Nvidia RTX 3050 GPU

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for rx580 performance at the same msrp 5 years later? not to mention other gimped hardware like encoding/decoding support and very likely only x8 wiring? no thanks.
even worse, it's only pcie4.0x4. They literally just rip it out of a laptop and slap a fan on it. Beyond pathetic.
 

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They literally just rip it out of a laptop and slap a fan on it. Beyond pathetic.
well sounds like what nvidia did with the 3050. mlid speculated that nvidia were selling less mobile 3050s than they anticipated, thats why they launched it on desktop to move stocks.
 

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well sounds like what nvidia did with the 3050. mlid speculated that nvidia were selling less mobile 3050s than they anticipated, thats why they launched it on desktop to move stocks.
iirc he also thinks nvidia is gonna drop huge marketshare for low-mid tier mobile gpu to intel's Arc and amd Rembrandt. Horseshit prices aside, at least the 3050 wont be gimped by any retard pcie config.
 

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well sounds like what nvidia did with the 3050. mlid speculated that nvidia were selling less mobile 3050s than they anticipated, thats why they launched it on desktop to move stocks.
I think they got slapped pretty hard by reviewers. The performance killer is basically the 4GB VRAM in my opinion. If they want to move more stock, they just have to increase the VRAM. The RTX 3050 is expected to be a budget GPU which traditionally should sell more than those high end cards. However with very high prices, people looking for budget cards will not want to pay that much for a supposed budget card. To me if it costs over 500 bucks, it is way out of the budget territory. Nvidia's MSRP is not reflective of the actual value we see in the market, so chances of finding 1 at SGD 390 is quite slim since Nvidia themselves is not making reference cards to sell.
 

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Not worth for money, RTX 3060 or RX 6600 XT or get entry-level RX 6500 XT just $199 USD only
What do you think?
I strongly won't recommend buying the ultra gimped RX 6500 XT. It is perhaps the most severely cut back GPU I can recall to date. If you can find one below 300 bucks, may be you can consider. I am waiting to see what sorts of performance you can get out of this card.
 

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I think they got slapped pretty hard by reviewers. The performance killer is basically the 4GB VRAM in my opinion. If they want to move more stock, they just have to increase the VRAM. The RTX 3050 is expected to be a budget GPU which traditionally should sell more than those high end cards. However with very high prices, people looking for budget cards will not want to pay that much for a supposed budget card. To me if it costs over 500 bucks, it is way out of the budget territory. Nvidia's MSRP is not reflective of the actual value we see in the market, so chances of finding 1 at SGD 390 is quite slim since Nvidia themselves is not making reference cards to sell.

RTX 3050 8gb ram vs RX 6500 4gb, as per consumers choices.
8gb will be a consideration in the first place.
 

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RTX 3050 8gb ram vs RX 6500 4gb, as per consumers choices.
8gb will be a consideration in the first place.
In my opinion, assuming there is a 4GB version of the RTX 3050, I will still pay more for it. The RX 6500 sounds bad on paper, and will likely be bad. The cut from PCI-E x8 to x4 is the most absurd move. This is a budget card, and people with budget systems may still be using PCI-E 3.0. At x4, I don't know if there are any negative impact. They claimed that this is to deter miners, but I don't think miners will be using PCI-E 4.0 @ x16 to begin with for mining. Most mining boards have multiple PCI-E slots which also means they are not running at x16 nor x8. So who is this card for with the gimped features? Miners or gamers? May be both won't want to buy it. At the end of the day, this card is certain not worth more than 300 SGD for me. If the GTX 1650 is cheaper, perhaps it may be better to just get the GTX 1650 since at the end of the day, the card is limited by VRAM to play at high resolution and graphic settings for graphically intensive games.
 

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In my opinion, assuming there is a 4GB version of the RTX 3050, I will still pay more for it. The RX 6500 sounds bad on paper, and will likely be bad. The cut from PCI-E x8 to x4 is the most absurd move. This is a budget card, and people with budget systems may still be using PCI-E 3.0. At x4, I don't know if there are any negative impact. They claimed that this is to deter miners, but I don't think miners will be using PCI-E 4.0 @ x16 to begin with for mining. Most mining boards have multiple PCI-E slots which also means they are not running at x16 nor x8. So who is this card for with the gimped features? Miners or gamers? May be both won't want to buy it. At the end of the day, this card is certain not worth more than 300 SGD for me. If the GTX 1650 is cheaper, perhaps it may be better to just get the GTX 1650 since at the end of the day, the card is limited by VRAM to play at high resolution and graphic settings for graphically intensive games.

Anyway refer to Nvidia official website on paper is 8GB Ram.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-sg/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3050/
 

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In my opinion, assuming there is a 4GB version of the RTX 3050, I will still pay more for it. The RX 6500 sounds bad on paper, and will likely be bad. The cut from PCI-E x8 to x4 is the most absurd move. This is a budget card, and people with budget systems may still be using PCI-E 3.0. At x4, I don't know if there are any negative impact. They claimed that this is to deter miners, but I don't think miners will be using PCI-E 4.0 @ x16 to begin with for mining. Most mining boards have multiple PCI-E slots which also means they are not running at x16 nor x8. So who is this card for with the gimped features? Miners or gamers? May be both won't want to buy it. At the end of the day, this card is certain not worth more than 300 SGD for me. If the GTX 1650 is cheaper, perhaps it may be better to just get the GTX 1650 since at the end of the day, the card is limited by VRAM to play at high resolution and graphic settings for graphically intensive games.
most of these is true, the weakness for GTX series was they are unable to use DLSS (RTX card) which is still powerful than NIS for image scaling technology.
 

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Still cannot get it at msrp. Still remember getting my gtx1080 at less than sgd700. Feel heart pain during then. Now cannot even get the entry for new gen.
 

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most of these is true, the weakness for GTX series was they are unable to use DLSS (RTX card) which is still powerful than NIS for image scaling technology.
It can't run DLSS, but there are other upscaling technology that it can leverage on. I recall Nvidia released something similar to DLSS recently. Even FSR works with the Nvidia cards with no Tensor cores, which basically negates any reasons to get the RX 6500 since it also relies on FSR.
 

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The refreshed RTX 2060 is probably faster than the RTX 3050.
doubt it. even though its core config is the same as the 2060 super, its memory speeds are the same as the original 2060, so in real games it performs identically to the latter.
 

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doubt it. even though its core config is the same as the 2060 super, its memory speeds are the same as the original 2060, so in real games it performs identically to the latter.
Yep, saw a HWUB video where the RTX 2060 6GB was compared to the 12GB version, practically same results in all games.
 

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Yep, saw a HWUB video where the RTX 2060 6GB was compared to the 12GB version, practically same results in all games.
The RTX 2060 is still a fairly decent GPU. Only problem is the price. The cheapest I found it was around 939 or higher on Lazada. That cost more than some RX 6600 XT models that is quite a bit faster than it. The extra 4GB VRAM is nice to have, but as you rightfully pointed out, it makes little difference in real life since this card is mostly going to be running games at 1080p.
 

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The cheapest I found it was around 939 or higher on Lazada.
on taobao the cheapest i can find is about 775 for inno3d model with shipping. still way overpriced for what its worth though, miss the days when 30 series launched and shops were clearing out regular 2060s for like what 400?
The extra 4GB VRAM is nice to have
its just a mining card marketed to help supply (which it hasnt).
 
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