MLM advice needed (lips lais ! )

[anon0000]

just sharing my exp with elusyf,though its not positive.

I am currently a NSF, being 'pulled' into elusyf by a fren of mine, whom I wasn't very close with. He wanted to share something 'powerful' and allowing me to make money easily. We met up and he proceed to give a pitch about how wonderful the anti-aging product is, and it helps many people to cure diseases and whats not.

Without thinking much, i proceed to buy the products,which cost $3k... it was after i went back home,after a good think thru, then i realise that i had taken the bait of MLM.

I have to admit, this fren of mine is good at pitching the pros of the product,and i think that i was foolish enough to even take the bait. after i had withdrawn the money, i was quite hesitant to continue on this biz, as i do not have a lot of contacts to intro this biz to.i have attended some of the lessons conducted by the trainers and tbh, i dont feel anything good being learn..
from then on, this fren of mine and my mentor would pester me to join in their talks and activities but i would reject..things come to a stage where msg and calls by them would ignored,and i simply dun care..i was added into elusyf fb grp and seeing how other ppl bringing new 'clients' into the biz just make me feel bad for them, they lost not only $$,but also frenship..

till now, i have left the biz, and hope that the $3k is a lesson learnt..it seems like many poly ppl and NSF were in this thing too, and whether they earned money is another thing..

 

[Perisher]

those details u can always ask before signing mah?

Actually I would always ask for details, more often than not, they reach a point whereby they can't explain and try to confuse with other stuff instead.
Most of them won't even acknowledge they are MLM, and when you can prove otherwise, they would start to avoid the similarity and talk other stuff.

 

[wahkao3]

how wonderful the anti-aging product is, and it helps many people to cure diseases and whats not.

ok what? anti aging is something useful. Not like they are making u sell magic stone or scam products

i was quite hesitant to continue on this biz, as i do not have a lot of contacts to intro this biz to.

no contacts is ok, can always find new contacts one mah?
if u are hardworking enough, can find
expand your network, get to know more people, whats so hard about that?

obviously the root cause is you do not have the flair for sales.

 

[wahkao3]

Actually I would always ask for details, more often than not, they reach a point whereby they can't explain and try to confuse with other stuff instead.
Most of them won't even acknowledge they are MLM, and when you can prove otherwise, they would start to avoid the similarity and talk other stuff.

what are the questions you asked and their response??

 

[Perisher]

what are the questions you asked and their response??

Just a few month back, I went to one which talks about forex making $$, their structure has the intro people to get cashback thing. Anyway, I asked them who their top 4 trader are, they can't say.
I asked what happens when their so called world class trader unperformed, they say they would be replaced, so I asked how you get so many world class trader to take over those underperforming ones?
No answer.
Then I ask, if they can be easily replaced, why would they work for us?
and then so on and so forth... Eventually, they either skipped the question or best, say want to invest invest, don't ask so much.

 

[xariaxaria]

wouldnt say that MLM is a scam but it is not for everyone.

ElusyfGlobal actually started out from Long Fa International where their main product was the detox pills (bai tu mei yuan bao) and there was a period where LFI was very active and popular but has since died down. The boss of the company is a Singaporean Eldee Tang I believe and it is hard to find a MLM company with a Singaporean boss.

A lot of people joined LFI last time because it was a SG based company and there were promises of expanding overseas ( hey, why join AMWAY and let ppl in the US earn, why not start in SG and earn the $$ from US ppl? ). well they did try to expand overseas but did not manage to do so well I think

Some of the ppl there did indeed put off their degree education for a few years and did the business. Some did well and did not need the degree anymore, while some failed , just like anything else in life.

If you treat it as a place to gain exposure and see people from all walks of life, its an ok place to be in. But if you treat it as a money making opportunity, then you are likely going to be disappointed unless you really like sales

Last thing to note... you dont have to pay 1050 SGD to start off in that company. All you need to do is to pay the membership fee which is less than 20SGD (50SGD at most). That is just a way for them to make sales

hi, did you only paid for the registration fee? They actually have a package for you to buy before you can sell it.

 

[xariaxaria]

they have to refund u even if u have gotten the products as long as you haven't opened them and that they are still in their original packaging, within 7 days.

if u feel u alone are unable to be firm and feel pressurized by them, try to ask another friend along or even your parents

hi , would like to know about your story what happened and what you did.

 

[havetheveryfun]

hi, did you only paid for the registration fee? They actually have a package for you to buy before you can sell it.

Have PMed you. well yeah logically you need to buy something before you can sell it (since you need the stock on hand to sell instantly). But if you are able to take pre-orders, you can take the money from your customers then go to the counter to purchase those items, you don't really have to buy the package.

Your friend has got to sell you a package because if not he earns nothing except for a downline. If you think about it, those things aren't really that easy to sell on their own because the base cost price is already quite high. In MLM there are 2 ways to make money, build a network and downlines and sell packages to them when they join, or to build a wide customer base. Building a wide customer base takes too much time at the start and unless your products are really something extraordinary its not that easy to sell..unless you are a good salesman of course.

 

[paulkee87]

Most of the MLM company have a starting package offer to you to sign up before able to sell their products or earn a commission but while it all takes time and effort to get a certain level of earning. By becoming a member to sell the company products doesn't really require you to spend on big money first.

For me I feel that to be successful is willing to learn, teamwork although you are earning on your own income but you are not alone, work hard, a strong mindset to change your current life or goals. That is why like @havetheeveryfun mention MLM is not really a scam but not for everyone.

Of course every business have some groups of people who will use pressure, clarity of the products that how it can cure what problem or anti-aging . While I believe a effort to research the company yourself, the income earning method and the teams you will be in.

