[Official] Playstation 5

[tarui04]

sony store just replied that it will be delivered to me but the email is..riddled with grammatical mistakes

 

[ladiesman217]

it's not just here.

Demand For PS5 In Japan Means High Gray Market Prices


People also flipping them elsewhere.

so jus hold it off if you have got no reason to get one right now. no rush.

Best, hope theres more shortage in time to come.
Already confirmed a set for launch day and i wouldn't mind flipping it if i can flip it higher than a prata.

 

[xtwis7]

Just load times so far. Actual FPS performance is very close.

Thermals wise I think Xbox is edging ahead too?

Based on?

10char

 

[SiaoAngMoh]

Just load times so far. Actual FPS performance is very close.

Thermals wise I think Xbox is edging ahead too?

Those are BC load times, where the Xbox One is already faster than the PS4. The PS5 actually improves the load times more than the Series X, but the One had such a lead, the PS5 didn't catch the Series X.

However, on next gen games ... loading PS5 is much faster than XSX.

Thermals? Nah, the PS5 runs cool and quiet.

But those are by the by. The reason you buy a new console is to play new games. Xbox has none. Worst launch ever from Microsoft in my opinion.

And I think the dualsense will be a literal game changer.

 

[Elysium87]

Those are BC load times, where the Xbox One is already faster than the PS4. The PS5 actually improves the load times more than the Series X, but the One had such a lead, the PS5 didn't catch the Series X.

However, on next gen games ... loading PS5 is much faster than XSX.

Thermals? Nah, the PS5 runs cool and quiet.

But those are by the by. The reason you buy a new console is to play new games. Xbox has none. Worst launch ever from Microsoft in my opinion.

And I think the dualsense will be a literal game changer.

yea in terms of exclusive xbox has none, but actually if you dont have a pc, there are lots of games to play on xbox actually.

look at their game pass and their upcoming with ea play on the game pass, and with their purchase of game companies, they may make it into xbox/pc exclusive instead.

so ps has to buck up in case xbox catching up sooner or later like how amd has overtaken intel in terms of chips i feel.

 

[MakiMaki]

yea in terms of exclusive xbox has none, but actually if you dont have a pc, there are lots of games to play on xbox actually.

look at their game pass and their upcoming with ea play on the game pass, and with their purchase of game companies, they may make it into xbox/pc exclusive instead.

so ps has to buck up in case xbox catching up sooner or later like how amd has overtaken intel in terms of chips i feel.

Correct that if you don’t already have a pc.... makes it more compelling to get an Xbox due to gamepass, which is why Xbox series x sales are equally good in other parts of the world.

However, with regards to SG, most console gamers will have a pc as well, making Xbox kinda redundant for us. I fell into the trap last gen when I got an Xbox one x to play those non ps4 exclusives, but most “Xbox exclusives” are also available on pc...not gonna get an Xbox this gen. I’d rather save the $700 to finance my next pc..

 

[jedi5diah]

in terms of specs and numbers. yes. or maybe.

but don't forget about the price.

plus RDNA2 is available only recently(?) so not really yesteryear technology.

I did say next gen spec

So hopefully naughty dog n Santa Monica level of dev will deliver us true next gen console experience

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[jedi5diah]

That's always has been the case. Nothing new there.

PC Parts refreshes yearly now. Consoles every 4-6 years.

The difference this time is the specs are really near current pc specs

Just that the true next gen console games are not out until 2021 hopefully GOW will deliver again

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[d5dude]

if you have got 1x hr to spare~

Going to run at 4k/30, without RT. lol...

 

[d5dude]

Correct that if you don’t already have a pc.... makes it more compelling to get an Xbox due to gamepass, which is why Xbox series x sales are equally good in other parts of the world.

However, with regards to SG, most console gamers will have a pc as well, making Xbox kinda redundant for us. I fell into the trap last gen when I got an Xbox one x to play those non ps4 exclusives, but most “Xbox exclusives” are also available on pc...not gonna get an Xbox this gen. I’d rather save the $700 to finance my next pc..

Xbox only good if you got no PC.

 

[rockyan]

Anyone grab the PS5 this morning?Thought i got notification from amazon.

