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Information of bus trips can take up to 3 days to be reflected in your ABT travel history. I experienced this situation at least once before.

With the new transfer rules, we can at last do multiple MRT trips within the 2-hours/5-trips limit. It has given me some flexibility in planning my travel.

What new transfer rules ?
 

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/commuters-can-exit-and-re-enter-rail-system-without-penalty

Is it started now?

So rail to bus or bus to bus grace period 45 minutes.
rail to rail grace period 15 minutes.
bus to rail not sure still 45 minutes or 15 minutes. last time is 45 minutes. I think should be still 45 minutes.
Rail A to bus then rail B ( there is bus trip in between) logically no need keep 15 minutes between rail A and rail B right?
Anyone know?
 

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From my own travel experience ever since the start of the new transfer rules :

Trips between buses : 45min
Trips between MRT and bus : 45min
Trips between different MRT entry and exit stations : 15min

If you do 5 combined bus/MRT trips within 2 hours, it will considered one continuous valid trip provided the following rules are followed :

1. No same bus service number is repeated
2. Grace period between 2 bus trips : 45min
3. Grace period between 1 bus and 1 MRT trip : 45min
4. Grace period between 2 MRT trips (different station entry / exit) : 15min
5. Grace period for transfer between Tampines (EWL) and Tampines (DTL): 15min
6. Grace period for transfer between Newton (NSL) and Newton (DTL): 15min

I have personally try MRT station A exit, waited 40min to take a bus, then entry to MRT station B : considered as one trip.

The only thing I am unsure is if I do a MRT station A exit, take a bus, then do MRT station A entry again, whether it is taken as one trip. I will think that if the "no same bus service number rule" is applied, the 2nd MRT trip should be considered as a new trip.

I have done my best to share based on my personal observations. Any comments welcomed.
 

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From my own travel experience ever since the start of the new transfer rules :

Trips between buses : 45min
Trips between MRT and bus : 45min
Trips between different MRT entry and exit stations : 15min

If you do 5 combined bus/MRT trips within 2 hours, it will considered one continuous valid trip provided the following rules are followed :

1. No same bus service number is repeated
2. Grace period between 2 bus trips : 45min
3. Grace period between 1 bus and 1 MRT trip : 45min
4. Grace period between 2 MRT trips (different station entry / exit) : 15min
5. Grace period for transfer between Tampines (EWL) and Tampines (DTL): 15min
6. Grace period for transfer between Newton (NSL) and Newton (DTL): 15min

I have personally try MRT station A exit, waited 40min to take a bus, then entry to MRT station B : considered as one trip.

The only thing I am unsure is if I do a MRT station A exit, take a bus, then do MRT station A entry again, whether it is taken as one trip. I will think that if the "no same bus service number rule" is applied, the 2nd MRT trip should be considered as a new trip.

I have done my best to share based on my personal observations. Any comments welcomed.

1. No same bus service number exit then entry even different bus stop
BUT can use same bus service number as long as there is other service number in between.
 

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From my own travel experience ever since the start of the new transfer rules :

Trips between buses : 45min
Trips between MRT and bus : 45min
Trips between different MRT entry and exit stations : 15min

If you do 5 combined bus/MRT trips within 2 hours, it will considered one continuous valid trip provided the following rules are followed :

1. No same bus service number is repeated
2. Grace period between 2 bus trips : 45min
3. Grace period between 1 bus and 1 MRT trip : 45min
4. Grace period between 2 MRT trips (different station entry / exit) : 15min
5. Grace period for transfer between Tampines (EWL) and Tampines (DTL): 15min
6. Grace period for transfer between Newton (NSL) and Newton (DTL): 15min

I have personally try MRT station A exit, waited 40min to take a bus, then entry to MRT station B : considered as one trip.

The only thing I am unsure is if I do a MRT station A exit, take a bus, then do MRT station A entry again, whether it is taken as one trip. I will think that if the "no same bus service number rule" is applied, the 2nd MRT trip should be considered as a new trip.

I have done my best to share based on my personal observations. Any comments welcomed.

Wow. Thanks for sharing.
 

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Ride 1: bus 2
Ride 2: mrt (kallang to lavender)
Ride 3: bus 12
Ride 4: mrt (bugis to city hall)

All within 2 hours, 45 mins transfer between rides. Does it count as a single trip throughout with this new transfer rule?
 

