[Official] Playstation 5

[TrueBeliever_jh]

S series got weaker performance right and no rom drive right ? is their HDD capacity higher

CPU is almost the same

RAM is the interesting part~

 

[xtwis7]

Microsoft is out to kill Sony this time. If a ‘lite’ next gen console is the same price as the current console, it’s crazy.

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

Microsoft is out to kill Sony this time. If a ‘lite’ next gen console is the same price as the current console, it’s crazy.

that lite is the same price as Nintendo Switch @299 USD~

plus it can do 1440p120 and upscale games to 4K~ (check video below at 1:22 mark)

yup. 4K gaming as well (not sure to what extend)

 

[xtwis7]

That’s why. I don’t know how is Sony going to react to this but knowing that quantities are limited, are they going for higher revenue based on higher cost for each console?

that lite is the same price as Nintendo Switch @299 USD~

plus it can do 1440p120 and upscale games to 4K~ (check video below at 1:22 mark)

yup. 4K gaming as well (not sure to what extend)

 

[Deathshadow]

S series got weaker performance right and no rom drive right ? is their HDD capacity higher

That's right. While Series S is an affordable console aimed more towards the casual market, there's no denying it is underpowered when compared to PS5 & Series X. Hence the low price.

- SSD Storage is only 512 GB, which is definitely not enough for an all-digital console (1TB Expansion Card is sold separately for those who want to expand storage, but it won't be cheap. Add up the total cost, Series S is worse value than Series X overall).

- No disc drive (Eliminating used games market, reselling or trading in)

- No backwards compatibility with any previous Xbox game disc.

- Only 4 Teraflops.

- Slow RAM speed.

- Target 1440p but that doesn't mean all games will run at that resolution. In a few years time, this machine will struggle to keep up. Towards the middle & end of the gen, there will be more graphically demanding games that will not run at native 4K on PS5/Series X. Some titles might run at 1800p or 1440p on both of them. This means Series S will run those titles at 1080p or possibly 900p.

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

as for Series S, i can tell you guys next generation consoles will not be running games @4K native. they will be employing tricks to upscale 1080P to 4K.

Nvidia's DLSS has been doing it well. We will have to see what AMD (and Sony) can offer.

 

[Deathshadow]

For next gen, hopefully 'Performance Mode' becomes a standard additional option in every game. So players can between Resolution or Performance.

Resolution: Native 4K at 30fps.

Performance:

1800p/1440p at 60fps.
1080p at 120fps for multiplayer games.

Demon's Souls, Spider-Man: Miles Morales & Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart have all been confirmed to have optional 60fps Performance Mode (Lower rendering resolution & ray-tracing is disabled to prioritize performance)

 

[Unic0rn]

for many years the PC had been able to run 1440p at 120fps already

 

[BangBusDriver]

Any bros here can PM me where I can pre-order for PS5 now and place deposit?

 

[Deathshadow]

New info on Kena: Bridge of Spirits (PS4/PS5/PC)

https://www.gameinformer.com/feature/2020/09/08/what-does-the-ps5-bring-to-kena-bridge-of-spirits

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/kena_bridge_of_spirits_takes_two_seconds_to_boot_on_ps5

“In practice, we watched as Kena: Bridge of Spirits was launched from the PS5 system menu. It took about two seconds. That’s not resuming a suspended game, but launching the game fresh."

Biggest takeaway from the article is the I/O Throughput & SSD speed of PS5. Much faster than Xbox Velocity Architecture (More than twice as fast). Only takes 2 seconds to boot the game.

 

[d5dude]

Think Microsoft won this gen. Most people are still on 1080p. So they are gonna sell a lot of series s.

Sony only targeted 4K and no way they can match that 299 price point. We are lucky if one of them is closer to 400 usd.

Then again, if ps5 actually pushed 4K tv sales, that will be a very different story.


But very interesting is that series s ended up as the highlight for them more than series x.

This is just marketing, series s only got 4 TFLOPs, its very hard to hit 1080/120 for most modern titles, the GPU will bottleneck the machine very hard.

Dun see the point in matching a powerful CPU with a cheap GPU.