 

[AikiBoy]

if you have got 1x hr to spare~

i dont see big different.

 

[LiLAsN]

Going to run at 4k/30, without RT. lol...

If it ever had RT, it will be like watching a power point slide. No longer is 'Cinematic' 24fps the lowest standard.

Just joking around. Anyway, Sony is really starting to be the overconfident and negligent again like back during the PS3 days.

Look at the pricing. Nothing about its hardware is better than the Xbox Series X. Yet, they charge it at a higher price. Similar pattern to the PS3 launch.

No value for money consumer friendly features like finally, the PS5 has a UHD disc drive. But it can't output the video in Dolby Vision when their TVs obviously can play in Dolby Vision? Clearly another way to cut cost while still charging at a higher price.

Then, they boast about quicker load times with their proprietary built-in SSD. Yet, XSX can actually make use of their quicker load times in even their older games. Seriously SCE?

Investing in their own technology instead of just licensing from Dolby or DTS:X in their object based sound technology is such a waste.
At least those 2 licenses comes with both Home Theatre setting as well as headphone setting instead of just having your development focused on headphones. I would rather have Dolby Atmos or DTS:X so that I can hear enemies from above as more multiplayer games have verticality in them. So knowing if the enemy is above you will give a good gauge of who's around you as opposed to the standard 7.1 2-dimensional layout of knowing that there's an enemy in front of you in COD for example but not knowing if they are right in front of you or above or below you.

When it comes to 1440p monitor support, you support headphones which many monitor users obviously use. But no 1440p support? Then they must fork out for the more expensive 4K monitors instead? Or worst, stick to a 1080p output? Might as well just play on the PS4. Oh man... SCE...

I'm even more irritated by the lack of VRR support. It would have helped lower the game's latency a bit instead of using V-Sync.
And if they continue sticking to V-Sync, then games need to be optimized manually in the future by game devs. I doubt they'd do that. Might as well start supporting VRR now. So game devs can have an unlocked FPS option which, over the Playstation generation, will get higher FPS without the game being locked to 30 or 60fps because the game devs were thinking of only the PS5 and not PS6 and beyond in the future.
VRR could have alleviated all that since there's no tearing. So an unlocked FPS is not a problem. Players with older displays can still get a locked 60fps since their display caps out at 60Hz too for now until they get their new display that natively supports HDMI Forum VRR.
Wasted opportunity and foresight by SCE here.

Other than that, I'll stick to using the PS5 only for exclusives seeing how underperforming the rest of its feature sets are for other games.
I really hope consumers will not buy the PS5 consoles to make sure SCE learns their lessons again. Be it for their higher price or the lack of features readily available with HDMI 2.1. It looks like SCE gets really cocky any chance they get and in the end, it is we consumers that lose out.
Here, I thought they'd learn that the success of the PS4 stems from the consumer focused and friendly aspect of it. But over the PS4 Pro and now the PS5 generations, looks like they are again, going back to their old ways.

Sorry for the ramble. Am having a slight buyer's remorse for pre-ordering one. If not for its exclusives... All I can say is, the PS5 is not worth buying especially on day 1 in the state that it is in. Not to mention the lack of storage expansion right from the get-go with the PS5 exclusive/optimized games. Especially with its higher price tag. If the sales are not good, then consumers can get the PS5 at a lower price after they put it on sale due to the lack of consumer interest in it. And only at that sale price might the PS5 finally be properly priced for what it offers.

And no, I am not getting an Xbox. Due to them committing to having their games be available on the PC, the PC is where it is at. PC has game sales very quickly and games like Battlefield can drop to bargain bin prices (like SG$12 on the EA store) in just 1 year vs the console online market store prices. And I can get Xbox games like the Halo Masterchief Collection on Steam. So no reason to get an Xbox at all just like the entire Xbox One generation including the Xbox One X where about the only exclusive games that came out were so poorly rated and looks like a PS2 era game like Crackdown 3. The X1X is the most powerful console but the most useless console at the same time especially with the lack of exclusive games to take full advantage of it. And now, the X1X is quickly killed off by the next gen XSX and the Series S as well. So not much reason to bother about it. The Game Pass aspect is a good move. But I prefer to own my game and build my archive of games over time.


