 2 hours. But those are quite rare, I've been holding on to the same IP for the past few months.

That is interesting to know that M1 has more predictable IPv4 address change schedule.

For Singtel, it is kind of unpredictable. Sometimes the IPv4 address will stay the same for a long time. Sometimes it gets changed very fast.

In any case, DDNS works fine. I am using Asus DDNS service on my Asus router and Dynu (FreeDDNS.org) on OpenWRT. Both are working fine.
 
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Static IP makes more sense for those who needs constant 24/7 uptime (cannot even afford DDNS server not in sync) to run critical or production services which could be accessed externally.

If not, non-static IP and DDNS services will work just fine. But still recommend those who use static IP to have a more advance network solution such as running a firewall on the edge.​
 

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Static IP makes more sense for those who needs constant 24/7 uptime (cannot even afford DDNS server not in sync) to run critical or production services which could be accessed externally.

If not, non-static IP and DDNS services will work just fine. But still recommend those who use static IP to have a more advance network solution such as running a firewall on the edge.​

Great advice. I have added this to Note 2 of my post for Singapore ISP comparison.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/singapore-isp-comparisons.6665380/#post-138745929
 

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You do not need a static IP. You can use a DDNS service.

It is very rare... I only encountered a couple of times per year, not hard to manually change the IP cos you'll know the maintenance date ahead of time (M1 will inform via email).

otherwise you can use Cloudflare Secure Tunneling with an auto IP update script, own domain required but you can get a free sub-domain with freedns.Afraid.org

google for DBtech youtube, he teaches how to do both (not on a NAS but Linux but should be similar)
yes i do have ddns set up with my own domain, but static IP is more convenient for me since i travel for work (and may not have the latest IP after maintenances)

i'll try to look at the auto update script but it may be too complicated for me because i'm noob when it comes to these kinds of things and probably dont have the time for it since i'm moving house (first one of my own so there's lots to do)
 

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yes i do have ddns set up with my own domain, but static IP is more convenient for me since i travel for work (and may not have the latest IP after maintenances)

i'll try to look at the auto update script but it may be too complicated for me because i'm noob when it comes to these kinds of things and probably dont have the time for it since i'm moving house (first one of my own so there's lots to do)

But you may want to take note the good advice from TanKianW that he recommends those who use static IP to have a more advance network solution such as running a firewall on the edge.

Personally I do not recommend average user to use static IP due to security concerns. Dynamic IP may be safer since you mention your are not a pro user.

But I may be wrong here as I am not a security expert.
 

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But you may want to take note the good advice from TanKianW that he recommends those who use static IP to have a more advance network solution such as running a firewall on the edge.

Personally I do not recommend average user to use static IP due to security concerns. Dynamic IP may be safer since you mention your are not a pro user.

But I may be wrong here as I am not a security expert.
i actually have static IP plan right now from vq and backup singtel (because of singtel circle + viewqwest has limited bandwidth into china) so i was looking to get M1 for primary and possibly retain vq as backup

i know there're some security concerns but i've not done proper firewall setup, only basic things like not using the standard ports (port forwarding), obtaining ssl cert, deactivating default users etc. and turning on asus firewall+ai protection
 

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i actually have static IP plan right now from vq and backup singtel (because of singtel circle + viewqwest has limited bandwidth into china) so i was looking to get M1 for primary and possibly retain vq as backup

i know there're some security concerns but i've not done proper firewall setup, only basic things like not using the standard ports (port forwarding), obtaining ssl cert, deactivating default users etc. and turning on asus firewall+ai protection
Perhaps you can use the DDNS client on your asus router?

If your domain provider isn't supported, a hacky way is to use no-ip and just link the no-ip sub-domain to your own domain name using a CNAME record.
 