 

[Airosmith]

why not report to cad or the police?

 

[Zheng yi]

why not report to cad or the police?

Call CAD at 63250000 if you suspect a business scheme of being an illegal MLM scheme

 

[Iamhuman2]

Have anyone heard of this company - oriental Inchaway Pte ltd? Heard they are selling amazing oil products from Sacha Inchi oil - that claims to be able to help people cure cancer, eczema or skin problems, will make you look 20 years younger, weight loss etc..

According to global research and survey, Sacha Inchi oil is found to have contained rich polyunsaturated fatty acids, it is very beneficial to chronic diseases which are caused by malnutrition due to unbalanced diet. Other than being of great value to health, Sacha Inchi is believed to be able to create huge economic value.

Not sure is this mlm or pyramid selling, but generally public are invited for “dinners” so that they can hear about the products and how to join as members. The oil are sold at $100 per bottle. While I am not particular sure how membership works (happy to find out if you guys have experience on this) basically you will be preached on how you can earn money, buy branded cars and even resign from normal job just from selling this oil..

Sounds Super miraculous products they are selling so I am keen to invest if it’s NOT illegal!! I would like to hear all your views on this!

 

[JuniorLion]

$100 per bottle?

Run far far away.

Oh, and by the way, you are welcome to invest in it.

 

[Iamhuman2]

$100 per bottle?

Run far far away.

Oh, and by the way, you are welcome to invest in it.

Hmmm just wanted more opinions.. if investing $100 can cure cancer, or make one young, sounds like a good deal, right? This product might put all Doctors or asethetic Doctors in shame and out of job soon! Revolutionary product!
Unfortunately, not even sure this product has been certified to be sold in Singapore, even though it’s registered company. Anyone know where to check what certifications are needed? I saw these certifications from their Malaysia website (btw, I cannot seem to find the Singapore site) the product is halal certified, gone through quality checks ( sgs testing) and even a check from Agri-Food & Veterinary Authority of Singapore.. sounds decent, nope?

For the company wise, basically it’s recruiting members to join and buy their products. As the lead distributors I Guess you can earn more as you get your products cheaper. Just not sure if it is considered as a legalised direct selling company.. cannot seems to find its registration on dsa website.

 

[JuniorLion]

Hmmm just wanted more opinions.. if investing $100 can cure cancer, or make one young, sounds like a good deal, right? This product might put all Doctors or asethetic Doctors in shame and out of job soon! Revolutionary product!
Unfortunately, not even sure this product has been certified to be sold in Singapore, even though it’s registered company. Anyone know where to check what certifications are needed? I saw these certifications from their Malaysia website (btw, I cannot seem to find the Singapore site) the product is halal certified, gone through quality checks ( sgs testing) and even a check from Agri-Food & Veterinary Authority of Singapore.. sounds decent, nope?

For the company wise, basically it’s recruiting members to join and buy their products. As the lead distributors I Guess you can earn more as you get your products cheaper. Just not sure if it is considered as a legalised direct selling company.. cannot seems to find its registration on dsa website.

If this thing can cure cancer, they won't be selling a bottle of $100. Or otherwise, you may need 1000 such bottles to cure, in which case, the cost of curing cancer will be $100k. Either way, if it can cure cancer, it's either a hoax or it won't be cheap.

Good luck.

 

[Shion]

MLM company

https://www.ftc.gov.tw/internet/english/doc/docDetail.aspx?uid=179&docid=15287

Taiwan Inchaway Co., Ltd., a multi-level marketing business, violated Article 7 (1) of the Multi-level Marketing Supervision Act by failing to file with the FTC before changing its office location. The FTC imposed an administrative fine of NT$50,000 on the company.

What you mentioned are typical MLM tactics.

Have anyone heard of this company - oriental Inchaway Pte ltd? Heard they are selling amazing oil products from Sacha Inchi oil - that claims to be able to help people cure cancer, eczema or skin problems, will make you look 20 years younger, weight loss etc..

According to global research and survey, Sacha Inchi oil is found to have contained rich polyunsaturated fatty acids, it is very beneficial to chronic diseases which are caused by malnutrition due to unbalanced diet. Other than being of great value to health, Sacha Inchi is believed to be able to create huge economic value.

Not sure is this mlm or pyramid selling, but generally public are invited for “dinners” so that they can hear about the products and how to join as members. The oil are sold at $100 per bottle. While I am not particular sure how membership works (happy to find out if you guys have experience on this) basically you will be preached on how you can earn money, buy branded cars and even resign from normal job just from selling this oil..

Sounds Super miraculous products they are selling so I am keen to invest if it’s NOT illegal!! I would like to hear all your views on this!

As far as I know, there is no definite cure for cancer.

2 common methods, chemotherapy and radiation therapy, do not guarantee an absolute recovery too.

 

[Iamhuman2]

MLM company



What you mentioned are typical MLM tactics.



As far as I know, there is no definite cure for cancer.

2 common methods, chemotherapy and radiation therapy, do not guarantee an absolute recovery too.

So is MLM illegal in Singapore?

 

[Shion]

So is MLM illegal in Singapore?

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/is-multi-level-marketingmlm-legal/

 

[aarontansp]

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/is-multi-level-marketingmlm-legal/

Stand up in the middle of the talk and scream "MLM is illegal, I will report you!"
Then walk out. No one will dare to stop you. Don't be surprise some will walk out after you leave.

 

[BusinessAbecedarian]

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/is-multi-level-marketingmlm-legal/

Thank you for this solid link i did my research recently when CEO Eldee Tang is now into this e-commerce platform called V-more however i cant share my links due to being a new member, hope you could help me spread awareness to better prepare the community against any possible scams!