Old pc to upgrade processor just for windows 11?

[BenBen010103]

I have an old PC running on ROG Strix B-350-F Gaming, with AMD Ryzen 7 1700, Ram DDR4 -3200 8GB x 2, display GTX 1060 6GB, PSU likely 650W, was thinking if should I just replace the processor only to run windows 11 as my current ryzen 7 1700 is not supported.

If yes, then which processor should I get and bios need to update to latest as well? PSU also need to upgrade?

Or maybe should just forget about running windows 11 on this old PC and wait until it dies off and save for a new one in future?

 

[liewhl]

what is the use of this pc? if it is just for light entertainment, then i think you can just use the bypass method and upgrade to win 11. you can just use that until MS decide to stop providing update to user with incompatible cpu

 

[naked123]

I have an old PC running on ROG Strix B-350-F Gaming, with AMD Ryzen 7 1700, Ram DDR4 -3200 8GB x 2, display GTX 1060 6GB, PSU likely 650W, was thinking if should I just replace the processor only to run windows 11 as my current ryzen 7 1700 is not supported.

If yes, then which processor should I get and bios need to update to latest as well? PSU also need to upgrade?

Or maybe should just forget about running windows 11 on this old PC and wait until it dies off and save for a new one in future?

you can install W11 Enterprise LTSC

 

[oddbasket]

Judging by previous prices, black Friday may be a ble to get 5600 at just over $100, 5700/5800 over $200. Just need to update bios.

AMD didn't patch the microcode on 3000 chips and older for the last major security flaw, so just go for 5000 cpus if looking for continued support.

 

[86technie]

I have an old PC running on ROG Strix B-350-F Gaming, with AMD Ryzen 7 1700, Ram DDR4 -3200 8GB x 2, display GTX 1060 6GB, PSU likely 650W, was thinking if should I just replace the processor only to run windows 11 as my current ryzen 7 1700 is not supported.

If yes, then which processor should I get and bios need to update to latest as well? PSU also need to upgrade?

Or maybe should just forget about running windows 11 on this old PC and wait until it dies off and save for a new one in future?

PSU upgrade is not needed unless you are going for higher end GPU.
AMD Ryzen 1st by now can be quite weak so if you upgrade is not for the benefit of Windows 11.
It will improve system and game performance by a lot.

Definetely you will need to upgdate your motherboard BIOS before upgrading the CPU
if not it won't post/boot.
FYI Ryzen 5600 (Non-X) is selling now around $180 so you consider whether you want to change or not.

BTW even if you are using Windows 10 after change CPU no need to update to Win 11 just use.
Some may not be used to Win 11 like the start menu, icon, file explorer and many others
are very different from Win 10.

You still have about a year to plan so nothing to worry.

 

[Encrypted11]

All drivers work, no yellow bangs. PC runs smooth.

 

[BenBen010103]

Thanks for the suggestions so far, the upgrade to 5600 does appeal to me a lot, so likely I will consider that. On a side note, do I need to upgrade the cooler since I am replacing the cpu or just use back stock cooler?

 

[86technie]

Thanks for the suggestions so far, the upgrade to 5600 does appeal to me a lot, so likely I will consider that. On a side note, do I need to upgrade the cooler since I am replacing the cpu or just use back stock cooler?

This depends on you, some people use AMD Stock cooler but doesn't really cool the CPU very well.

Cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212 ARGB or Thermalright around $30+ will do fine.
These CPU doesn't need beefy cooler or AIO to cool it.

 

[86technie]

All drivers work, no yellow bangs. PC runs smooth.

Not recommended to run on such old hardware, it run smooth mainly due to SSD
helping to leverage the system performance.
Dual core parts by now running demanding OS like WIn 11 even with SSD will crawl.

I did had my own hands on experience with such system using modified WIn 11 installation.
Even if it can work, you don't have the full feature of Win 11 like TPM and Secure boot
enabled to protect the PC and data.

It's very sluggish, if anyone want a cheap Win 11 PC get a second hand AMD Ryzen PC
at least 3600 will do.

 

[BenBen010103]

This depends on you, some people use AMD Stock cooler but doesn't really cool the CPU very well.

Cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212 ARGB or Thermalright around $30+ will do fine.
These CPU doesn't need beefy cooler or AIO to cool it.

Ic, likely I consider cooler master hyper 620s instead as the price like not much more than 212, provided my casing can fit.

Other than that should I maybe also add another 2 x 8gb 3200 ram to make it 32gb(or probably 2x 16gb to make it 48gb if it's possible or make sense?), since there are another balance 2 slots on the motherboard? But I am not exactly sure if there is any limit by the motherboard in terms of ram speed on all slots.

 

[firesong]

Sweet spot should be the 5700X. Based on recent Amazon promo pricing, consider that for under $200. But IIRC the 5600X was going for around $120ish, so it's likely better value for an immediate update. As always, update the BIOS to the latest first, before you swap out the CPU. Also, check to make sure you have a heat sink in the box.

There was a 2x32GB RAM promo during the last sale also, if RAM is something you are looking to bump. IMO 16GB is still fine.

Add a fast SSD if you don't already have one, and your system should be good to go for another 3-4y depending on your GPU - I think the 1660-6GB is fine for around 2y if you game with conservative settings for the newer games. But if you want something a little bit better for 1080p, I got a 6600XT off Carou for $200 recently.

