New HDB BTO Flat - How do you connect your Home Fiber Network

[gregory_choo]

Looking to deploy the main router either in my DB box or Living room, usage is standard youtube, Netflix and probably some mobile gaming and on PS4

ISP is MyRepublic

your usage profile needs only 30Mbps, if you are viewing 4k netflix/youtube video.

if using handphone for netflix, youtube, gaming. 10Mbps will do.

 

[Champion star]

I have signed Singtel 1Gbps but my speed drops drastically at the point of wireless modem router by using CAT6 cable speed test and it is about 100mbps.
When I plugged the CAT6 cable at the ONR modem, I could get about almost 600mbps.

Is it something wrong or loss at the network cable termination port? Any advise to fix that?

 

[ahsiao80]

I have signed Singtel 1Gbps but my speed drops drastically at the point of wireless modem router by using CAT6 cable speed test and it is about 100mbps.
When I plugged the CAT6 cable at the ONR modem, I could get about almost 600mbps.

Is it something wrong or loss at the network cable termination port? Any advise to fix that?

IMO the wireless router provided by Singtel is crap, but you will also need to factor in other possible issue such as the location of where you did the test, the type of wall, line of sight etc. But getting a better router should be the solution your looking for but budget will also determine how much it will improve

Naturally by using Lan Cable the performance will definitely be much better than wireless

 

[Champion star]

IMO the wireless router provided by Singtel is crap, but you will also need to factor in other possible issue such as the location of where you did the test, the type of wall, line of sight etc. But getting a better router should be the solution your looking for but budget will also determine how much it will improve

Naturally by using Lan Cable the performance will definitely be much better than wireless

If I plugged the CAT6 cable into the wireless modem router, the speed was like 100mpbs for download. But if I plugged into the ONR modem, it was like 600mbps.

Does it because of the network port termination issue?

 

[XiaoFu99]

If I plugged the CAT6 cable into the wireless modem router, the speed was like 100mpbs for download. But if I plugged into the ONR modem, it was like 600mbps.

Does it because of the network port termination issue?

To rule out Singtel issue, perhaps, you can use iPerf3 to test out the link speed. But you need 2 laptop with ethernet port (or USB 3.0 to ethernet 1Gbps dongle) to test out.

If still got problem, maybe you can buy a cheap LAN cable link tester to check any of the 8 wires within the ethernet cable have open?
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=39379777740&spm=a1z09.2.0.0.24912e8dk39BWK&_u=l23angjd6d31

 

[TanKianW]

If I plugged the CAT6 cable into the wireless modem router, the speed was like 100mpbs for download. But if I plugged into the ONR modem, it was like 600mbps.

Does it because of the network port termination issue?

Change another Cat6 cable and test again. If still the same, power cycle your ONR. Do check if your pc doing any update or anyone hogging the bandwidth before the test. If still the same, contact Singtel. Normally, you should get 850-950. Who knows, you might be using a faulty unit.

When using speedtest on Win10, use the app. ISP select Singtel.

 

[gregory_choo]

I have signed Singtel 1Gbps but my speed drops drastically at the point of wireless modem router by using CAT6 cable speed test and it is about 100mbps.
When I plugged the CAT6 cable at the ONR modem, I could get about almost 600mbps.

Is it something wrong or loss at the network cable termination port? Any advise to fix that?

most likely one of the 8 pins is not connected.

try another cable , also another lan port.

 

[Champion star]

most likely one of the 8 pins is not connected.

try another cable , also another lan port.

The network cable from the modem or riser to the terminal point below the TV is concealed. Hence, I use another LAN cable direct plugged at the modem side and I could get a much higher speed instead of about 100Mbps at the terminal point below the TV.

Any idea by default HDB use CAT5 or CAT5e cable?

 

[hellgunner]

My 2 cents.

From whatever limited information that you have provided, it would seem you have either faulty female keystone jack(s) or your hidden cable is damaged.

If you do not know how to troubleshoot yourself, despite all above comments & Google. Please do yourself a favor and engage professional help for faster solutions to your problems.

The network cable from the modem or riser to the terminal point below the TV is concealed. Hence, I use another LAN cable direct plugged at the modem side and I could get a much higher speed instead of about 100Mbps at the terminal point below the TV.

Any idea by default HDB use CAT5 or CAT5e cable?

 

[laclah]

Need some advice on setting up Asus Aimesh or access point.
Which setup is better? Read that Aimesh not very stable.
I have an AC66U which do not support Aimesh, an AC86U and an Asus Lyra Voice (Both support Aimesh).

My ONT is located at the main door (4room bto hdb flat). And have converted all telephone ports to lan ports. I need a router to be at that place, so that I can connect the lan ports to the rooms. Which router should I place there? The AC66U or AC86U? I read that if setting up Aimesh, the better router have to be the main router, while if setting up access point, the better router should be as access point.

