need help for budget "high end" build

[wolnavi]

Your $2K inclusive of monitor, headphone, peripherals and mousepad?

Need OS and/or WiFi adapter?

yes all include, no need OS as will be getting it from reddit, i dont think need wifi adapter, most likely using wired connection

budget isn't strictly 2k though fyi, just not above 2.5k

 

[dannytan87]

GSYNC is to stop tearing from occuring.....

the graphic card flushes out the frames from the frame buffer(vram) per 0.3 second (iirc). and if your vram has more frame then the fresh rate of the monitor then you have tearing. most monitor is 60 hertz, the physical monitor can flash 60 frames per second, but when there is more frame flushing out from the vram, the frames get flushes to incorrect timing, overlapping frames or frames that shows half of it and half of the next frame.

like your card can do 180fps for 1080p then the 180 fps have to squeeze into the 60 frames shown on screen...... overlapping and tearing....... VSYNC cap the flushing from vram to 60 frames

970 is just nice for 1440p, there wont be much tearing in the first place..... if you have 1440p and 970 dun even need gsync in the first place.

i rather buy 1440p than a 1080p gsync. 970 is about just nice for 1440p. 980ti for 2140p and dual triple display for sli.......

you must reach significantly more than 60 fps, like 100+ fps, to have tearing problem..... GsYNC sole purpose to address tearing.....

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movie from USA is playing 23 fps (ntsc) and singapore disc dvd bluray is at 30fps. you pump adrenline excited the eye pupil enlarge also about up to 60 frames per second nia. maybe some ppl can reach 144 fps per second ba, some.

GSYNC monitor can flash more frames per second.

 

[Goodshot]

2k system without ssd is like eating kfc without the skin

 

[dannytan87]

2k system without ssd is like eating kfc without the skin

eric carteman stole the skin.....

 

[wolnavi]

GSYNC is to stop tearing from occuring.....

the graphic card flushes out the frames from the frame buffer(vram) per 0.3 second (iirc). and if your vram has more frame then the fresh rate of the monitor then you have tearing. most monitor is 60 hertz, the physical monitor can flash 60 frames per second, but when there is more frame flushing out from the vram, the frames get flushes to incorrect timing, overlapping frames or frames that shows half of it and half of the next frame.

like your card can do 180fps for 1080p then the 180 fps have to squeeze into the 60 frames shown on screen...... overlapping and tearing....... VSYNC cap the flushing from vram to 60 frames

970 is just nice for 1440p, there wont be much tearing in the first place..... if you have 1440p and 970 dun even need gsync in the first place.

i rather buy 1440p than a 1080p gsync. 970 is about just nice for 1440p. 980ti for 2140p and dual triple display for sli.......

you must reach significantly more than 60 fps, like 100+ fps, to have tearing problem..... GsYNC sole purpose to address tearing.....

ohhhhh i thought it was to like to replace v sync boost fps... looks like i was very very wrong

2k system without ssd is like eating kfc without the skin

LOL

 

[dannytan87]

increase the resolution also increases the detail, therefore less aliasing. only budget ppl like me need to FXAA the crap out of 900p monitor due to lack of details and jaggy outlines.......

 

[kaixax555]

Anyway hate to break it to you, but Gsync monitors are really expensive

The Asus PG278Q 144Hz G-Sync monitor costs about 1.2k (easily more than half your 2k budget)

So let us settle on a cheaper monitor lol.

And with your new requirements, I need to update my recommendations.

If I don't exceed your 2k budget
i5-4460 + MSI H81M-E35 @308
2x4GB Crucial DDR3-1600 @64
WD Blue 1TB @71
Samsung DVD Drive @21
Sapphire R9 390 @545
Superflower Leadex Gold @149
Corsair 100R @89
Optional: Transcend SSD370 256GB @132

Dell S2340L @ 219
Technica ATH-AD700x @198

Leaving around 204 dollars for a decent gaming keyboard + mouse
Probably a Razer Blackwidow + Abyssus?

 

[wolnavi]

Anyway hate to break it to you, but Gsync monitors are really expensive

The Asus PG278Q 144Hz G-Sync monitor costs about 1.2k (easily more than half your 2k budget)

So let us settle on a cheaper monitor lol.

