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No one plays those games at monitor refresh rates. Player playing at 200fps using 60hz monitor does see better performance over another one playing at 60fps with the same 60hz monitor. Check YouTube...

Nah.. just because CS:GO can't play at low FPS doesn't mean the other games also have the same issue.

I agree CS:GO is unplayable at 60fps, i used to be GE/SMFC.. and can tell difference in subtle lags. If you think i am smoking you can add me on steam and view my screenshots (lol).

Past few weeks, I made a video to show capped vs uncapped frame in dota 2 here and more than half the people couldn't tell the difference. You were one of them.

? I don't play dota2 but your 2 videos got lag and stutters meh? seems ok to me leh...

I then send the video links to my friends that were really into competitive and they could tell right away. There are people out there that can tell subtle differences very clearly.

I don't think other titles have that much impact as i have played them as well.
 
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Nah.. just because CS:GO can't play at low FPS doesn't mean the other games also have the same issue.

I agree CS:GO is unplayable at 60fps, i used to be GE/SMFC.. and i know how to tell difference in subtle lags.

I even made a video to show capped vs uncapped frame in dota 2 here and more than half the people couldn't tell the difference. You were one of them.



I then send the video links to my friends that are really into competitive and they could tell right away.

I don't think other titles have that much impact as i have played them as well.

Not not more than half, it was ALL at least in that thread of yours. And what is the point here telling us you are competitive player and that I cannot see the stutter of your previous video?

Let's get back to topic, first of all he is already using 144hz monitor, so you want him to cap his 60fps at his old 60hz monitor or new 144hz monitor?

And come on, would anyone wanna play their overwatch at 60fps knowing full well one's rig can do more than that...this is not solving issue...

And though I am not as 'competitive' as you, I know I cannot play overwatch at 60fps.
 
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ok i record and upload videos. The overwatch i limit it to 80 fps in the middle

But i can't post links? Anyone can go youtube and search lvl3tal it should shows up
 

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ok i record and upload videos. The overwatch i limit it to 80 fps in the middle

But i can't post links? Anyone can go youtube and search lvl3tal it should shows up

sorry, not convenient to watch youtube now but anyway I am not the best person to judge if there is any choppiness or not too. Let the professional do the judging.

But why cap your play at 80fps? doing that is also not showing full scale of your original issue.

Have you check for malware/virus at least?
 

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sorry, not convenient to watch youtube now but anyway I am not the best person to judge if there is any choppiness or not too. Let the professional do the judging.

But why cap your play at 80fps? doing that is also not showing full scale of your original issue.

Have you check for malware/virus at least?

Its unlimited fps in the beginning then in the middle in limit 80fps to see difference. No virus, infact i reformat twice before.
 

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Its an Aftershock PC, its very likely still under warranty. Bring it in and bang table with the techs there to work smth out. Unlike generic big name brands out there where u only get to talk to a cust svc rep and never ever see a tech nor get a chance to bang table, you get to bang table with the techs themselves. Use that to your advantage and find out why your perceived flaws in the pc are happening.

i7 7700 and 1070 will NEVER be overwhelmed by any game out there rn at 1080p max settings. So ignore those telling u to upgrade. Those specs are optimal 1080p gaming specs for any game alr.
 

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Its an Aftershock PC, its very likely still under warranty. Bring it in and bang table with the techs there to work smth out. Unlike generic big name brands out there where u only get to talk to a cust svc rep and never ever see a tech nor get a chance to bang table, you get to bang table with the techs themselves. Use that to your advantage and find out why your perceived flaws in the pc are happening.

i7 7700 and 1070 will NEVER be overwhelmed by any game out there rn at 1080p max settings. So ignore those telling u to upgrade. Those specs are optimal 1080p gaming specs for any game alr.

lol i wish i dare to bang table. Yeah its still under warranty until next year. As i said i bring it to them before, the tech said gameplay no problem, temperature also normal. CPU 80-90 GPU 84 normal?( i had to undervolt the GPU) nice joke. Can feel like ''Its no problem just go la''
 

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lol i wish i dare to bang table. Yeah its still under warranty until next year. As i said i bring it to them before, the tech said gameplay no problem, temperature also normal. CPU 80-90 GPU 84 normal?( i had to undervolt the GPU) nice joke. Can feel like ''Its no problem just go la''

Ok, like i said i am not the best person to tell if it is choppy or not and somemore YT video renders at 60p. CPU at 80-90 i supposed it is not usual but may not be the cause of your issue as it did not throttle right?

