[Official] Playstation 5

[Tukatuz]

The hell is going on with this thread now lol.

Don’t like don’t buy. Nothing is going to be perfect.

 

[LiLAsN]

I do agree with all of your points.

Though to say that nothing about the hardware is better is not true. Sony has been heavily emphasizing on their SSD and its supposedly almost double the speed of the xbox series X. Its still early days and quite puzzling that the xbox series X is beating the PS5 in most back compatible titles. I think this can only be seen through Sonys own first party titles. I assume that third parties have to design their game to the lowest common denominator among the consoles (excluding switch) so multi plat games would probably load around the same speed.

For variable refresh rate and 1440p support, I think that will come. As mentioned from sony recently here: https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/11/21559903/sony-playstation-5-no-browser-1440p-support-vr
Microsoft heavily pushed for 1440p since they were already developing for games on PC when the xbox one was being outsold by ps4 almost 3:1. Selling their games on PC probably made them go "lets add 1440p support to our console since our games are gonna be developed for 1440p on PC anyways".

Ps5 already has 4 games if im not wrong. 2 games with extremely high production value and with Sonys portfolio of games and studios, more will come.

Though with how microsoft has been buying studious, the counterpunch from microsoft will be strong and only then Sony is in trouble if they do not work on their "under the hood technologies"

But you are right though, they do seem slightly complacent with how the marketing and pr leading up to the PS5 launch imo.

Thank you. Finally! A very thoughtful reply and someone who understands the actual point of my post.

Pity those fanboys that liked the comment of the EDMW sh**posters that go around making half-wit comments and actually fell for those fake comments. (Just look at their posts. Come into different threads, stir sh** and move on. No insightful opinions given) Those fake comments did not even look at the actual topic that I was discussing.
It's just that, if you want to complain, give an alternative solution. Thus why I went to say PC might be a viable platform if we want to show Sony that we dislike their not so consumer-friendly decision this time round. If you want, you can stick to the PS4 too. That's the point. Not asking to go join PC specifically.
But that comment stuck and it gives those sh** posters a catalyst to cause unnecessary fanboy response in this thread. Truly sad. Those few EDMW sh** posters (if you bothered to check) who wants to stir sh** here are not going to own a PS5 btw. So congrats on the fanboys that fell for their words.

That point on Sony over-emphasizing their super fast internal storage yet it can't automatically apply to older games like how the XSX could. And not to mention the load time comparison videos. The idea to use that fast SSD for instantaneous switching between games is a brilliant idea. Especially for us adults who have lesser and lesser time. Yet Sony didn't even bother to have such a feature with their 2x faster storage to the X1X.

I was really rooting for Sony to come out with a win here. But their lack of information on the features made us have no choice but to look at the Xbox side of things to get an idea of how these fast SSDs will be implemented along with the VRR features which have been back ported to HDMI 2.0 too. I think this is what ultimately resulted in the disappointment.
Hopefully more of the HDMI 2.1 features will be implemented down the pipeline.

Nevertheless, I fully agree. The thing that Sony gets right is you get a ton of exclusive games down the pipeline for the entire console generation. That's why the Playstation is worthy of owning. No doubt about that. 5 more days to hold out for the Spiderman game. Can't wait!

 

[wadsad]

wtf i come in here look for preorder stuff end up see wot.

still didnt manage to get a set. damn sian.

 

[LiLAsN]

wtf i come in here look for preorder stuff end up see wot.

still didnt manage to get a set. damn sian.

Based on this, no walk-in sets as well. But chances are, you might be able to get from TOG. They do not do waiting lists. Meaning, even if there are spare PS5s, they won't be giving it to the people in their waiting list. So if there's a chance, it will be with TOG.
But as they have mentioned here, if there's any, they will announce it in their Facebook. So take note.
https://www.facebook.com/toyorgame.com.sg/posts/2915241225364216


https://www.facebook.com/teamplaye/posts/3331965830235371

 

[wadsad]

but actually i get ps5 i will still be playing ps4 games.

my main aim is to offload my ps4 pro at the best available price while not taking away my game time.

the price hike on ps5 games really damn sian. as if the ps4 games' price is not high enough.