And with your new requirements,

i5-4460 + MSI H81M-E35 @308
2x4GB Crucial DDR3-1600 @64
WD Blue 1TB @71
Samsung DVD Drive @21
Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X @888
Superflower Leadex Gold @149
Corsair 100R @89
Total 1590 for main rig

Which leaves about 500 to 1000 for your accessories...

ok no g sync monitors then

is amd really good? sorry arh i abit nvidia fanboy

 

[dannytan87]

you can go for (sharp GIZO) dell 4k panel, or the pro art asus panel? for 10 bit (normal is 8 bit) color accuracy IPS panel if you got the moolah.....

or the TN for response time(the time for each frame to change)..... 1ms........

 

[dannytan87]

ok no g sync monitors then

is amd really good? sorry arh i abit nvidia fanboy

truth be told nvidia just have better game driver and tdp, power efficient, they have impose a TDP limit too i think is less than 200 watts can remember how much

TDP watts is the resistance (v=ir thingy) AND HEAT

AMD have "cost effectiveness" (mostly apply in US) and compute performance in terms of tera flop, like how much calculation can be done per second. they usually have more core (stream processor).......

AMD good for bit coin mining, render graphic, calculate floating points......

nvidia expensive but have sightly lesser problem ingame......

 

[wolnavi]

you can go for (sharp GIZO) dell 4k panel, or the pro art asus panel? for 10 bit (normal is 8 bit) color accuracy IPS panel if you got the moolah.....

or the TN for response time(the time for each frame to change)..... 1ms........

wa 4k @ 1ms... i don't think can fit my budget...

truth be told nvidia just have better game driver and tdp, power efficient, they have impose a TDP limit too i think is less than 200 watts can remember how much

TDP watts is the resistance (v=ir thingy) AND HEAT

AMD have "cost effectiveness" (mostly apply in US) and compute performance in terms of tera flop, like how much calculation can be done per second. they usually have more core (stream processor).......

AMD good for bit coin mining, render graphic, calculate floating points......

nvidia expensive but have sightly lesser problem ingame......

so in short nvidia is better for gaming and amd is better for "professional" use?

 

[kaixax555]

ok no g sync monitors then

is amd really good? sorry arh i abit nvidia fanboy

AMD and Nvidia are the same to me. Used both before, feels about the same so I don't take sides.

I recommend cards based on their performance at their price point, unless one has specific needs like CUDA.

 

[wolnavi]

AMD and Nvidia are the same to me. Used both before, feels about the same so I don't take sides.

I recommend cards based on their performance at their price point, unless one has specific needs like CUDA.

oh ok then, just asking, your price is from which shop?

 

[dannytan87]

wa 4k @ 1ms... i don't think can fit my budget...



so in short nvidia is better for gaming and amd is better for "professional" use?

4k @ 1ms is the monitor change the whole screen image in 1ms..... TN is using a like of crystal that is super responsive, the crystal is lay over the back lighting, and current flows through the crystal changes the RGB sub pixels..... IPS is the other type of tech no the same as TN....... IPS has better color and viewing angles but slowing in the changing of the whole panel image. there is PLS by samsung, and IGZO(also IPS, but improved version, brighter more vivid due to the amount of back light passing through the overlay).............

you see AMD always with mac work station, cos artist need rendering power..... AMD also mostly use opengl.......

AMD has hardware superior, nvidia have better software team and better power efficient(due to architecture design, maxwell have groups of cores for subdividing the task, unlike AMD design GCN is all shader is individually operational)..........

TN are cheaper, see wad you play... play FPS games TN panel better, cos the panel change faster, wont have residual images (ghosting) like 1 patch of color from the previous frame.....

 

[kaixax555]

oh ok then, just asking, your price is from which shop?

I use Tradepac as reference for prices

$face and royfrosty will use Lazada because you can get some stuff cheaper there, but I just use Tradepac because some people might prefer to get everything from one place instead of getting from many places to get cheapest deals.

