Microsoft Surface

[E_T]

Yup I'll try to test the SSD enclosures (w UASP) in another laptop later once I can get a hand on it.

UASP is supported in Windows 8 natively so I supposedly it's also supported in Windows 8.1

Windows*8: What's new for USB (Windows Drivers)

And if those SSD enclosure manufacturers claimed their enclosure supports UASP I don't see why the performance cannot hit about 450MB/s

I think there's a compatibility issue in the UASP implementation

Yup, UAS is supported in Win8.x natively but probably through a mini-filter driver. This reduces performance somewhat. Also since it's a serial bus, there're 2 overhead in the data packet, USB + SCSI which tend to reduce bandwidth. But by how much? That's the question. Can it reduce bandwidth to 250MB/s, maybe.

In data communication where you want maximum bandwidth, we always try to reduce overhead, that's why at home, I use a MTU of 9000 bytes instead of the default 1024 for my LAN & WiFi connections.

 

[Apparatus]

Yup, UAS is supported in Win8.x natively but probably through a mini-filter driver. This reduces performance somewhat. Also since it's a serial bus, there're 2 overhead in the data packet, USB + SCSI which tend to reduce bandwidth. But by how much? That's the question. Can it reduce bandwidth to 250MB/s, maybe.

In data communication where you want maximum bandwidth, we always try to reduce overhead, that's why at home, I use a MTU of 9000 bytes instead of the default 1024 for my LAN & WiFi connections.

I doubt so about reduced performance through the use of a reduced filter by MS. Why the need of reduced performance in SP?

 

[vincent007]

zzz this thread is useless without pictures

very nice! what color is your type cover?

 

[noobzpro]

Red type cover thanks guys

 

[temptemp]

Red type cover thanks guys

what's the $ for the skin applied?

 

[noobzpro]

Think it's around 3 sgd lol

 

[charizard1987]

So, surface 2 cannot install software like autocad, while surface pro can.. am i right?

 

[kimurastanley]

So, surface 2 cannot install software like autocad, while surface pro can.. am i right?

Yes. Cos it is windows RT

 

[~大.芒.果~]

Think it's around 3 sgd lol

wah bro more than that lah

 

[hulkmagic]

hi guys, am thinking of getting the surface pro 3 you guys order from ms online store or bought frm retailers like challenger/harvey norman ?

 

[knave]

hi guys, am thinking of getting the surface pro 3 you guys order from ms online store or bought frm retailers like challenger/harvey norman ?

Better to go store to buy. If it has defects you can change on the spot

 

[~大.芒.果~]

hi guys, am thinking of getting the surface pro 3 you guys order from ms online store or bought frm retailers like challenger/harvey norman ?

you student buy from ms online got 10% off....not student no difference

 

[temptemp]

anywhere got stock for i5/128 w black cover? was at Tampines 1 Challenger, the black type cover is oos.

after I buy from shop, I can get the 229 ext warranty online?

 

[E_T]

I doubt so about reduced performance through the use of a reduced filter by MS. Why the need of reduced performance in SP?

It's not reduced performance. It's overhead. It's an inherent disadvantage of a serial bus.

 

[hulkmagic]

Better to go store to buy. If it has defects you can change on the spot

you student buy from ms online got 10% off....not student no difference

im student. ok will order frm ms online !

thanks

 

[Apparatus]

Re

It's not reduced performance. It's overhead. It's an inherent disadvantage of a serial bus.

Ok, just tested in my office PC running Win 7 Pro with a HDD on USB 3.0. The transfer was disappointing about 145MB/s as compared to transferring to my SP3 reaching about 245MB/s.

I think the issue lies in the receiving HDD/SSD and not the UASP-supported USB 3.0 enclosures.

The SAMSUNG 850 PRO 512GB SSD is a top notch SSD with an ability to reach about 450MB/s in read/write. This is a proven fact.

Now if transferring to a slower HDD/SSD it is sure to impact its transfer speed. Although the SP3 comes with a built-in SSD I believe its performance is not as good as the SAMSUNG 850 PRO 512GB SSD. And that's the reason I'm only getting 245MB/s in transfer speed.

So to test the real capability of the SAMSUNG 850 PRO 512GB SSD you'll need two (2) identical or equivalent speed SSDs - one reading from and the other writing to.

 

[noobzpro]

Last day to buy accessories and get voucher lol....need order another arc Touch

 

[temptemp]

Last day to buy accessories and get voucher lol....need order another arc Touch

hi what promo is this? any minimum purchase? how much is the voucher? get the ext warranty got count anot?

 

[stjoe1]

Also want to know what promo is this

hi what promo is this? any minimum purchase? how much is the voucher? get the ext warranty got count anot?

 

[Villngiam]

Can surface 2 install qvod player? 快播? As when I try to install it says 'this app cannot be installed in my PC' is it because of the windows 8.1?