New PC builder here, need help.

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Storage and Ram get from amazon. PSU get locally. If your balls big, get mobo on amazon for even better pricing. For eg asus strix b550-f 287$ on amazon vs 389 locally. If your balls even bigger, get gpu there also. 3070 msi trio x 740$ vs 969$

I don't think I'll get the mobo from online, since it's a pain to get a CPU solo from the shops (I tried already)
 

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Maybe if u get different types of PSUs and use them equally over 1 year, you can check your electricity bills to compare the real efficiencies. Unless u like to micro manage your bills. haha... I think u can also google up what it actually means.

Last time before the 80+ guide came in 2004, my friends and I use the PSU weight to judge it haha... the heavier the better. Now easier. Just avoid those weird never hear b4 brands can liao. Safe choice is minimum Bronze+

Btw, PSU degrades overtime so usually I like to get higher power Rating and also take advantage of the zero rpm fan thingy. reduce noise pollution at home lol..

Well up to you, the PSU quality today is a far cry from the past. You pay what you get.
 

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Electricity savings are like 10$ per year. People suggest gold rated ones because of longer warranty and better components. There's a psu tier list on LTT forums. Use that as reference. Bronze psu are 3-5 years usually, gold are always 7-10.

Amazon has free shipping above 60$ for prime. You can just sign up for a month (2.99$ nia) use the shipping then cancel. It's way cheaper on amazon.sg vs local except harddisk. Hdd almost same price.

Lol, you don't get gold psu for electricity savings...that's like a marketing ploy that new users all fall for. You get gold for other reasons like voltage ripple,regulation and load response.

Checkout Jonny Guru, he was an expert that most ppl went for in PSU reviews till he joined Corsair.
 

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Ya I was aiming for an 80+ bronze because it's cheaper, does efficiency really matter that much? Like after the energy market opened up electricity became cheaper right

If you are non believer of OC, 80+ bronze is more than sufficient for your build.

but once you would like to OC & pushing your hardware limit, it is advisable to go beyond 80+ bronze psu for system stability in long term.
 

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If you are non believer of OC, 80+ bronze is more than sufficient for your build.

but once you would like to OC & pushing your hardware limit, it is advisable to go beyond 80+ bronze psu for system stability in long term.

I don't OC, not planning to either. But long term stability and PC longevity is a point that I'd like to have
 

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One time invest in a 10 year warranty high capacity 750w psu and forget about it for next 2-3 builds. Can still use when you open to using high end gpu and cpu with oc to boot in the future
 

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One time invest in a 10 year warranty high capacity 750w psu and forget about it for next 2-3 builds. Can still use when you open to using high end gpu and cpu with oc to boot in the future

How long do PSUs last for, and what do the warranties cover? If they do last quite long then it might be worth to get a powerful PSU and keep it for a long time
 

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How long do PSUs last for, and what do the warranties cover? If they do last quite long then it might be worth to get a powerful PSU and keep it for a long time


PSU only serving 1 purposes to provide current to your system :) either it work or otherwise.

How long it last will depends on your power source and wattage stability at home.

High capacity PSU at level of 750w and above can help you last for at least 2 generation of upgrade assuming you upgrade at interval of 5 years to catch up with technology or change of usage pattern i.e. from gaming to work due to commitment.

PSU main consideration factors was due to GPU selection in short.
 

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How long do PSUs last for, and what do the warranties cover? If they do last quite long then it might be worth to get a powerful PSU and keep it for a long time
My last Cosair 550W lasted >2 builds? But my last board died, I'm not sure the board was faulty or the PSU, so to be safe, I just let it go. I have no means to test it.

Bought another new Cosair RM650 80+ rating, $150 only, to me since the olden times, I think PSU has gotten cheaper/same pricing with more power, so an investment is fine.

It has 10 years warranty anyway.

p/s: I don't need a high end GPU... at least my game does not, so 650W works for me. YMMV, maybe 1000W or so?
 

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PSU only serving 1 purposes to provide current to your system :) either it work or otherwise.

How long it last will depends on your power source and wattage stability at home.

