[Official] TF10 Appreciation thread

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MO for AudioHub cable:

1. lunzi88

Cable material:Silver/Copper Hybrid
Cable Length: default 48" (1.2m)
Plug: Oyaide P-3.5SRL
Wearing Style: Normal (over-ear, down the side of chin)

2. Randius

Cable material:Silver/Copper Hybrid
Cable Length: default 48" (1.2m)
Plug: Oyaide P-3.5SR
Wearing Style: Reversed (reverse-mod, over-ear, down the side of chin) tentative

Hey bro, i'm interested in the Silver/Copper Hybrid.

Can i ask what's the diff between all the types of plugs?

And whats the sound like for silver copper hybrid, full silver/full copper?

Sorry, abit noob here. ahahah
 

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what is the meaning of this : Wearing Style: Reversed (reverse-mod, over-ear, down the side of chin) tentative ?

reversed - right goes left, left goes right?
over-ear - wearing style like westone um3x/earsonics sm3/ shure se535?
 

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now, i hard 2 decide which cable shld i use when my TF10 arrives...

i used to own the tf10 last time, and after my stock cable died i changed to es2 cable.

to be frank, there are no audible difference to me lol.

i just need a good and lasting cable
 

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i used to own the tf10 last time, and after my stock cable died i changed to es2 cable.

to be frank, there are no audible difference to me lol.

i just need a good and lasting cable

quite true, lol, i would want a white cable with small sized right angle plugs, thats all..
 

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Hey bro, i'm interested in the Silver/Copper Hybrid.

Can i ask what's the diff between all the types of plugs?

And whats the sound like for silver copper hybrid, full silver/full copper?

Sorry, abit noob here. ahahah

The plugs to me is build quality and aesthetics.
The resistance and output from a DAP dont need high purity.

as you're not running a high power amp unlike a hi fi set.

The analogy is simple, you have a 50 cent coin hole(resistance) and a bucket of water (output)..
the flow is good but if you have that same hole with 10 buckets of water trying to pass through it, it'll be a bottle neck.

The diminished returns and audio difference is almost insignificant.
In hifi, people are willing to pay for that difference because it is definitely audible - the 50 cent coin becomes 1.5x bigger and with 10 buckets waiting to pass through a bigger hole, of course it'll make a difference.

Copper is slow boomy yet intimate, great for vocals.
Silver is fast, harsh but very detailed, good for instrumentals.

hybrid you'll have best of both worth if you setup is not too bright and not too warmth.. so it'll give you a balance output in the sound presentation.

what is the meaning of this : Wearing Style: Reversed (reverse-mod, over-ear, down the side of chin) tentative ?

reversed - right goes left, left goes right?
over-ear - wearing style like westone um3x/earsonics sm3/ shure se535?

Reverse mod is when you flip the left and right IEM so that it doesn't stick out rather the IEM is flush with your ears.
This helps with fit issue because some people have very tiny ears and the memory wires doesn't allow it to get a good fit.
I have this problem because I walk around alot, and the wire tends to tug the IEM out of my ear.

This is with the fact i don't want to look weird with 2 ear plugs sticking out of my ears.

over the ear and down the chin - this is because some people wear it behind their neck and down their waist.
The wire is dangling at the back of their body.
 
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what is the meaning of this : Wearing Style: Reversed (reverse-mod, over-ear, down the side of chin) tentative ?

reversed - right goes left, left goes right?
over-ear - wearing style like westone um3x/earsonics sm3/ shure se535?

Reversed style of wearing is referring to the flip mod where the left monitor is now on right side connected to right cable and vice versa for the right monitor. The idea is to place the earphones flush with the ears. This may have serious impact on the sound as the polarity on the cable is now reversed. I think weibchen needs to know this so that the cables' polarity can be set right.

correct, over-ear refers to wearing style like UM3X/SM3/SE535.
 

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The plugs to me is build quality and aesthetics.
The resistance and output from a DAP dont need high purity.

as you're not running a high power amp unlike a hi fi set.

The analogy is simple, you have a 50 cent coin hole(resistance) and a bucket of water (output)..
the flow is good but if you have that same hole with 10 buckets of water trying to pass through it, it'll be a bottle neck.

The diminished returns and audio difference is almost insignificant.
In hifi, people are willing to pay for that difference because it is definitely audible - the 50 cent coin becomes 1.5x bigger and with 10 buckets waiting to pass through a bigger hole, of course it'll make a difference.

Copper is slow boomy yet intimate, great for vocals.
Silver is fast, harsh but very detailed, good for instrumentals.

hybrid you'll have best of both worth if you setup is not too bright and not too warmth.. so it'll give you a balance output.

Ok thanks for the answers.
So which plug do you reccommend most?
 

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the pailiccs that I bundled inside is good enough - sometimes i even use cheap neutrik 3.5mm nickle ones for myself.

Doesn't really matter to me - the conductors inside makes the difference.
 

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the pailiccs that I bundled inside is good enough - sometimes i even use cheap neutrik 3.5mm nickle ones for myself.

Doesn't really matter to me - the conductors inside makes the difference.

is the pailiccs gold plated, and are there any right angled ones?
 

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is the pailiccs gold plated, and are there any right angled ones?

There doesn't seem to be any Pailiccs right angled plug and yes, they are gold plated.

IMO, the slim version included by weibchen is much better looking.
 

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es8 cable for 48. but onli 1 pc. currently im neg. with jaben for better offer. u interested? i think its a great deal compared to 70 bucks for copper from audiohub. although audiohub may have better customer service, imo not a great deal. btw both are copper, just pure to wat degree. es8 is 99.99
 

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weib how would u compare ur copper wire and es8 cable that does not nd to be shaven to fit triplefi?

ES8 is nostrial hair - mine is 28 awg solid core.

Thats like one hair from your nose vs a spaghetti strand.

Thats enough comparison liao lol
 

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Ok thanks for the answers.
So which plug do you reccommend most?

Plugs are all the same. For me I would choose viablue because it looks the nicest. Switchcraft and oyaide will follow second/third
Paillics very ugly. I don't really like
 

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how small is spaghetti strand cos according to wiki, 28 awg is 0.321 mm in diameter. i think that is much smaller than spaghetti
 
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