[Official] iPhone 7 (Plus) Discussions

-nzy90

Supremacy Member
Joined
Apr 3, 2007
Messages
6,606
Reaction score
4
People shoot off their mouth without providing source to backup their claims.

When asked for proof of claims, they ask you go google.

When really googled, we all realized its all half truths at best and outdated truth. Why? Because they didn't expect anyone to really go google and they know that the info is there no matter how old.

Its like saying "Bill Clinton still has sex with his secretary" when it was in the past that he did that and doesn't do it now anymore (i hope)
Lol. Not so free to Google the info. I just know that I have read it somewhere before. Since you're so free shouldn't be a problem for you.

Sent from Samsung SM-N930F using GAGT
 
Last edited:

erwinrommel

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
27,852
Reaction score
3,135
It's all about quality control by the respective Brands. Just like a lot of products are manufactured in China, yet they are dramatically different in quality, it's all about QC! Samsung should fire the head of QC.

I still find it hard to believe that its simply an issue of lousy batteries.

All products are made in batches with specific lot numbers for easy referencing and tracing. If it is really a case of battery issue, they only need to issue recall for certain batches with specific p/n.

Secondly, there should always have safeguards and over-designs. If something fails, sensors and fuses should have been activated to completely stop it in case of catastrophic failure.

Lastly, there should be intensive accelerated testing according to an industrial standard. Such testing is used to weed out the infant mortality failures.

350px-Bathtub_curve.svg.png


Even during my previous job scope, when customer returned failed components, we had to pull data back and checked for commonality and traced them and checked whether other OEMs are facing the same failure. All these are extremely important for tracing, investigation and accountability.

I don't wish to speculate what happen to the exploding samsung note 7 batteries. But such things should never have happened when so many safeguards should have been put in place. And the fact that ALL note 7 have to be replaced is very weird. They actually only need to recall the affected battery batches...
 
Last edited:

zXioNGz

Supremacy Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2008
Messages
9,520
Reaction score
235
I still find it hard to believe that its simply an issue of lousy batteries.

All products are made in batches with specific lot numbers for easy referencing and tracing. If it is really a case of battery issue, they only need to issue recall for certain batches with specific p/n.

Secondly, there should always have safeguards and over-designs. If something fails, sensors and fuses should have been activated to completely stop it in case of catastrophic failure.

Lastly, there should be intensive accelerated testing according to an industrial standard. Such testing is used to weed out the infant mortality failures.

350px-Bathtub_curve.svg.png


Even during my previous job scope, when customer returned failed components, we had to pull data back and checked for commonality and traced them and checked whether other OEMs are facing the same failure. All these are extremely important for tracing, investigation and accountability.

I don't wish to speculate what happen to the exploding samsung note 7 batteries. But such things should never have happened when so many safeguards should have been put in place. And the fact that ALL note 7 have to be replaced is very weird.

Make sense, should just replace batteries for free or give out free ones just like what Steve Jobs did with free bumper case.

Definitely something fishy here for the mass recall of device itself
 

elimmel

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
May 25, 2006
Messages
17,077
Reaction score
5,936
While checking the battery issue they found something else? Better to do mass replacement before anymore negative news come out. All pure speculation of course. :D
 

erwinrommel

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
27,852
Reaction score
3,135
Samsung's one handed operation was first launched on the S5, about half a year before iPhone 6 came out. And yes, it works across all apps and systems seamlessly. But that being said, Android itself does not have such a feature.

Can.. just "root" lo. There are plenty of such mods around.

Tell that to average users who wanna use the phone out of the box immediately. Or tell iphone users to jailbreak their devices.
 

spidercyj

Master Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2014
Messages
3,040
Reaction score
513
Make sense, should just replace batteries for free or give out free ones just like what Steve Jobs did with free bumper case.

Definitely something fishy here for the mass recall of device itself

Oh ya ah battery only why recall whole device? Is note 7 inbuilt ?
 

erwinrommel

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
27,852
Reaction score
3,135
Make sense, should just replace batteries for free or give out free ones just like what Steve Jobs did with free bumper case.

Definitely something fishy here for the mass recall of device itself

The antenna gate is easy to resolve. Just give bumper. Won't cause explosion and isn't life threatening. :s13:

While checking the battery issue they found something else? Better to do mass replacement before anymore negative news come out. All pure speculation of course. :D

Like I mentioned, the components listed in the BOM should be easily traceable, with batch and lot numbers traceable. One can even trace to the original supplier, or even trace which production machine, what date/time it was run even in their own production line. This is how they can determine what lots were run within the affected time frame, and then do a "pull-back" and trace every single item. The testing unit should also be checked as to whether the batches were tested, and why it didn't catch the problem. Have they really found out the root cause of the problem?