High capacity PSU at level of 750w and above can help you last for at least 2 generation of upgrade assuming you upgrade at interval of 5 years to catch up with technology or change of usage pattern i.e. from gaming to work due to commitment.

PSU main consideration factors was due to GPU selection in short.

Tbh I don't know if I'll be upgrading in 5 years to catch up with tech. 5 years ago I upgraded my pc from stock, kept the CPU and upgraded the GPU to a 750ti. Then I upgraded the GPU again to a 970. This is my first time completely getting a new pc, and I'm not sure when I'll upgrade and to what, if I'll stick to old gen or the current gen.
If I won't upgrade in 5 years or so, it's better to get a cheaper PSU and replace it when I upgrade?
 

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How long do PSUs last for, and what do the warranties cover? If they do last quite long then it might be worth to get a powerful PSU and keep it for a long time

got gold at least lo, can last 5yrs and above ba. Warranty duration from 5 to 10yrs.
 

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Tbh I don't know if I'll be upgrading in 5 years to catch up with tech. 5 years ago I upgraded my pc from stock, kept the CPU and upgraded the GPU to a 750ti. Then I upgraded the GPU again to a 970. This is my first time completely getting a new pc, and I'm not sure when I'll upgrade and to what, if I'll stick to old gen or the current gen.
If I won't upgrade in 5 years or so, it's better to get a cheaper PSU and replace it when I upgrade?
Yes you are correct in this direction. you only consideration now is to get a balance psu that can support your current setup without any hiccups.

the PSU for GPU Zotac 3070 was minimum 650W as recommended by the official zotac website, if this is the GPU you are considering as recommend by some member in this thread.
 

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Yes you are correct in this direction. you only consideration now is to get a balance psu that can support your current setup without any hiccups.

the PSU for GPU Zotac 3070 was minimum 650W as recommended by the official zotac website, if this is the GPU you are considering as recommend by some member in this thread.

Yeah, I'm planning on getting a 650W PSU for the build, Ty

Also, does being a modular PSU matter? I don't see the difference between modular and non modular ones
 

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Yeah, I'm planning on getting a 650W PSU for the build, Ty

Also, does being a modular PSU matter? I don't see the difference between modular and non modular ones
for 650w it does not matter either semi modular or full modular as you still need those semi modular cable to plug into all your components.

for higher capacity like mine 860w, it will matter as the psu will have additional sata & pcie connector capacity.

I do not want the PSU to permanently fixed all the pcie connector without connect to any pc components, and it will be more tidy in this way especially if your casing does not have enough room for cable management.
 

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for 650w it does not matter either semi modular or full modular as you still need those semi modular cable to plug into all your components.

for higher capacity like mine 860w, it will matter as the psu will have additional sata & pcie connector capacity.

I do not want the PSU to permanently fixed all the pcie connector without connect to any pc components, and it will be more tidy in this way especially if your casing does not have enough room for cable management.

So modular and no modular is up to personal preference then?
 

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Full modular psu is so much more convenient. I went full modular and never looked back

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well i mean, for now I have to do some research into it, but the PSU I have at the moment isn't modular. I don't have a problem with it, since the main concern for me is my budget.
 

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Actually, just go ahead buy the recommended ones rather than keep studying the specs and numbers. It will never end and it really doesn't matter in reality, you won't feel any difference if you dun play latest games.

Just buy something within ur budget and enjoy :)

Tbh I don't know if I'll be upgrading in 5 years to catch up with tech. 5 years ago I upgraded my pc from stock, kept the CPU and upgraded the GPU to a 750ti. Then I upgraded the GPU again to a 970. This is my first time completely getting a new pc, and I'm not sure when I'll upgrade and to what, if I'll stick to old gen or the current gen.
If I won't upgrade in 5 years or so, it's better to get a cheaper PSU and replace it when I upgrade?
 
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for the PSU I'll take one of the recommended ones, yeah. For the other PC parts I'm still gonna have to do some research on them and see if they're compatible, what the prices are etc.
I'm gonna stream using this build, but I'm probably not gonna play the latest games (for the most part I' think I'm gonna stay one generation behind or so, play older games)
 
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