Not to mention, the sometimes free upgrades to older games on PC without the need to repurchase the same old games again. Look at Demon's Souls. A remake being charged at around SG$97! What?!
I have been a console gamer since I was very young. I only got to PC gaming for less than 4 years.
Was thinking of making use of its UHD media player aspect to use it for watching movies when I'm not playing the PS5 exclusives. But even that is not doable.
These unnecessary increased prices for both the console and the games on the console to reach $100 per game, I don't find any joy in purchasing my PS5 now.
In more online games, I can still play with my PS friends too.
Sometimes, I'm not sure why I even bother.

Sorry for the rant! I don't know if anyone else feels this way too about where console gaming is going now with next gen.

 

[alfseeto]

If it ever had RT, it will be like watching a power point slide. No longer is 'Cinematic' 24fps the lowest standard.

Sorry for the rant! I don't know if anyone else feels this way too about where console gaming is going now with next gen.

Hi, if you’re having buyers remorse I’m happy to buy the PS5 off you.
I didn’t manage to get into the first 2 rounds of preorders.

 

[Jurchen King]

Sorry for the rant! I don't know if anyone else feels this way too about where console gaming is going now with next gen.

OK, enjoy your PC gaming then. But I've this to say based on experience. Most of the time, console games have less issues on game release compared to PC. Yes, PC gaming is superior in terms of graphical resolution and frame rates, but users have to tweak settings to find the performance-stability balance. New PC games upon release, especially AAA titles, tend to suffer more game crashing and low FPS issues related to driver & software issues. It also takes a longer time for the developer to resolve these issues due to a variety of different user hardware configurations.

For consoles, it's just simple insert disc (or download) and play. Most of the time, there're no issues. Any issues will most likely affect all users of the same platform. Because the hardware is standardized and both CPU & GPU are integrated together in a single SOC, it's much easier and faster for the developer to patch.

Don't believe me? For example, google the number of issues & complaints related to Watch Dog: Legions on the PC platform compared to the console versions.

The trade-off for console users is resolution and frame rates, and higher game prices. So yes, the PC master race can laugh at console users for enduring 30fps gameplay at worst, 60fps as a blessing, and 120fps as a godsend. But I'll take that in return for more consistent, stable gameplay on large screen TV with all keys mapped to a single controller than having to deal with intermittent crashes, poor performance because of new unavoidabe Windows updates or GPU drivers, or having to juggle mapping so many gameplay control functions to multiple keys on the keyboard.

BTW, most console gamers also own a gaming PC.

 

[Tukatuz]

It cost a bomb to have the state of the art PC! Especially those graphic cards.

For people like me who does not have the luxury of having a room for PC + monitor, console is the best and I prefer to play games on TV than on monitor.

Why i choose PS is due to the games. Give me a top of the line PC or console but no nice game also pointless. As for now, you still can play PS4 games on PS5...give it some time and more games for PS5 will be release . Like Horizon, GOW..etc etc

 

[jedi5diah]

Anyway gamepass ultimate covers pc and they have differences with RTS games in it. It is really a gaming hub.

For me I don't ever go back playing old games and further more both consoles needed subscription. Paying double for it with a lot more games is pretty okay for me but it's like a steal for students or a family eco system. Very worth it.

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[TrueBeliever_jh]

anyways i also feel the resolution talk is more of a PCMR talk. where everything is jus number and specs.

on console, you will probably know when the game is going beyond 1080P. but after that, it's diminishing returns as the players is not sitting closed to the TV (don't do that!) to notice the pixel density.

would be interesting to see whether Sony and Microsoft are collecting statistics on player choice whether they prefer performance or quality. and also whether with RT or without.

 

[xtwis7]

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Let’s see how do majority of day 1 gamers find the console. I’m buying next year or even 2022 anyway so no rush for me. The only game I’m excited for is HZD’s forbidden which comes late next year anyway.

 

[MilgaussSC]

Hmm I put my name on the waiting list with playe but they told me maybe December batch. But most likely next year. Interesting to see how the launch unfolds. PS4 I preordered from game theme and I remember there being 2 lines. 1 for pre order and 1 for walk in purchase