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Ride 1: bus 2
Ride 2: mrt (kallang to lavender)
Ride 3: bus 12
Ride 4: mrt (bugis to city hall)

All within 2 hours, 45 mins transfer between rides. Does it count as a single trip throughout with this new transfer rule?
Yes.

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Just to share, the rides I took yesterday.

I switched back to CEPAS because there's no promotion here for DBS, and I can use top-up of ezlink to add to the minimum spending of $400 for DBS VISA Debit for cashback (ezlink top-up no cashback*).

Based on the new transfer rules, I was able to take 2x train rides + 4x bus rides within 2h. However, I'm surprised that the fare system doesn't restart the billing as I board back and took the reverse direction train.

Even max out the fare system with the $2.08 fare, by travelling way over 50km in total (cap: 43.2km iirc). :s13:

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The last ride (192) was both ineligible as a transfer ride (6th transfer) and already out of the 2h transfer limit, so it's a brand new ride.

But still, with the new fare system, I've saved about a dollar.
With the old system and previous fare system:
- 974 -> MRT -> 169 -> 171 -> 858: $1.97
- MRT -> 192: $1.88
- Total (Old system): $3.95

- Total (New system): $2.91
- Savings: $1.04
(This is an isolated case of cost saving for me. Most of the time I'm not travelling in this manner, so the $0.06 increase is still a hit.)

Using this loophole, technically people can just alight from the station, take some random bus to another station, then continue second train ride again. This will prolong their ability to stay in either stations for long without paying any penalty.

Sent from Xiaomi MI MIX 2 using GAGT
 
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I won't call it a loop hole. The new transfer rule is designed to give incentives to use bus/MRT.

Also those with knowledge of how the rule works will benefit. Is a case of knowledge saves you money and help you better plan your travel.
 

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I won't call it a loop hole. The new transfer rule is designed to give incentives to use bus/MRT.

Also those with knowledge of how the rule works will benefit. Is a case of knowledge saves you money and help you better plan your travel.
That's true. Knowledge still isn't enough tho, that person must know that it'll take more effort to walk around but will result in time and cost savings. Some people are just too lazy to do it.

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Just to share, the rides I took yesterday.

I switched back to CEPAS because there's no promotion here for DBS, and I can use top-up of ezlink to add to the minimum spending of $400 for DBS VISA Debit for cashback (ezlink top-up no cashback*).

Based on the new transfer rules, I was able to take 2x train rides + 4x bus rides within 2h. However, I'm surprised that the fare system doesn't restart the billing as I board back and took the reverse direction train.

Even max out the fare system with the $2.08 fare, by travelling way over 50km in total (cap: 43.2km iirc). :s13:

ONX4lbtl.png


The last ride (192) was both ineligible as a transfer ride (6th transfer) and already out of the 2h transfer limit, so it's a brand new ride.

But still, with the new fare system, I've saved about a dollar.
With the old system and previous fare system:
- 974 -> MRT -> 169 -> 171 -> 858: $1.97
- MRT -> 192: $1.88
- Total (Old system): $3.95

- Total (New system): $2.91
- Savings: $1.04
(This is an isolated case of cost saving for me. Most of the time I'm not travelling in this manner, so the $0.06 increase is still a hit.)

Using this loophole, technically people can just alight from the station, take some random bus to another station, then continue second train ride again. This will prolong their ability to stay in either stations for long without paying any penalty.

Sent from Xiaomi MI MIX 2 using GAGT

Wah. You go for joyride ah.
 

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Very useful info. When I go temple, take about 30 min. But always no rebate. Now I know it is because I took same bus number back. Next time I take another bus number to save cost.

I observed last time I sometimes don't seem to get rebate when I go bus interchange to change bus. From sbs to smrt. But now less issues coz Yishun a lot of bus change to sbs already.
 

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That is what sharing is all about, to help one another save money and time.
 

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Very useful info. When I go temple, take about 30 min. But always no rebate. Now I know it is because I took same bus number back. Next time I take another bus number to save cost.

I observed last time I sometimes don't seem to get rebate when I go bus interchange to change bus. From sbs to smrt. But now less issues coz Yishun a lot of bus change to sbs already.
Any examples or stories to share for the second paragraph? :s31:
 
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