[Maylyn - Networking] ASUS ZenWiFi XT8

[jasonho]

Is it? Anyone can share?

That's true if you are comparing with wired back-haul. And when it comes to dual band mesh units, and esp if u are using those old routers like AC ones, speed can quite disappointing.

Eg if you using AC68U as aimesh, your speed will likely to be

1300Mbps (5ghz) / 2 * 0.7 = 455Mbps max.

And with wireless AiMesh typical setup (factoring LOS, distance, wifi type and devices support etc), you can relatively slice off another 50% off so it will be 100-200Mbps on average. This speed is relatively good enough for household who doesn't have alot of user or devices.

As a general rule of thumb, Tri-Band should be recommended when and if one choose to do wireless Mesh. This is due to the dedicated 3rd band which is typically meant for wireless backhaul. My current XT8 setup yields me 400Mbps on average vs a AX88U + AC88U setup as you can read from my thread.

Powerline wise, i think alot of factors come into play. Eg how the power points and cable layout, esp when it comes to old flat. My experience with powerline : speed fluctuates a lot and its not as stable as triband wireless back-haul Mesh setup.

My recommendation for mesh setup is

Wired Back-haul (dual band is fine in this case) > Wireless Back-haul (using Tri-band) > Wireless Back-haul (dual band) > powerline setup

Or even a $10-$15 AC/N wifi repeater if your node usage is just chat or browsing and just ~3 users.

 

[skpuppy]

That's true if you are comparing with wired back-haul. And when it comes to dual band mesh units, and esp if u are using those old routers like AC ones, speed can quite disappointing.

Eg if you using AC68U as aimesh, your speed will likely to be

1300Mbps (5ghz) / 2 * 0.7 = 455Mbps max.

And with wireless AiMesh typical setup (factoring LOS, distance, wifi type and devices support etc), you can relatively slice off another 50% off so it will be 100-200Mbps on average. This speed is relatively good enough for household who doesn't have alot of user or devices.

As a general rule of thumb, Tri-Band should be recommended when and if one choose to do wireless Mesh. This is due to the dedicated 3rd band which is typically meant for wireless backhaul. My current XT8 setup yields me 400Mbps on average vs a AX88U + AC88U setup as you can read from my thread.

Powerline wise, i think alot of factors comes into play too. Eg how the power points and cable layout, esp when it comes to old flat. My experience with powerline : speed fluctuates a lot and its not as stable as triband wireless back-haul Mesh setup.

My recommendation for mesh setup is

Wired Back-haul (dual band is fine in this case) > Wireless Back-haul (using Tri-band) > Wireless Back-haul (dual band) > powerline setup

Or even a $10-$15 AC/N wifi repeater if your node usage is just chat or browsing and just ~3 users.

Presume you are on 1gbps

 

[jasonho]

Presume you are on 1gbps

Yes I am on 1gbps broadband though my home network is 2.5gbps backbone.

 

[cstanhwz]

HWZ Tech Award

Award Category	Winner
Best Wi-Fi 6 Mesh Networking System	ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8)

 

[Zijin_]

Do any one know if I used a dual band router as main router and aimesh to 2 xt8 l, will the XT8 still have triband or limit to dual band?

 

[BradenHeat]

thats weird question , but,

if you're using the Dual band as [ Main Router ], and the [ 02x xt8 ] as nodes,


Dual band M.R ---> via Lan --> to 1st xt8 , then to the other xt8?
it should be still be tri-band between the 2 xt8s

[AiMesh] Can I set up wired connection between AiMesh routers (Ethernet backhaul)? | Official Support | ASUS USA

but if you're going strictly to wireless , then yea, its gonna affect

Dual band M.Router --> via wireless Aimesh [ 5ghz used ] effectively the 2.4 will be used more often and advisable

 

[Zijin_]

thats weird question , but,

if you're using the Dual band as [ Main Router ], and the [ 02x xt8 ] as nodes,


Dual band M.R ---> via Lan --> to 1st xt8 , then to the other xt8?
it should be still be tri-band between the 2 xt8s

[AiMesh] Can I set up wired connection between AiMesh routers (Ethernet backhaul)? | Official Support | ASUS USA

but if you're going strictly to wireless , then yea, its gonna affect

Dual band M.Router --> via wireless Aimesh [ 5ghz used ] effectively the 2.4 will be used more often and advisable

Actually going wired. Cause don't want put XT8 in dB box. So main router - > lan 1 to XT8 1-> Lan 2 to XT8 2

Probably turn off main router wireless too

 

[BradenHeat]

Actually going wired. Cause don't want put XT8 in dB box. So main router - > lan 1 to XT8 1-> Lan 2 to XT8 2

