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I think only Aorus has that. But my build don’t have any aorus parts lol
Yup, I think only Gigabyte has a 3x NVME SSD slot for the B550 chipset. Just something to consider. Whether you get it or not, depends on yourself. I don’t see the point of sticking to a single brand just to make the rig “consistent“ with the same brand components, while depriving yourself of features that could be useful. ;)
 

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actually quite curious, why not just get those pcie expansion cards with multiple nvme slots? no need headache over which motherboard to buy.
I would go for this option. In fact I keep one of this expansion card handy in case I need it. However, this depends on individual‘s preference.
 

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actually quite curious, why not just get those pcie expansion cards with multiple nvme slots? no need headache over which motherboard to buy.

Hey bro, actually new to pc building so i have limited knowledge. lol mind sharing more?
 

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actually quite curious, why not just get those pcie expansion cards with multiple nvme slots? no need headache over which motherboard to buy.
ok so i read about it, if my board only has 1 x pcie 4.0 x 16 currently used for my 3070ti, im left with the lower slot which is the pcie 3.0? so if my expansion card supports 4.0 m.2, but it's plugged into a 3.0 x 16 slot, would it still work as 4.0 for the m.2? sorry just a quick read so not sure if i understand it correctly. the expansion card goes into the gpu slot kind right?
 

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ok so i read about it, if my board only has 1 x pcie 4.0 x 16 currently used for my 3070ti, im left with the lower slot which is the pcie 3.0? so if my expansion card supports 4.0 m.2, but it's plugged into a 3.0 x 16 slot, would it still work as 4.0 for the m.2? sorry just a quick read so not sure if i understand it correctly. the expansion card goes into the gpu slot kind right?
For everyday usage gen 3 nad gen 4 no difference unless u telling me everyday u copy a few Terabytes.
 

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Am I wrong to say, as a general rule of thumb, avoid AsRock motherboards (particularly the Phantom Gaming variant) :p?
 

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even x570 also wont give you full two 4x slots....unless you run gpu at 8x

zen3 has 24 4.0 lanes in total,16x + 4x + 4x. the last 4x is shared between all other i/o like lan, wifi, sata, hence i believe it wont give exclusive 4x lanes to your 2nd nvme...but think also wont lose much in perf unless you hammer that last 4x lanes with load... :o

never tested this theory

it's true story
 

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Any Low end board in general... Asrock/Gigabyte got highlighted for b660m
Horses for courses, low end board is fine for up to non-K i5. No point you buy a lower-end CPU then spend twice as much on a mobo when you don't need good VRM to run it, that's a waste of money. Might as well get a better CPU and get better performance.

Am I wrong to say, as a general rule of thumb, avoid AsRock motherboards (particularly the Phantom Gaming variant) :p?
Depends specifically which board. Try not to look at brand by brand because they will start slipping in shitty models and overpricing them because they know consumers are willing to pay more for the brand. Lately Asus is guilty of this with their Prime models. Nowadays, HardwareUnboxed and PremiumBuilds got a lot of comparisons of low-end boards, very easy to see which one is best.
 

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Horses for courses, low end board is fine for up to non-K i5. No point you buy a lower-end CPU then spend twice as much on a mobo when you don't need good VRM to run it, that's a waste of money. Might as well get a better CPU and get better performance.


Depends specifically which board. Try not to look at brand by brand because they will start slipping in shitty models and overpricing them because they know consumers are willing to pay more for the brand. Lately Asus is guilty of this with their Prime models. Nowadays, HardwareUnboxed and PremiumBuilds got a lot of comparisons of low-end boards, very easy to see which one is best.
I think that depends. Some budget boards are known to throttle even with an i5. So as you mentioned, one should always do their due diligence to check reviews before buying. While it is classified as a budget board, to me, it should at least allow my CPU to run at full speed.
 

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I think that depends. Some budget boards are known to throttle even with an i5. So as you mentioned, one should always do their due diligence to check reviews before buying. While it is classified as a budget board, to me, it should at least allow my CPU to run at full speed.
Specifically which board are you talking about actually? From what I saw, even the B660M-HDV which was so widely criticised ran an i5 12400 at full speed just fine. And that's for Intel, for AMD you can even run a 3900X on a B550M DS3H without throttling which is pretty crazy.
 

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ok so i read about it, if my board only has 1 x pcie 4.0 x 16 currently used for my 3070ti, im left with the lower slot which is the pcie 3.0? so if my expansion card supports 4.0 m.2, but it's plugged into a 3.0 x 16 slot, would it still work as 4.0 for the m.2? sorry just a quick read so not sure if i understand it correctly. the expansion card goes into the gpu slot kind right?
nope, in this case it will still be gen3. same thing if u plug a gen4 gpu into a gen3 slot, the slot wont magically become gen4 capable (see shenanigans regarding 6500xt in gen3 systems). if worried about running the nvmes at full speed, better to plug the expansion card into the gen4 x16 slot and ur 3070ti into the gen3 x16 slot, current gpus are still not fully utilising gen4 speeds at x16 bandwidth.
 

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actually quite curious, why not just get those pcie expansion cards with multiple nvme slots? no need headache over which motherboard to buy.
Does pcie expension card also classify be it gen 3 or gen 4 category?

Are the ic connector in expension card disregard the pcie bus speed?
 

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looks like it.
Many thanks, I guess the selection of expansion card need to be consider carefully too whether it is gen 3 or 4 so no bottleneck of the SSD issue.

If I were to buy a gen 3 expansion card by putting in gen 4 nvme SSD, this I believe will only allow me to run gen 3 speed irrespective which slot I plug into x570 motherboard due to the IC controller chip in expansion card only allow gen 3 speed.

Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect.
 

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If I were to buy a gen 3 expansion card by putting in gen 4 nvme SSD, this I believe will only allow me to run gen 3 speed irrespective which slot I plug into x570 motherboard due to the IC controller chip in expansion card only allow gen 3 speed.

Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect.
Exactly right. It will be bottlenecked by the card.
 
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