 

[MilgaussSC]

Based on this, no walk-in sets as well. But chances are, you might be able to get from TOG. They do not do waiting lists. Meaning, even if there are spare PS5s, they won't be giving it to the people in their waiting list. So if there's a chance, it will be with TOG.
But as they have mentioned here, if there's any, they will announce it in their Facebook. So take note.
https://www.facebook.com/toyorgame.com.sg/posts/2915241225364216


https://www.facebook.com/teamplaye/posts/3331965830235371

I’m trying to find one at launch too. I’ll have to keep up to date with all the Facebook accounts of sg retailers haha

 

[kelvinsin]

but actually i get ps5 i will still be playing ps4 games.

my main aim is to offload my ps4 pro at the best available price while not taking away my game time.

the price hike on ps5 games really damn sian. as if the ps4 games' price is not high enough.

Same as me, lesson learnt when want to sell my ps3 3yrs after ps4 released. Even plus 10 games but just been quoted $130. I rather keep it in personal musuem.

 

[Kwein]

I thought there’s a xbox thread for Fanboys?

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[xtwis7]

There seems to be several major bugs/glitches that can dampen one’s PS5 experience from the box

 

[d5dude]

I do agree with all of your points. There are many things that the Xbox Series X seem to do better compared to the PS5.

Though to say that nothing about the hardware is better is not true. Sony has been heavily emphasizing on their SSD and its supposedly almost double the speed of the xbox series X (updrading storage is also not proprietary compared to xbox series X). Its still early days and quite puzzling that the xbox series X is beating the PS5 in most back compatible titles. I think the speed of the PS5s SSSD will only be seen through Sonys own first party titles. I assume that third parties have to design their game to the lowest common denominator among the consoles (excluding switch) so multi plat games would probably load around the same speed.

For backwards compatibility, microsoft has been doing this since 2014 if im not wrong. They have mastered it and spent the last 5 years perfecting backwards comaptibility. They probably decided to focus on many things under the hood and services during the years when PS4 was dominating and we are seeing all of it come to fruition now. It would be amazing if PS5 has seamless backwards compatibility like XBOX through all of its generations but I think we will have to wait for that.

Though i do not like the new head of playstation Jim Ryan, he has said some really stupid things in the past such as backwards compatibilty being useless :https://www.vg247.com/2017/06/05/why-would-anybody-play-this-says-sonys-jim-ryan-about-backwards-compatibility/

Also the xbox backwards compatilty is not as great as what everyone makes it out to be. Only select games from 360 and original xbox are playable (many games though) but not all. Till now I still cant play my top spin 4 lol.

For us users who value physical media, the PS5 is expensive ($499 USD/$729 SGD, when the xbox is also $599 USD but $699 SGD), but for people who value digital, the Ps5 is super good value. Just $599. Cheaper than the PS4 when it launched.

For variable refresh rate and 1440p support, I think that will come. As mentioned from sony recently here: https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/11/21559903/sony-playstation-5-no-browser-1440p-support-vr
Microsoft heavily pushed for 1440p since they were already developing for games on PC when the xbox one was being outsold by ps4 almost 3:1. Selling their games on PC probably made them go "lets add 1440p support to our console since our games are gonna be developed for 1440p on PC anyways".

So Microsoft actually has alot of their under the hood technologies that they've been working on for many years finally come to fruition. But its still at the cost of games. Xbox Series X launched with 0 first party exclusives and I cant even count with 1 hand what exclusives they had in the xbox one era that were top tier games (though to each their own, tastes in games is subjective).

Ps5 already has 4 games if im not wrong. 2 games with extremely high production value and with Sonys portfolio of games and studios, more will come.

Though with how microsoft has been buying studious, the counterpunch from microsoft will be strong and only then Sony is in trouble if they do not work on their "under the hood technologies"

But you are right though, they do seem slightly complacent with how the marketing and pr leading up to the PS5 launch imo.

(Btw if you have buyers remorse for buying the PS5 I'd love to take the pre-order off you HAHAHAH)

Demon's souls was developed from the ground up for PS5 only, but it only runs at 4k/30 without RT. SSD isn't going to change the fact that its still only a 10 Tflop machine, and 10 Tflops isn't much these days. Anyway if you watched the DF interview with the devs you will know DS already takes full advantage of the SSD.