 

[d5dude]

that lite is the same price as Nintendo Switch @299 USD~

plus it can do 1440p120 and upscale games to 4K~ (check video below at 1:22 mark)

yup. 4K gaming as well (not sure to what extend)

Switch will continue to sell well if nintendo continues to push out good exclusive titles.

No way 4tflop machine can do 1440p/120 unless its a very old and undemanding game.

 

[Unic0rn]

This is just marketing, series s only got 4 TFLOPs, its very hard to hit 1080/120 for most modern titles, the GPU will bottleneck the machine very hard.

Dun see the point in matching a powerful CPU with a cheap GPU.

why do they decide not to pair a better and more capable GPU with the CPU for the series s?

 

[d5dude]

why do they decide not to pair a better and more capable GPU with the CPU for the series s?

To lower cost.

 

[Deathshadow]

why do they decide not to pair a better and more capable GPU with the CPU for the series s?

They're aiming for USD $299 price point. Any improvement in GPU, SSD Storage etc. Will drive up & increase the overall cost.

Microsoft strategy for this gen is to have the cheapest next gen console on the market, as well as the most powerful. Hence the 2 consoles with different specs.

This is due to the Xbox One debacle in 2013 where it's less powerful but more expensive than PS4. Microsoft definitely doesn't want that narrative to happen again.

 

[Illusionist_85]

just realize can express interest

https://store.sony.com.sg/blogs/promotions/playstation5-latest-updates

 

[ilovefish]

Sony really making life hard for buyers..

Keep waiting and waiting..

 

[Unic0rn]

They're aiming for USD $299 price point. Any improvement in GPU, SSD Storage etc. Will drive up & increase the overall cost.

Microsoft strategy for this gen is to have the cheapest next gen console on the market, as well as the most powerful. Hence the 2 consoles with different specs.

This is due to the Xbox One debacle in 2013 where it's less powerful but more expensive than PS4. Microsoft definitely doesn't want that narrative to happen again.

why not put in a 2070 super and maintain the price point and earn back from games sales? consoles are traditionally sold at a loss isn’t it so?

 

[Adam80]

just realize can express interest

https://store.sony.com.sg/blogs/promotions/playstation5-latest-updates

It's the same link if u scan the qr code at Sony shop.

 

[dagobah]

Think Microsoft won this gen. Most people are still on 1080p. So they are gonna sell a lot of series s.

Sony only targeted 4K and no way they can match that 299 price point. We are lucky if one of them is closer to 400 usd.

Then again, if ps5 actually pushed 4K tv sales, that will be a very different story.


But very interesting is that series s ended up as the highlight for them more than series x.

That's right. While Series S is an affordable console aimed more towards the casual market, there's no denying it is underpowered when compared to PS5 & Series X. Hence the low price.

- SSD Storage is only 512 GB, which is definitely not enough for an all-digital console (1TB Expansion Card is sold separately for those who want to expand storage, but it won't be cheap. Add up the total cost, Series S is worse value than Series X overall).

- No disc drive (Eliminating used games market, reselling or trading in)

- No backwards compatibility with any previous Xbox game disc.

- Only 4 Teraflops.

- Slow RAM speed.

- Target 1440p but that doesn't mean all games will run at that resolution. In a few years time, this machine will struggle to keep up. Towards the middle & end of the gen, there will be more graphically demanding games that will not run at native 4K on PS5/Series X. Some titles might run at 1800p or 1440p on both of them. This means Series S will run those titles at 1080p or possibly 900p.

It will depends on how you define won?

To quote a twitter user...
"Keep in mind while Xbox Series S is $299, the SSD is only 512GB so unless you like deleting & reinstalling games, you’ll want to expand.

Seagate confirmed a 1TB card being made but I can’t imagine this card being less than $150.
That makes it pretty close to a $500 1TB Series X"
-https://twitter.com/WeAreJoel/status/1303352572242255872

You are essentially getting HALF the power for almost the same series X price.

The series S has a very attractive price point and will probably gonna sell well with the mainstream casuals.

I can't help but feel it's like a mid-gen upgrade. In two years time, game developers might find it a trouble to support
if they really want to push next gen capabilities.

It will be interesting to see how this play out in the console world.
Will it start an era of half-ass "next-gen" consoles, just to keep the price low and competitive?