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Mecisteus

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That's why IF (a big IF) want to buy participating policy, should buy one that has a track record of being reasonable to the policyholder.

How useful is the track record in determining the future of 20-30 years?

Lehman Brothers was in operation since 1850 but they collapsed too.
 

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How useful is the track record in determining the future of 20-30 years?

Lehman Brothers was in operation since 1850 but they collapsed too.
Well, of course insurer don't "chu pattern" now does not mean they will not "chu pattern" in the future. But for those that have a current bad track record, it is advisable to avoid (right now) cause the ethics is unlikely to change..
 

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My wife is complaining that her projected maturity is so much lesser than her expected total premium paid
 

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If possible, do cite the insurer/name of policy. The type of policy (whole life/traditional endowment/anticipated endowment), premium payment term (limited years or perpetual).

If its those anticipated (i.e. cashback) endowment, then yes ....that's what you would typically see in the projection (BI). The buyer should see carefully what they are buying (or signing up).
 

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Can't forget the old NTUC Living Policy :s12:
Lol...Living Policy really quite good (so far).

Just to share my experience
AIA: Policies >20 years. Whole life policies. Bonuses got permanently revised downwards 3 times.
GE: Policies about 10 years. Whole life policies. No change.
Income: Policies about 10 years. Whole life policies. The bonus structure was revamped in one year (200x) but the bonus remain largely unchanged. In fact, the surrender value seems to be better after the revamp. Yup...its the Living Policy. =)
TM: Policies about 5 years. Whole life policies. No change.

Income/UOB Life(No more): Endowment policies (Capital Life/UOB Life Guaranteed Reward). 10 year traditional endowment. Around 4% pa, guaranteed.

Personally most comfortable with Income, followed by GE.
 
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Lol...Living Policy really quite good (so far).

Just to share my experience
AIA: Policies >20 years. Whole life policies. Bonuses got permanently revised downwards 3 times.
GE: Policies about 10 years. Whole life policies. No change.
Income: Policies about 10 years. Whole life policies. The bonus structure was revamped in one year (200x) but the bonus remain largely unchanged. In fact, the surrender value seems to be better after the revamp. Yup...its the Living Policy. =)
TM: Policies about 5 years. Whole life policies. No change.

Income/UOB Life(No more): Endowment policies (Capital Life/UOB Life Guaranteed Reward). 10 year traditional endowment. Around 4% pa, guaranteed.

Personally most comfortable with Income, followed by GE.
I'm looking for annuity. Any recommendations? Thanks.
 

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i also received manulife letter saying they cut my terminal bonus rate :(
 

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Me too painful to cut loss...

Actually the termination is not due to this reason. It just I decide to go "naked" and terminate all my life insurance to get the cash value and invest in the stock market. Sadly I unable to get term insurance in replacement due to medical reason. Keeping finger crossed for the next 15 years nothing happen to me for my investment to bear fruit
 

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This lousy Manulife insurance coy again reduced the terminal bonus citing poor economic situation. This is the second time they are doing this in my 20 years with them. My Living Choice life policy has not even break even after 20 years.

Beware if you are going to buy your policy from them!
HWZ1973 - I am in the same predicament as you. got 'conned' into buying this policy some 18 years ago and the cumulative premiums paid so far way exceeded the surrender value... whereas both my NTUC and GE policies have long 'broken even' (SV > premiums paid) . And this has not even taken into account the effects of inflation.
I seriously have no faith in Manulife and am considering terminating my policy so as not to throw more good money after bad
Is there any where we can lodge a complaint against them?
 
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