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yes i do have ddns set up with my own domain, but static IP is more convenient for me since i travel for work (and may not have the latest IP after maintenances)

i'll try to look at the auto update script but it may be too complicated for me because i'm noob when it comes to these kinds of things and probably dont have the time for it since i'm moving house (first one of my own so there's lots to do)
the thing with static IP is there loads of bots, scanners, sniffers, scrappers snooping around your network (when you're hosting stuffs with different ports etc...) everyday, you can see it just by looking through your traffic logs. Even if you have a firewall, there always dilemma what you want to block and what you don't want or cannot block and these plesky bots keep coming back under different useragents and even if you managed to block 90% of them (which is doable), there still some persistent ones that are unidentifiable (hard to come up with specific rules to block since it will block other legimate users too) and you can't possibly block all datacenter ASNs as it would require resources to lookup everytime a visit hits. While most are harmless but do you want complete strangers to loiter around outside your house everyday?

so what I've done is to totally blocked off all traffic (result = 403) that is coming in via direct IP and only allows Cloudflare header (your use case should be secure tunneling) to passthrough then I leave it to CF to filter/firewall. Yes I know you have a domain and everyone should respect that and come through that domain but heck bots doesn't respect (read above my first sentence) that and they come direct through your IP address. My use case is a server hosted in a datacenter but for your homelab/NAS scenario, you are the only one accessing?... so it should be easier to implement.
 
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i actually have static IP plan right now from vq and backup singtel (because of singtel circle + viewqwest has limited bandwidth into china) so i was looking to get M1 for primary and possibly retain vq as backup

i know there're some security concerns but i've not done proper firewall setup, only basic things like not using the standard ports (port forwarding), obtaining ssl cert, deactivating default users etc. and turning on asus firewall+ai protection
this should explains you what secure tunneling is



step-by-step blog post: https://www.crosstalksolutions.com/cloudflare-tunnel-easy-setup/

note: with Cloudflare Secure Tunneling technology, there no need to fiddle with your IP address whether its static or dynamic (corrected my earlier post).
 

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Actually Dynamic IP can only do so much. Is it safer?......kind of. Subjective too. You are not immune to persistent bots and scanners too.

Unless you are 24/7 ready to unplug your network when hacker strike. If not, your network will still be under attack at wee hours or weekends when you are not watching. And still, there are so many scanners out there (Akamai, AWS, etc)......you going to unplug your network every time a scanner (harmless or not) strike??

The better/preferred way is to run a competent firewall regardless of static/non-static IP if you are running services that could be accessed externally. Best is through a tunnel/VPN. However, if you are hosting public services, running on a tunnel is not possible every time. If the type of server you running is prone to DDOS, then you should run another layer of protection like Cloudflare.



For home users, my advice is still if you are not network savvy, lock down on services that has to access to the internet. Or just use a tunnel/VPN.​
 
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if contract ended will m1 ask u to renew or we can ask to down grade to 500mb no contract?
 

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I'm trying to sign up m1 1G plan using the free 3 mths promo.
How you guys getting the registration fee waived as online still reflecting chargeable.
Need to call or go down shop?
Did you manage to get the fee waived? I'm applying online, also see the registration fee is still there, not waived.
 

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Did you manage to get the fee waived? I'm applying online, also see the registration fee is still there, not waived.
According to this T&C Waiver of Registration Charge Promotion each eligible customer must redeem the offer at M1 website - by inputting the applicable unique promotional code at the point of sign-up.
For me during Feb 2023 switch from Starhub to M1, I sign-up thru' calling M1 CSO at 1627, and both Fibre Registration $59.40 and ONT Activation Charge $90.84 free.
 

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According to this T&C Waiver of Registration Charge Promotion each eligible customer must redeem the offer at M1 website - by inputting the applicable unique promotional code at the point of sign-up.
For me during Feb 2023 switch from Starhub to M1, I sign-up thru' calling M1 CSO at 1627, and both Fibre Registration $59.40 and ONT Activation Charge $90.84 free.
Thanks. I manage to get hold of the CSO and confirmed even after inputting the promo code , the checkout page will still show the Registration Charges of $59.40. This charge will be waived in the upcoming bill.
 
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