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davidktw

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The main storage is actually fibre channel san... The nas is for backup storage only ... So still flexible to try.
As for the vaai, i dont understand also... Maybe the processor in the nas not fast enough for block?

I don't think it requires high processing power for VAAI. All these operations are basically offloading to the storage subsystem that it does not need to traverse back and forth between the storage and the ESXi host. Traditionally to zeros out a block disk, the ESXi need to send these number of data to the storage subsystem. Using VAAI, ESXi just need to issue out a command and it will be done internally by the storage subsystem. Same for cloning and moving of VM. All internal to the NAS.
 

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You can request quote from these local Synology distros:

Memory World (S) Pte Ltd

ACE Peripherals Private Limited

Ask for reseller pricing if you are getting through your company.

If getting from Memory World, you can call their SLS office and ask for David (one of their sales guy).
Gave up ACE for quotation.

Called in last friday(25/01), promised that Monday would give me a quotation, but they didn't.

Yesterday called them to ask for it again, told me would send an email to me yesterday and no, i didn't receive anything till today. Ask me some question which I replied promptly and they did not reply at all.

I mean, a quote for consumer, is that so difficult ?
 

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Gave up ACE for quotation.

Called in last friday(25/01), promised that Monday would give me a quotation, but they didn't.

Yesterday called them to ask for it again, told me would send an email to me yesterday and no, i didn't receive anything till today. Ask me some question which I replied promptly and they did not reply at all.

I mean, a quote for consumer, is that so difficult ?
Sorry to hear about that.

You can try getting quote from another local Synology distro, ETERNAL ASIA (S) PTE LTD.
They are the distro for Engenius products as well.

Contact us - Eternal Asia (S) Pte Ltd

Take note, they have a branch office at SLS where you can collect your items.
Their new warehouse is at Penjuru area there, its no longer at IMM building.
 

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Sorry to hear about that.

You can try getting quote from another local Synology distro, ETERNAL ASIA (S) PTE LTD.
They are the distro for Engenius products as well.

Contact us - Eternal Asia (S) Pte Ltd

Take note, they have a branch office at SLS where you can collect your items.
Their new warehouse is at Penjuru area there, its no longer at IMM building.
Will give them a call tml to find out more about them.

Meanwhile, MediaPro @ SLS seems to be able to offer competitive prices too. Any feedback ?
 

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David I thank for taking the effort to explain the details that are often hidden in the tech specs. Grin great pointers on networks and how to check for (true) performance. I learnt alot for your replies and have a better appreciation of the issue. You cleared up a lot of mistakes in understanding and misinformation I had gotten along the way - it is always a pleasure to interact with an expert in the field.
 

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If you are ok with mediapro prices, just get it there.

The shop is reputable.

Will give them a call tml to find out more about them.

Meanwhile, MediaPro @ SLS seems to be able to offer competitive prices too. Any feedback ?
 

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David I thank for taking the effort to explain the details that are often hidden in the tech specs. Grin great pointers on networks and how to check for (true) performance. I learnt alot for your replies and have a better appreciation of the issue. You cleared up a lot of mistakes in understanding and misinformation I had gotten along the way - it is always a pleasure to interact with an expert in the field.

The pleasure is mine.
 

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Hi ,

I'm new to NAS, few months ago I purchased Buffalo Personal Cloud Storage , which I sold back after a week because even to copy using local connection it requires forever to copy 1 GB file. Eventhough to have the bitorent feature is nice.

I was told that Synology is the best.

I would want to ask for recommendation which NAS should I buy in Singapore , I will need fast copy on local connection, other features is bonus.

Thank you in advance!

I totally understand how you feel.

After much research ... I have realised that the best "value for $$" solution is to setup a very low end DIY PC with 4GB/8GB ram with onboard gfx and mATX board.

The transfer rate over Gigabit is about 100MB/s-125MB/s ... SHIOK!!
 

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Hi yes is gbit, the LAN cable need to be special? Because I just use the one come with the box which suppose to be gbit compbatible right? I tried in my office also receive same speed.

My budget around $300 - $600

Once again ... get a DIY PC as NAS ... to enjoy fast transfer speed.
 