If all devices were to be returned, my ex-company would already be closed down and sued. :s13:
 
Last edited:

erwinrommel

High Supremacy Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
27,852
Reaction score
3,135
Lol. Not so free to Google the info. I just know that I have read it somewhere before. Since you're so free shouldn't be a problem for you.

Think next time we come out and cycle and i explain more to you about such issues. :s13:

Its more complicated than debating whether there should be gear indicators on your bicycle.
 

-nzy90

Supremacy Member
Joined
Apr 3, 2007
Messages
6,606
Reaction score
4
The antenna gate is easy to resolve. Just give bumper. Won't cause explosion and isn't life threatening. :s13:



Like I mentioned, the components listed in the BOM should be easily traceable, with batch and lot numbers traceable. One can even trace to the original supplier, or even trace which production machine, what date/time it was run even in their own production line. This is how they can determine what lots were run within the affected time frame, and then do a "pull-back" and trace every single item. The testing unit should also be checked as to whether the batches were tested, and why it didn't catch the problem. Have they really found out the root cause of the problem?

If all devices were to be returned, my ex-company would already be closed down and sued. :s13:
Maybe its easier to do full recall? Only HK and Australia has the option to key in IMEI and check if your phone is affected by the recall.

Sent from Samsung SM-N930F using GAGT
 

Godbleseu

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 11, 2010
Messages
726
Reaction score
279
We seems to have Samsung hardcore supporters here stirring ****.

All of us know Samsung are in deep **** with major airlines implementing measures on NOte 7 which is factual.

Good Luck lol....
 

tjrsasea

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2016
Messages
1,083
Reaction score
3
We seems to have Samsung hardcore supporters here stirring ****.

All of us know Samsung are in deep **** with major airlines implementing measures on NOte 7 which is factual.

Good Luck lol....

At least Samsung is responsible, is recalling their phones and will give you a brand new set that will not explode. It will be allowed on airplanes sooner or later..

Unlike... ahem... Apple (steve jobs) who said consumers are holding their iPhones (iPhone 4) wrong when in fact there is a hardware issue that causes reception problems..
 

shawniiex

Arch-Supremacy Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2011
Messages
10,589
Reaction score
156
Guize.

Can we all LEGIT CHILL WITH THE SMACK TALK?
To each their own.
I'm a nexus user since Galaxy Nexus.
But I'm getting the iPhone 7 to finally give it a try.
So each brand clearly has their pros and cons.
 

BraveCloudy

Banned
Joined
Mar 12, 2016
Messages
2,991
Reaction score
0
Some people doesn't like iPhone 7 cause no speaker jack.
to me it doesn't affect cause I use Bluetooth earpiece.
 

tjrsasea

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2016
Messages
1,083
Reaction score
3
Guize.

Can we all LEGIT CHILL WITH THE SMACK TALK?
To each their own.
I'm a nexus user since Galaxy Nexus.
But I'm getting the iPhone 7 to finally give it a try.
So each brand clearly has their pros and cons.

Erm.. just to point out. You trying out the iPhone 7 after being a nexus user for a very long time doesn't show that each brand has their pros and cons. I get what you mean but your phrasing is wrong.

Yes. Each brand has its own pros and cons but the Android ecosystem with Samsung as its biggest player have more pros than cons sry to say. But I must admit, Apple is very good with its software optimisation and its marketing skills. The iPhones are very optimised for everyday usage such that it is able to perform even with lower specs. They can also make people believe that the features they "invented" is "the most revolutionary" even if the it is already persent in the Android ecosystem a few years back. You cant deny that!
 

PetPet

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
May 24, 2004
Messages
95,217
Reaction score
319
Thank you for your intriguing views. This thread is intended for Apple's iPhone 7 Smartphone discussions.

For those who have had concerns, if you're interested in a returning a Samsung device, please consider posting in the right channel such as the Samsung User Group

Otherwise, if you're part of the affected batch of note 7 users you may also head to http://www.samsung.com/sg/note7exchange/ directly for an exchange, before it's too late.

With all said and done, I hope the above information is sufficient.
Please stick to the topic or infractions would be dished.

Cheers.
 
Last edited:
Important Forum Advisory Note
This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts. Moderators are not employees or representatives of HWZ Forums. Forum members and moderators are responsible for their own posts. Please refer to our Community Guidelines and Standards and Terms and Conditions for more information.
Top