I was thinking to setup AC66U as main router at the main door area together with the modem, and connect AC86U as access point via lan to living room, and then also connect lyra voice as access point as well via lan to AC66U in another room.

Or should I setup AC86U as main router at main door, and connect AC66U as access point via lan to living room, and connect lyra voice to AC86U via Aimesh in another room. But I feel that AC86U as main router at the main door area is abit wasted, because no one spend their surfing at the main door area, most of my family members use wifi in the living room and rooms.
Some more, in-between the main door to living room was divided by a wall.

Please advise me. I am not good in networking.

below picture for illustration

 

[BananaRain]

Need some advice on setting up Asus Aimesh or access point.
Which setup is better? Read that Aimesh not very stable.
I have an AC66U which do not support Aimesh, an AC86U and an Asus Lyra Voice (Both support Aimesh).

My ONT is located at the main door (4room bto hdb flat). And have converted all telephone ports to lan ports. I need a router to be at that place, so that I can connect the lan ports to the rooms. Which router should I place there? The AC66U or AC86U? I read that if setting up Aimesh, the better router have to be the main router, while if setting up access point, the better router should be as access point.

I was thinking to setup AC66U as main router at the main door area together with the modem, and connect AC86U as access point via lan to living room, and then also connect lyra voice as access point as well via lan to AC66U in another room.

Or should I setup AC86U as main router at main door, and connect AC66U as access point via lan to living room, and connect lyra voice to AC86U via Aimesh in another room. But I feel that AC86U as main router at the main door area is abit wasted, because no one spend their surfing at the main door area, most of my family members use wifi in the living room and rooms.
Some more, in-between the main door to living room was divided by a wall.

Please advise me. I am not good in networking.

below picture for illustration

Setup 1:
AC66U gives u normal router features
AC86U & Lyra gives u stronger ap signal at these two nodes

Setup 2:
Better router features at AC86U
Weaker signal & weaker hardware to handle multi users at AC66U living room node
(but might be enough to use?)

Setup 3:
wireless aimesh node? think the network throughput at lyra might drop significantly.

U can give it a try on both Setup 1 and setup 2 to compare overall performance.
Considering throughput at each sites, whether cross over between two wifi got give u any inconvenience? Need any special features on AC86U specifically?
Most importantly it should be configured in a way that it could optimally serve ur needs.

 

[giraffey]

Need some advice on setting up Asus Aimesh or access point.
Which setup is better? Read that Aimesh not very stable.
I have an AC66U which do not support Aimesh, an AC86U and an Asus Lyra Voice (Both support Aimesh).

My ONT is located at the main door (4room bto hdb flat). And have converted all telephone ports to lan ports. I need a router to be at that place, so that I can connect the lan ports to the rooms. Which router should I place there? The AC66U or AC86U? I read that if setting up Aimesh, the better router have to be the main router, while if setting up access point, the better router should be as access point.

I was thinking to setup AC66U as main router at the main door area together with the modem, and connect AC86U as access point via lan to living room, and then also connect lyra voice as access point as well via lan to AC66U in another room.

Or should I setup AC86U as main router at main door, and connect AC66U as access point via lan to living room, and connect lyra voice to AC86U via Aimesh in another room. But I feel that AC86U as main router at the main door area is abit wasted, because no one spend their surfing at the main door area, most of my family members use wifi in the living room and rooms.
Some more, in-between the main door to living room was divided by a wall.

Please advise me. I am not good in networking.

below picture for illustration

1) As a general principle, the best wireless router should be used as the router. i.e. Router meaning the device installed after the ONT. The reason being, the router is where all the traffic will flow through. Very often, internet speeds can be slow because of the router (common problem with ISP issued default routers). The main router should support AiMesh since it is the host, and to avoid double NAT.

2) Since your house is already fully wired, things like walls, etc don't really matter. It only matters if you are doing a wireless backhaul.

3) If AiMesh is not supported on the asus router, you can still configure it as an Access Point. The purpose of AiMesh is for smarter roaming (i.e. when moving across the house, you might be switching the access points that the device is connected to. Without smart roaming or "aimesh", the transition - loss of wifi is more prolong)

 

[laclah]

Hi, thanks for all of your replies. I dont need any special features of the AC86U. I just want strong stable signal and speed in the whole home, and at the same time can use the lan ports in all the rooms. So for my case, setup1 or setup2 better?
Say if I go with setup 1, putting the AC66U as the main router, will this lower performance router affects the capability of AC86U and the lyra voice? Actually I only need the 4 lan ports on the AC66U, so do I disable the wireless feature on this router? So that I don't have so many ssid and cause confusion on my devices?

