KleoZY comments is well received. looks can be deceiving for cases, i have not used the Lianli 011D, thus i recommend based on looks.
actually was meant to recommend Lianli 011 Vision Compact and not the 011D
I got the Deepcool CG530 and its "ok"
ooo ok ok.. but then if recommend Vision Compact and to change the top from glass to mesh.. might as well the O11D EVO RGB. By the way, the Vision compact material or quality is not as good as the O11D EVO RGB, inclusive of modularity. The O11D EVO RGB able to fit 420 liquid AIO (Brackets included), with more modularity features, thats why it's more expensive.
Maybe should ask you
@Sensational, do you need 40G USB 4.0 port? and how many m.2 or SSD or HDD are you using? btw what's your current setup. maybe some of your PC component can reuse.
Just my suggestions
- In general I will spend less on case but it's a must to have good airflow and to cut off fanciful ARGB or LCD, which these 1) generate heat, 2) very expensive and 3) sometimes uncessary headaches for argb application to work properly.
- Best to use Mid Tier stuff. For processor and mobo, best to get from local, so RMA will be easier, as for rams or m.2, can get at amazon, RMA yes! Need to do own shipment but these are smaller items, cheaper to do tracking. Btw RAMs and M.2 seldom spoil, unless on rams, you do overclocking or to force tighter the timings with higher voltage. (Honestly it's silly to do this as your component will degrade faster, even if you have sufficient cooling.)
Hint : If getting from Amazon, make sure seller or shipped by Amazon.sg or Amazon.us, as you have 30 days before returning (if it's defective)
Processor 9800X3D
cheaper and runs cooler as compared to 9850X3D
(9850X3D is just a more overclocked processor to the 9800X3D)
DDR5 RAMS.
Though prices are ridiculous, I personally will grab 32G Kit CL30-36-36-96 @ 6000 1.4v, 6000MHz sweet spot and runs cooler. no point grab anything more or above 6000Mhz M/T.
Motherboard Get local set with warranty.
Budget ATX
A) MSI B850 Tomahawk
B) MSI B850 Edge Ti
C) Asus ROG Strix B850-F (by far the best board without lane sharing compromised. full on X16)
Why no Budget ATX B850
1) Asus - alot of their boards are with messy lane sharing except C). Though other asus mobo GPU that runs on 8x, are of not much impact, but I have tested so far, if populated with all m.2, sometimes system will just go black out or m.2 got disconnected for no reason.
2) ASRock - if you know how to control the VCore and VDDCR_SoC then it will be the ASRock B850 LiveMixer, it's much better compared to B850 Steel Legend, interms of VRM handling and Rams handling.
3) Gigabyte - Their High Tier boards are good but their mid tier is rather disappointing. 1st not true Wi-Fi 7 adaptor as most using MT7925 adaptor which is of 160MHz channel bandwidth instead of 320MHz
If budget is not a constraint and need 40G USB 4.0 with DP functions, inclusive of 5G to 10G port and having good thermal cooling heatsink (VRM , M.2 and Chipset)
A) MSI X870E Carbon
B) MSI X870E Edge Ti
C) Asus ROG Crosshair X870E Dark Hero (revise version and this has 10G Lan port and no utter rubbish lane sharing all over the shot)
D) Gigabyte X870E Aero X3D Wood
Why no Premium ATX
1) ASRock, as mentioned only if know how to control VCore and VDDCR_SoC it will be the ASRock X870E Nova
2) Gigabyte, yes their top tier are good but as time goes by the GCC screw up and you will need it to control the ARGB. especially after windows update. Often leaving me to re-install GCC. except for D) which is expensive. By the way D) is impressive with cooling + 80A choke on VRM Smart phase, more than sufficient.
3) Not all Asus X870E board make sense as again, the lane sharing in a mess. but for C) yes it's expensive but the lane sharing are intact. no hiccup even there are lane sharing between m.2 and 40G USB 4.0.
