*Official* General Market Chit Chat Thread

[Sinkie]

I never see such an option for my broker leh...
Lets say you q your order in the bid or ask q, still can all or none?

Fak or fok

But fak or fok cannot queue one

 

[Sinkie]

Thats the risk of queueing
Next time just take market price la, dont try to save that one bid

Haha if doing trading hor, one bid is a lot leh

 

[Sinkie]

Cannot leh, already filled. I called my broker asking if they can make exception don't charge minimum for this trade, but cannot.

Can't do much one

Is like taking uber, u already booked le, the car come le, but then you realised your appt cancelled le, so u tell him go away.

1 min later u realised u got charged $6 for cancellation fee.

The only way to get this $6 back is to tell the uber driver to return u from his wallet

 

[Sinkie]

That's why I don't q to buy or sell. Don't like partially filled. Usually I will see the total buy is more than the amount I wanna sell, then I will one shot sell all to them. If counters with low volume must be careful when selling higher no than the no of buyers, might be left with some unfilled.

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For those buy and hold one, good to just take from market

But if u doing trading, one bid is alot of money le.. Total can save 2 bids if u queue to buy or sell

 

[Sinkie]

Aiyo... even broker cannot help
But how to prevent such thing from happening? Paging Sinkie!

Can, call your broker, give him your POSB account number, ask him do fund transfer the minimun as personal rebate from him

 

[Sinkie]

Scb would be very good here since it doesn't charge min comm.

Yeah, I always tio partial bcos of scb gnn

I also lan lan pay $25 lol

 

[Sinkie]

For example

Gg healthcare 0.505/0.510

Buy 20,000 shares at $0.505 vs buy 20,000 at $0.51

Difference is $100

Gg healthcare 0.53/0.535

Sell 20,000 shares at 0.53 vs sell 20,000 at 0.535

Difference is $100

Total "extra" profit will therefore be $200

But just to prevent partial fill, u go jiak seller and throw to buyer u say worth it or not??

And how many times will u hit partial fill only?

 

[Genosis]

For example

Gg healthcare 0.505/0.510

Buy 20,000 shares at $0.505 vs buy 20,000 at $0.51

Difference is $100

Gg healthcare 0.53/0.535

Sell 20,000 shares at 0.53 vs sell 20,000 at 0.535

Difference is $100

Total "extra" profit will therefore be $200

But just to prevent partial fill, u go jiak seller and throw to buyer u say worth it or not??

And how many times will u hit partial fill only?

Wa....trading notch simpur

 

[Tornesoul]

Question: if low cost indexing passive etf/mutual funds beats many active mutual funds over long periods of times, why do you personally still pick indiv stocks as a large part of your portfolio?

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[Sinkie]

Question: if low cost indexing passive etf/mutual funds beats many active mutual funds over long periods of times, why do you personally still pick indiv stocks as a large part of your portfolio?

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If Cpf give a compounding guranteed interest of 2% to 4% every year, so why we don't put all our money into Cpf?

 

[Weaboo]

Question: if low cost indexing passive etf/mutual funds beats many active mutual funds over long periods of times, why do you personally still pick indiv stocks as a large part of your portfolio?

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if everyone put their marnee into etfs, nothing will move leh

 

[Genosis]

Question: if low cost indexing passive etf/mutual funds beats many active mutual funds over long periods of times, why do you personally still pick indiv stocks as a large part of your portfolio?

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Lack of patience is one of the main reason. For low cost indexing passive etf to work, you need decades without taking out the money until u reach retirement. Let's say u start at 25 yrs old. U allocate a few hundred dollars per month. The first decade will not reap big gains as the compounding effect has not kicked in yet. The third decade onwards will be good as the compounding kicks in. But by then, you are way past ur prime at 60 yrs old.

Your children will be grateful though as long as you pass down the etf investments to them and they keep on compounding. Your grandchildren will absolutely love u. They dun even need to know anything about the stock market. Just regularly invest in etf like their grandfather who had built the foundation for them.

So for those people in their 30s and 40s who are putting in monthly investments into etfs, they are actually helping the next generation.

 

[thosai]

Question: if low cost indexing passive etf/mutual funds beats many active mutual funds over long periods of times, why do you personally still pick indiv stocks as a large part of your portfolio?

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I am not expert, but to make money by buying etf regularly and holding long-term, you still need the etf to move from low to high.

If the etf moves from high to low over many years, you will lose money when you cash out.

So you need to be very sure the etf will move to higher level many years later.

Just look at STI and its constituent stocks over the last few years. I am not so confident that it will go to 4000-5000 many years later. US S&P500 looks more promising vs STI.

 

[polyglob]

If Cpf give a compounding guranteed interest of 2% to 4% every year, so why we don't put all our money into Cpf?

Coz gahmen set contribution limit lor.

 

[lcornwisky]

i think if ur salary more than 5k there is a cap, there are also un-declared millionaires

 

[ValueInvestor]

Haha if doing trading hor, one bid is a lot leh

Ya if short term trading every bid counter, sometimes Q both the bid and ask earn the spread can make good $$$ as a market maker

But for long term investor who buy and hold for dividends, just do market order and dont worry any more haha

 

[Shiny Things]

Question: if low cost indexing passive etf/mutual funds beats many active mutual funds over long periods of times, why do you personally still pick indiv stocks as a large part of your portfolio?

Because it's fun. I keep a little "play-money account" around so that I can trade interest rates or commodities or FX or whatever, and have some fun without interfering with my big, boring, sensible ETF portfolio. It's fun to take a position and see it go in your favour!

 

[starfish.starfish]

Because it's fun. I keep a little "play-money account" around so that I can trade interest rates or commodities or FX or whatever, and have some fun without interfering with my big, boring, sensible ETF portfolio. It's fun to take a position and see it go in your favour!

True one reason for me is the fun.
However main reason is when I first started to buy stocks I weren't aware of etfs. So all my money were already parked into individual stocks. And i am still trying to move those into etfs. But yes any spare cash I have is slowly accumulating etf now.

 

[ValueInvestor]

GG to garmen

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/demand-for-singapore/2296276.html

The third issue of the Singapore Savings Bond saw scant interest from investors, who applied for only a small fraction of the maximum available.

The Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) said on Thursday (Nov 26) that for the December issue, total application within individual allotment limits amounted to S$40.99 million, well below the maximum allotment of S$1.2 billion.

The application amount was down sharply from S$257 million for the previous month's issue and S$413 million for the first tranche.

Singapore Savings Bonds offer individuals a safe, long-term, flexible savings option that pays higher interest over time.

For the December issue, the bond will pay investors an average interest rate of 2.44 per cent if it is held for the full 10 years.

In the second tranche, investors could earn an average interest rate of 2.78 per cent over a 10-year tenure, while the first issue would pay an average interest rate of 2.63 per cent.

Investors can choose to redeem Singapore Savings Bonds monthly at face value, unlike in the case of conventional bonds whose market price can fluctuate.

 

[ValueInvestor]

Market red red
Chrismas sale lai liao lol