If AC66U as main router will affects the stability and capability of AC86U and lyra voice, i would probably go with setup2, if going with setup 2, will it be better if I swap lyra voice to living room and put AC66U to MBR? problem is lyra voice only got 1 WAN port and 1 LAN port which i can't connect my TV, HTPC, TV box and Philip Hue Bridge via lan. In this case, does a gigabit ethernet switch solve my problem?

 

[laclah]

1) As a general principle, the best wireless router should be used as the router. i.e. Router meaning the device installed after the ONT. The reason being, the router is where all the traffic will flow through. Very often, internet speeds can be slow because of the router (common problem with ISP issued default routers). The main router should support AiMesh since it is the host, and to avoid double NAT.

What does double NAT means?

 

[giraffey]

Hi, thanks for all of your replies. I dont need any special features of the AC86U. I just want strong stable signal and speed in the whole home, and at the same time can use the lan ports in all the rooms. So for my case, setup1 or setup2 better?
Say if I go with setup 1, putting the AC66U as the main router, will this lower performance router affects the capability of AC86U and the lyra voice? Actually I only need the 4 lan ports on the AC66U, so do I disable the wireless feature on this router? So that I don't have so many ssid and cause confusion on my devices?

If AC66U as main router will affects the stability and capability of AC86U and lyra voice, i would probably go with setup2, if going with setup 2, will it be better if I swap lyra voice to living room and put AC66U to MBR? problem is lyra voice only got 1 WAN port and 1 LAN port which i can't connect my TV, HTPC, TV box and Philip Hue Bridge via lan. In this case, does a gigabit ethernet switch solve my problem?

- Wifi signal strength is about placement of the wireless routers and APs. As you are not on wireless backhaul, the units dont need to be in the line of sight.
- Even without AI Mesh, the wireless router without AI Mesh can still be configured as an AP with the same SSID and password. You dont have to use different SSIDs for each wireless router.
- The wireless router that is connected to your ONT should be the AIMesh host.
- It is possible that your 2 rooms might have weaker wifi signals (which results in slower speeds) when the door is closed. If required, you might need to add additional access points there.
- if the wireless router does not have enough LAN outputs, yes, yiu can always add gigabit switches to expand.
- The reason why the better wireless router is recommended as the main router is not because it has more features or wireless connectivity. It is because it has better processors and ram. An alternative is also to get a proper router (without wireless functionality). They tend to perform better than all in one wireless routers.
- double nat happens when you configure a router in router mode after your main router. What happens is that it creates an additional network segment. One main impact is that without additional networking configuration, the 2 networks would not be able to communicate with each other. For example, in network printing or file sharing. Double nat also cause potential issues in gaming and vpn.
- in short, setup 1 or 2 would still work fine.

 

[ahsiao80]

Anyone able to advice which switch should i get for the setup within my DB Box? Basically its TP -> ONT
-> Switch -> Various ports for all Lan point in the house.

TIA!

https://www.lazada.sg/products/tp-l...o42.searchlist.list.5.49f9fdd62MG6CY&search=1

https://www.lazada.sg/products/link...42.searchlist.list.15.49f9fdd6kEiOIJ&search=1

https://www.lazada.sg/products/d-li...42.searchlist.list.21.49f9fdd6kEiOIJ&search=1

 

[gregory_choo]

Anyone able to advice which switch should i get for the setup within my DB Box? Basically its TP -> ONT
-> Switch -> Various ports for all Lan point in the house.

TIA!

https://www.lazada.sg/products/tp-l...o42.searchlist.list.5.49f9fdd62MG6CY&search=1

https://www.lazada.sg/products/link...42.searchlist.list.15.49f9fdd6kEiOIJ&search=1

https://www.lazada.sg/products/d-li...42.searchlist.list.21.49f9fdd6kEiOIJ&search=1

no, you need a router between ont and the switch.

yes, after you added a router

 

[ahsiao80]

no, you need a router between ont and the switch.

yes, after you added a router

so basically its TP -> ONT -> Router -> Switch ye? Any advice on which switch should i get?

 

[loganrunning]

so basically its TP -> ONT -> Router -> Switch ye? Any advice on which switch should i get?

The D-Link and TP-Link are 5 port, the Linksys is 8 port.
for fair comparison, should use all 5 or 8 port.

i guess the d-link and tp-link are in the same category, looking at price and feature list and guarantee.
No comment on Linksys since i've not used them ever since the Cisco takeover.

Also, check the FCC photographs. get the one with the longest warranty, and absence of electrolytic caps - this is not necessarily the cheapest.

If it's just 'net surfing, then really, any of them should do, but...... only the TP-link listing offers a more detailed feature list. you may want to compare that with the other 2, and see which one better matches your requirements.

 

[giraffey]

so basically its TP -> ONT -> Router -> Switch ye? Any advice on which switch should i get?

Unmanaged switches dont really provide much difference across brands for most users. Main thing is the number of ports required. The casing plastic vs metal (metal has better heat dissipation. If going for value for money, can look at tplink.