 

[BenBen010103]

Sweet spot should be the 5700X. Based on recent Amazon promo pricing, consider that for under $200. But IIRC the 5600X was going for around $120ish, so it's likely better value for an immediate update. As always, update the BIOS to the latest first, before you swap out the CPU. Also, check to make sure you have a heat sink in the box.

There was a 2x32GB RAM promo during the last sale also, if RAM is something you are looking to bump. IMO 16GB is still fine.

Add a fast SSD if you don't already have one, and your system should be good to go for another 3-4y depending on your GPU - I think the 1660-6GB is fine for around 2y if you game with conservative settings for the newer games. But if you want something a little bit better for 1080p, I got a 6600XT off Carou for $200 recently.

OK I take a look at 5700x as well, but as of now the price point of 5600 or 5600x is about slightly more than half of that. I'm not sure the performance of 5700x justifies that price difference.

As for the ram, the mobo supports up to 64gb only, I am thinking not to throw out the existing 2x 8gb so considering to get another 2x8gb to make it 32gb only. Else will be getting 2x16gb in the primary slot and the existing 2x8gb in the secondary slot.

Existing I have ssd already although its only 250gb but I only load the os into it. Maybe in future for consideration to swop it out.

 

[Bumiputera]

OK I take a look at 5700x as well, but as of now the price point of 5600 or 5600x is about slightly more than half of that. I'm not sure the performance of 5700x justifies that price difference.

As for the ram, the mobo supports up to 64gb only, I am thinking not to throw out the existing 2x 8gb so considering to get another 2x8gb to make it 32gb only. Else will be getting 2x16gb in the primary slot and the existing 2x8gb in the secondary slot.

Existing I have ssd already although its only 250gb but I only load the os into it. Maybe in future for consideration to swop it out.

Wait for black Friday, maybe there will be great deals for Ryzen 5000 series CPU.

During last month Amazon prime day, Ryzen 5600 was going for s$106 while 5700x was going for s$147.

 

[AngelRomeo]

All drivers work, no yellow bangs. PC runs smooth.

both my desktops 4th gen i5, still running windows 10. i dont dare to upgrade to windows 11.
1 using hdd another using ssd, the ssd load windows 10 very fast. load stuff also very fast.

i will retire both desktops next year.

 

[sadboy]

In my opinion, if we are primarily using the system for basic tasks such as surfing the internet and banking, an older PC with Windows 11 (requiring the 101 installation pattern) would be sufficient.

However, I do not fully concur with Microsoft’s decision to discontinue support for older CPUs if the customer only desires a basic machine for everyday usage. While the additional features of Windows 11 are commendable, they are not essential for a user seeking a basic and up-to-date operating system to access the internet.

 

[Encrypted11]

both my desktops 4th gen i5, still running windows 10. i dont dare to upgrade to windows 11.
1 using hdd another using ssd, the ssd load windows 10 very fast. load stuff also very fast.

i will retire both desktops next year.

You can't upgrade anyway. Soft-blocked unless you're on 7th gen +.

Only clean install and bypass.

If its just for basic computing, get a LTSC license to limit auto background OS patches that robs processing power while you're working.

For the SSD system usage should be still fairly pleasant as long as you go to the indexing settings page and make sure it is complete after your initial install because that is fairly CPU/disk intensive on old PCs. For basic internet use, browsers just feel more responsive on 24H2.

HDD system, don't try till you have an SSD in there. Just a suggestion.

For newer PC apps that are more resource intensive obviously your PC will show its age, unrelated to the OS.

Like what @sadboy said, if you're just looking to stay secure and do basic iBanking that's an option. Otherwise switch to Linux.

Edit: One of the more important visual improvement is significantly better native display/UI scaling 2K and beyond. No workarounds or patches needed. If on FHD you don't see it.

 

[Shahmatt]

This depends on you, some people use AMD Stock cooler but doesn't really cool the CPU very well.

IIRC, the stock Wraith Spire was a very good stock cooler

 

[BenBen010103]

IIRC, the stock Wraith Spire was a very good stock cooler

I think my current cooler is the wraith spire. However, it has been like 7 years already, not sure the fan will die anytime, although I may be able to reuse this cooler after replacing with new processor.

BTW I see 5700 is priced quite cheap, is it not better than a 5600x?

On a side note what are some of the good and compatible ram brands/model available nowadays? Thinking to just get 2 x 16gb

 

[naked123]

I think my current cooler is the wraith spire. However, it has been like 7 years already, not sure the fan will die anytime, although I may be able to reuse this cooler after replacing with new processor.

BTW I see 5700 is priced quite cheap, is it not better than a 5600x?

On a side note what are some of the good and compatible ram brands/model available nowadays? Thinking to just get 2 x 16gb

5700 non x is based on 5700G/5800H but with iGPU fused off

less L3 cache but monolithic die so it's easier to cool.

 

[tsteo77]

I have an old PC running on ROG Strix B-350-F Gaming, with AMD Ryzen 7 1700, Ram DDR4 -3200 8GB x 2, display GTX 1060 6GB, PSU likely 650W, was thinking if should I just replace the processor only to run windows 11 as my current ryzen 7 1700 is not supported.

If yes, then which processor should I get and bios need to update to latest as well? PSU also need to upgrade?

Or maybe should just forget about running windows 11 on this old PC and wait until it dies off and save for a new one in future?

You can upgrade to win11 without replacing the old pc. Windows x lite os > https://windowsxlite.com
can solve your problem. I have been using one of their o and it's safe.