Budget M-ATX
A) Asus ROG STRIX B850-G GAMING WIFI or ROG STRIX B850-G GAMING WIFI S 小吹雪 (Waifu version)
B) MSI B850M Mortar
C) MSI B850M Edge Ti
A) and C) rock solid super fast ram training cycle, for some reason on AGESA 1.3.0.0.
Including super fast boot time on fresh windows OS installed (min 11.5s ~ 12.6s and max 11.8s ~ 12.8s)
Why no Budget M-ATX B850M
1) ASRock, as mentioned only if know how to control VCore and VDDCR_SoC but overall none of the ASRock M-ATX board impress me. Kind of weak as compared to MSI or ASUS.
2) Gigabyte, most of their M-ATX mobo, I don't like the port arrangement nor do I like the VRM handling, inclusive of their WiFi, majority are of WiFi 6E.
Additional Info
- For MSI B850 boards, whatever ram kit you plug in (32G, 48G, 64G @ CL28~CL32 @ 6000MHz~6400MHz) it will just train and boot.
- Unlike Asus or Gigabyte or ASRock. I have tested a few brands ram kits. some (32G, 48G, 64G @ CL28~CL32 @ 6000MHz~6400MHz) just not able to detect will stuck at C5 or AB if not Debug LED will stay Yellow. even if rams are of QVL Listed
M.2 NVMe SSD - best is 2TB and above
- For Gen 5, if you are into fast randering and compliation for work then this will benefit. Kindly get Gen 5 with dram and not dramless, and with controller SM2505 and Phision E28 (These run cooler at low power as compared to other controllers)
- If it's just for games, like work and leisure.. Gen 4 M.2 is good enough for Windows OS load and game play. my favourite Seagate Firecuda 530 / 520 (Highest TBW) or WD SN850X. both uses good NAND from Micron and Koxia.
- Gen 3 M.2 with high TBW is good enough for storage. you need the durabilty and most Gen 3 run cooler.
Air Cooler
Only 1, the Phantom Spirit 120 Digital EVO very practical Aircooler with segment stats, simple background application and very efficient in cooling AMD 7000 and 9000 mid tier series with PBO2 settings. In addition, it's damn quiet as compared to the rest of the AirCooler I have tested.
Liquid AIO
A) Asus Prime LC360 (super quiet)
B) Phantek PHANTEKS GLACIER ONE 360mm M25 G2 DRGB (quiet with smoothing gentle hum)
C) Lian Li Galahad II 360 (For performance is quiet but for ARGB version,it does give out a slightly high pitch)
Seriously cut the crap on getting LCD liquid AIO
- Liquid AIO will last up to 5 to 6 years. once dead, LCD if fixed on the pump, you can't reuse, except for some which are removable. If needed LCD, best to grab an internal LCD from Truzx Smart Screen, which has a build in Chip and it does not hog on CPU resources
- It generates uncessary heat on the pump block. not alot but will still affect if your case do not have good airflow.
- Hogging background process and worst part that the cache on LCD will accumlate till it will come to a point to have some mulfunction (screen shuttering, ghosting image, not picking up stats properly and etc)
PSU
I will not cheap out on PSU, will allocate $250. I can't say much about PSU as I don't test alot but impressive these PSU
- Montech II Century 1050W (OEM might be new but this is heavily stress on my open bench when I test Liquid AIO, GPU and Mobo when creating content and I love the flat modular cables, easy to cable manage)
- PCCooler YS1000 (OEM Seasonic, good sleeve modular cables but can be tricky if case space is limited)
- Seasonic Vertex GX 1000W (good sleeve modular cables but can be tricky if case space is limited)
Above Mid Tier PSU. So far I only have these two, prices are not cheap but performs well
- Montech Titan PLA 1000W (OEM Seasonic similar build to Seasonic Vertex PX1000W
- Seasonic Vertex PX 1200W
Please note, the above are my own opinion. it's what I've observed and experiment.
Again, kindly do your own due diligence on reasearch.