Probably turn off main router wireless too

interesting,

Seems like its a bad design for networking for modern HDB/ condo, where the DB only has unique LAN wallports going out and nothing for MR back to other rooms

that explains why the need for main router,




someone please correct me here, im really rusty here because i had rarely had the need to use mesh after moving

not sure if using a edgerouter/switch would solve the problem ,

DataBox Fiber---to--> DataBox placed router/switch [ ubiquity or something ] WAN port---> route to Wall port from within the DB,

not sure if the 1st node of xt8 can "see" the other node , without going double NAT or backloop lol, im really really sorry for not recalling


unless you aim for 3pack nodes, and manually cable out the main xt8 out of DB, and do a rewiring back into the DB to other LAN ports

 

[Apex]

Actually going wired. Cause don't want put XT8 in dB box. So main router - > lan 1 to XT8 1-> Lan 2 to XT8 2

Probably turn off main router wireless too

Do any one know if I used a dual band router as main router and aimesh to 2 xt8 l, will the XT8 still have triband or limit to dual band?

You can just keep your main router inside the DB (can also turn off the main router wifi network or set a another wifi name for XT8 to avoid confusion)

Configure the XT8 as AP mode they are ready to work at MESH AP.

The XT8 will work as a pair so Tri/dual band not affected

 

[BradenHeat]

You can just keep your main router inside the DB (can also turn off the main router wifi network or set a another wifi name for XT8 to avoid confusion)

Configure the XT8 as AP mode they are ready to work at MESH AP.

The XT8 will work as a pair so Tri/dual band not affected

Curious, would the mesh ap be allowed to change their respective 5Ghz Channels ? got me curious as i recall AP cannot choose their channel regardless, pardon me if my knowledge is overdued haha

 

[Apex]

Curious, would the mesh ap be allowed to change their respective 5Ghz Channels ? got me curious as i recall AP cannot choose their channel regardless, pardon me if my knowledge is overdued haha

On AI-Mesh you can't control the secondary mesh W ifi channel (router/AP mode). Because the secondary Mash webui is disable.

 

[jasonho]

Curious, would the mesh ap be allowed to change their respective 5Ghz Channels ? got me curious as i recall AP cannot choose their channel regardless, pardon me if my knowledge is overdued haha

In a AiMesh setup, both main and secondary node(s) will be using the same channel. And you can change the channel via the main wireless node thru the webUI. It will cascade down all settings to all connecting nodes.

 

[BradenHeat]

@Apex @jasonho I see, that is indeed viable solution for folks trying to expand thanks !

 

[skpuppy]

Not sure whether this 6.6 will have any great deal? Nowadays I feel a lot of “marketing” deals rather than the real deal. Hachi tech put $749 (usual price $899). Wonder which cock will believe the usual price is $899. Might as well write $1099 or $1399

 

[xiaofan]

Not sure whether this 6.6 will have any great deal? Nowadays I feel a lot of “marketing” deals rather than the real deal. Hachi tech put $749 (usual price $899). Wonder which cock will believe the usual price is $899. Might as well write $1099 or $1399

There is a global chip shortages, and actually also other materials shortages like PCB materials, so the cost for things like router is trending higher this year.

 

[skpuppy]

Indeed, those retailers like Best Denki say they huat with this pandemic. Routers and TVs all flew off the shelf like Harry Potter Movies.

This global crisis very interesting as compared to previous ones. This time round those that can work from home cheong new router, laptops, tv, iPads, phones and subscribe to online streaming. All these make all those tech companies products in high demand. This effect trickle down to all the other tech companies and all huat together.
As this continues, those richer become more huat where they typical workers are the one

 

[cstanhwz]

Firmware version 3.0.0.4.386_43181
- Release Note -

Bug Fixes and Enhancements:
1. Fixed guest network related issues.
2. Improved system stability.
3. Fixed Android 7 device connection issues.

Asus releasing a new MESH XD6 soon.

 

[*adiBOY]

Firmware version 3.0.0.4.386_43181
- Release Note -

Bug Fixes and Enhancements:
1. Fixed guest network related issues.
2. Improved system stability.
3. Fixed Android 7 device connection issues.

Asus releasing a new MESH XD6 soon.

XT8 still a "better" product with one more band and faster processor.
XT8 also comes with a USB port while XD6 does not.

 

[jikilan]

Do any one know if I used a dual band router as main router and aimesh to 2 xt8 l, will the XT8 still have triband or limit to dual band?

i am using this setup with ax86u, but 3.0.0.4.386_43181 seem messed it up. wifi settings in xt8 5Ghz-2 no longer in sync with ax86u's 5ghz. Like cannot disabled 5Ghz-1 and use only 5Ghz-2. hopefully it is just a bug...

 

[cubeball]

ET8 Tri band and AXE