Last time when i had my 4k gync and i played overwatch and fifa, it stutters...i off my gsync for that 2 games...after all there is no need for gsync when your fps is so high. However when i changed to 144hz 1440p gsync, those 2 games did not stutters despite gsync ON. Try it without gsync and see what is your result. It may not works for you since you said you already had this issue at day 1 using normal 60hz monitor.

Edit: Both fifa and OW i'm still turning gsync off in new 144hz gsync monitor. Monitor technology choose 'fixed refresh'. Preferred refresh rate choose highest available, vsync choose Off.

Right now using nvidia driver 399.07, you may wanna try but I am using 1080ti. Last time when using 1070 i was using driver 378.78, both i have no issue. You do use DDU to uninstall driver first and install driver at OS's drive right?

You mentioned you format your disk...your OS disk? are those games inside your OS drive as well? if not, did you format both OS drive and games drive? Maybe get a new SSD for OS and see how?
 
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lol i wish i dare to bang table. Yeah its still under warranty until next year. As i said i bring it to them before, the tech said gameplay no problem, temperature also normal. CPU 80-90 GPU 84 normal?( i had to undervolt the GPU) nice joke. Can feel like ''Its no problem just go la''

Cpu 80-90 and gpu 84 is FAR from normal seeing as thats a desktop. That is abnormally high. Either your cpu and gpu are both faulty or the cooling solution in that computer u got is complete crap.

Am surprised the AS techs were this dismissive.
 

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This is not the first time I have seen AS saying this type of temp is normal. Think got another older post from another AS user also encountered them telling him this temp is normal also. 84 gpu temp is not normal as this type of gpu temp the gpu could already be thermal throttling thus affecting gpu performance and frame rate. Cpu at 80-90 also very hot and not normal for gaming.

Probably will only hit this type of temp if you run prime95 cpu stress test but for gaming at this temp? That is no good and not normal unless you tell me you are running background rendering task while gaming then its normal. But if you only running 1 game like OW, csgo that is pathetically hot.


I suspect your cpu cooler maybe faulty or never install properly. Or your case airflow is very bad or case fan orientation mount in wrong direction causing case temp inside to be very hot.
 

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This is not the first time I have seen AS saying this type of temp is normal. Think got another older post from another AS user also encountered them telling him this temp is normal also. 84 gpu temp is not normal as this type of gpu temp the gpu could already be thermal throttling thus affecting gpu performance and frame rate. Cpu at 80-90 also very hot and not normal for gaming.

Probably will only hit this type of temp if you run prime95 cpu stress test but for gaming at this temp? That is no good and not normal unless you tell me you are running background rendering task while gaming then its normal. But if you only running 1 game like OW, csgo that is pathetically hot.


I suspect your cpu cooler maybe faulty or never install properly. Or your case airflow is very bad or case fan orientation mount in wrong direction causing case temp inside to be very hot.

Hmm, can concur w u there. HWZ admin told me their tests on their 'BRILLIANT' review Prime 15 with 1070 hit 80 degs max on the GPU under load. Bring to Aftershock and forced the tech to change my fans, thermal repaste, techs there tell me for Prime 15 1060 version, 85-90 Degs is normal on GPU under load hmm...

@TS what he said. Sounds like your cooling solution(fans and/or heatsink not connected properly) could be messing up the com
 

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Laptop fan profiles run by operating temperature targets, not low temps. Around 50C range and below, many will switch to passive fan profile.

70+c on moderate load is typical, for discrete GPUs you'd typically use capped framerates since the heat sinks (sometimes conjoined cpu+gpu sink) don't usually support simultaneously running both at full TDP.

For the "laptop plague" even for notebooks dated say many years ago, the common load temps on overwhelmed coolers are cpu ~88-92c, GPU in 80s.

Laptops haven't changed even when Aftershock started rebranding clevos.
 
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