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What do you need to read up on?

Just finalised the spec .. and decide which OS to use.

And then? It will magically become a NAS? :)
I am also interested to know, what comes after decide on an OS?
 

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And then? It will magically become a NAS? :)
I am also interested to know, what comes after decide on an OS?

installation of os, configure share paths and etc?

:s22:

I will not advise for DIY if technically not strong. budden again, you dont need to be very strong to diy 1.

no point getting headaches, just buy a NAS imo.
 

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Will give them a call tml to find out more about them.

Meanwhile, MediaPro @ SLS seems to be able to offer competitive prices too. Any feedback ?

Sorry for the late reply.

For end consumers, better just get from retailers.
Most of the shops selling Synology at SLS get their stocks from Memoryworld anyway.
Some do give better pricing than the rest.

If you are not in a hurry or urgently needing the NAS, perhaps can wait for the IT Show in March for better offers. :D
 

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Sorry for the late reply.

For end consumers, better just get from retailers.
Most of the shops selling Synology at SLS get their stocks from Memoryworld anyway.
Some do give better pricing than the rest.

If you are not in a hurry or urgently needing the NAS, perhaps can wait for the IT Show in March for better offers. :D
Yeah, I found out that too.

Anyway, got my DS413 + 2x2TB Red today. What a big hole to my pocket. haha :D
 

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I did do a series of videos to setup a basic ubuntu NAS:

DIY NAS - SwiftNAS - YouTube

That's very nice of you, I believe people interested in building their own NAS will certainly find your videos very useful.

No worries, I didn't ask the question because I want to know how. If anyone can pay me, I can even built a Highly Available NAS solution that works between 2 systems to ensure extremely high uptime.

I just find sometimes people underestimated these consumer solution outside thinking that it's a simple solution.

One is power consumption, good NAS solution can offer extremely low power consumption through specially chosen PSU of small form factor that is not easily available. Also they come in niche form factor with multi bay slots well placed with the best intention to save space and also provide good airflow. Having good airflow also means less powerful fans require to properly ventilate the heat. My synology doesn't even purr(virtually no sound) in the middle of a silent night. I can't say the same for a self build NAS that runs 24by7. Also the integration with a UPS is not necessarily easy. Not all mainboard's sata controller are hot-pluggable. Compliance to AHCI doesn't' necessary mean hot swappable.

It's also not a brainless feat to expand a DIY NAS by adding new drives to expand the volume size, migrate from one RAID to another, or even harddisk failure replacement.

All these while can be achieved in a DIY NAS are not in comparison easier than a commercial NAS. Also I don't suppose everyone that wanted a NAS is also a linux user. Who can Windows free ? Can you compare the resource of a Windows OS to a console server linux ? Which means no UI for the person performing the DIY, all pure console instructions ?

So you see, sometimes all these convenience are not cheap, that's why a good NAS is not cheap.

I know one can argue I don't need all these stuffs. My answer to this argument is simple
"There is a difference between you don't want and you don't have".

That been said, I'm not discouraging anyone adventurous enough to try DIY your own NAS, but rather be sure you know what you are doing. People buy a NAS other than convenience, also include things like they can't be sure if the DIY NAS they built can withstand real disaster when the NAS fails or the harddisk fails. Without these knowledge, there is no good value to built your own NAS when you cant secure the reliability of your data.

Hence if you don't know how all these things work under the hood, then get a commercial NAS. Let the experts deliver a proven product to you. If you understand all these technicalities, feel free to get your hands dirty. It's always a trade between EFFORT and COST.
 

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For home users, Wake-up on LAN is a very useful feature as there is no need to keep the NAS running 24/7.

Another point about DIY is the software you are going to use. I bought a WDAnywhere and it came with a 5 licence memeo mirroring software which is superb. Furthermore you can use the software not just to mirror to the WD drive but to anywhere in the network, including your DIY NAS.

Another issue with DIY NAS using old PCs is that the quality of motherboards seems to be dropping... i've been experiencing regular motherboard failure where the motherboard is more than 5 years old... -> all the more reason not to leave your DIY NAS running 24/7 - keep on standby with WOL.
 
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