Like PS4 era I won't be playing multi platform titles on PS5 for sure, games like Sekiro was literally unplayable on the PS4.

 

[SiaoAngMoh]

Demon's souls was developed from the ground up for PS5 only, but it only runs at 4k/30 without RT. SSD isn't going to change the fact that its still only a 10 Tflop machine, and 10 Tflops isn't much these days. Anyway if you watched the DF interview with the devs you will know DS already takes full advantage of the SSD.

Like PS4 era I won't be playing multi platform titles on PS5 for sure, games like Sekiro was literally unplayable on the PS4.

DS is also a launch title. Look at the launch titles from the PS4, and compare to the games at the end of the generation. Was there progression?

Of course the PC will be more powerful. However, that's at least double to triple the price of the PS5. Plus, those console exclusive games are what makes owning and playing on the system so good.

I was a Sega owner up to the Saturn, then MS (XB org, XB360). The PS4 was my first PlayStation, and the games I played through that generation were like nothing before. I can't wait for PS5. You can keep your PC.

 

[Radecx]

Well this thread has been plagued with pcmr posts lol..

 

[Deathshadow]

Not everyone is obsess about specs, numbers, Ray Tracing. Mainly PC-only gamers. They come to PS5 thread, purposely derail the thread, go off-topic & talk about PC in a PS5 thread. Comparing PC superior performance to PS5, yet they ignore the price gap between both platforms.

They downplay everything about PlayStation, focus only on the negative & ignore any positive news. Very toxic.

That's why when I see certain users who post, the moment I see their username, I just scroll past & ignore. Can't be bothered to read their nonsense. Their post usually have a condescending tone. No point wasting my time to read or reply their post. That will result in endless back-and-forth & pointless conversation. No need reply to every single post. Just ignore them & move on.

 

[Boiijek]

Well this thread has been plagued with pcmr posts lol..

Exactly. All I wanted to know was everyone's pre order status and games they were getting. End up come here got wikipedia page

 

[Deathshadow]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/demons-souls

Highest reviewed PS5 launch game. Bluepoint deliver another stellar & excellent remake. Sony should definitely purchase Bluepoint & add them to their first-party Worldwide Studios.

DS is probably the best launch game since Mario 64 on Nintendo 64 (I didn't forget the overhyped Legend of Zelda: BOTW. Just not a fan of the gameplay)

On a side note, the default Performance Mode is definitely the recommended way to experience this game. Dynamic 4K 60fps looks great, offering a superior experience compared to Cinematic Mode (Native 4K 30fps).

For consoles, I feel native 4K is a waste of resources (Although some games like Sackboy & Astro's Playroom is Native 4K 60fps). Framerate over resolution always.

As long a game is fun, looks good & plays great. That's what we play games for in the first place, is to have fun & memorable experiences that can only be had in gaming.

 

[Radecx]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/demons-souls

Highest reviewed PS5 launch game. Bluepoint deliver another stellar & excellent remake. Sony should definitely purchase Bluepoint & add them to their first-party Worldwide Studios.

DS is probably the best launch game since Mario 64 on Nintendo 64 (I didn't forget the overhyped Legend of Zelda: BOTW. Just not a fan of the gameplay)

On a side note, the default Performance Mode is definitely the recommended way to experience this game. Dynamic 4K 60fps looks great, offering a superior experience compared to Cinematic Mode (Native 4K 30fps).

For consoles, I feel native 4K is a waste of resources (Although some games like Sackboy & Astro's Playroom is Native 4K 60fps). Framerate over resolution always.

As long a game is fun, looks good & plays great. That's what we play games for in the first place, is to have fun & memorable experiences that can only be had in gaming.

To be fair that's only from 7 reviews. Will probably sit around 90 when the majority gives their scores.

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

 

[Elysium87]

is it possible to log on ps store web site, redeem the ps plus collection and play on ps4? got no ps5 at all.

 

[Radecx]

is it possible to log on ps store web site, redeem the ps plus collection and play on ps4? got no ps5 at all.

No. Need to login in ps5 first and add to library. Once added, can download to ps4

 

[jedi5diah]

5 days to go

PS FU sony

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