 

[wolnavi]

4k @ 1ms is the monitor change the whole screen image in 1ms..... TN is using a like of crystal that is super responsive, the crystal is lay over the back lighting, and current flows through the crystal changes the RGB sub pixels..... IPS is the other type of tech no the same as TN....... IPS has better color and viewing angles but slowing in the changing of the whole panel image. there is PLS by samsung, and IGZO(also IPS, but improved version, brighter more vivid due to the amount of back light passing through the overlay).............

you see AMD always with mac work station, cos artist need rendering power..... AMD also mostly use opengl.......

AMD has hardware superior, nvidia have better software team and better power efficient(due to architecture design, maxwell have groups of cores for subdividing the task, unlike AMD design GCN is all shader is individually operational)..........

TN are cheaper, see wad you play... play FPS games TN panel better, cos the panel change faster, wont have residual images (ghosting) like 1 patch of color from the previous frame.....

oic
ya fps, maybe some gta 5 too

 

[MoneyFace =p]

***UPDATED***

ASUS ROG feel red/white/black themed PC

CPU+MB: Intel Core i5-4460 + ASRock Fatal1ty B85 Killer @ $342
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3-1600 CL9 8GB Dual Channel Kit [Red] @ $92
GPU: ASUS GTX 970 4GB Turbo OC @ $488
SSD: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB @ $299
Free Samsung Vacuum Cleaner.
Collection from Orchard Central. First come first serve.
HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $69
ODD: Samsung 24X CD/DVD Writer [OEM] @ $21
PSU: Seasonic G 550W [80 Plus Gold] @ $115
CASE: Corsair Carbide SPEC-02 @ $84
DSP: Dell UltraSharp U2414H 23.8" 1080p 60Hz LED [AH-IPS] @ $329
HS: Kingston HyperX Cloud [Red] @ $149 (Xtreme Solutions)
Get more professional advice from this thread:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...hones-recommendations-thread-3788027-306.html
KB: SteelSeries Apex M800 [Mechanical] @ $299 (Cybermind)
Best, fastest keyboard you can find on earth.
MS: Logitech G502 Proteus Core [Optical] @ $86*** (Lazada Singapore)
MP: SteelSeries QcK+ @ $39 (Fuwell)

Total: $2412

Optional:
OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Product Key [OEM] @ $33 (G2A)
Could be a better lobang for you
Download ISO here.

Buy others from Tradepac, #05-18.

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[wolnavi]

I use Tradepac as reference for prices

$face and royfrosty will use Lazada because you can get some stuff cheaper there, but I just use Tradepac because some people might prefer to get everything from one place instead of getting from many places to get cheapest deals.

aww dang, because i dont know how put the parts in so im thinking of going to pc themes and buy and build all there unless tradepac helps to put in the parts

 

[dannytan87]

oic
ya fps, maybe some gta 5 too

TN panel is mostly 1ms(milisecond lor). every milisecond the image can be changed. the crystal just zap change,zap change in 1 ms......

 

[wolnavi]

ASUS ROG feel red/white/black themed PC

CPU+MB: Intel Core i5-4460 + ASRock Fatal1ty B85 Killer @ $342
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3-1600 CL9 8GB Dual Channel Kit [Red] @ $92
GPU: ASUS GTX 970 4GB Turbo OC @ $488
SSD: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB @ $299
Free Samsung Vacuum Cleaner.
Collection from Orchard Central. First come first serve.
HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $69
ODD: Samsung 24X CD/DVD Writer [OEM] @ $21
PSU: Seasonic G 550W [80 Plus Gold] @ $115
CASE: Corsair Carbide SPEC-02 @ $84
DSP: Dell UltraSharp U2414H 23.8" 1080p 60Hz LED [AH-IPS] @ $329
HS: Logitech G430 Surround Sound Gaming Headset @ $99 (PC Themes)
Get more professional advice from this thread:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...hones-recommendations-thread-3788027-306.html
KB: SteelSeries Apex M800 [Mechanical] @ $299 (Cybermind)
Best, fastest keyboard you can find on earth.
MS: Logitech G502 Proteus Core [Optical] @ $86*** (Lazada Singapore)

Total: $2323

Optional:
OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Product Key [OEM] @ $33 (G2A)
Could be a better lobang for you
Download ISO here.

Buy others from Tradepac, #05-18.

thanks dude ill consider this too