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1) Is it possible to study in poly and yet take a few subjects like A Maths for Os as a private candidate ? I went and did some research and for uni courses, most need A Maths at O level standard with a passing grade.

So I was thinking if it's possible to sit for O level exams as a private candidate and yet go to poly in April to start my diploma course with my original o level certificate.

2) is it possible to study courses at local U that is not similar to the course studied in a poly ? Assuming with a GPA of 3.80. Can I study any course that meets my GPA score ?

3) is psychology a recommendable course ? I heard the intake is very low in local U and it's very competitive. As a future job, will it be stable ?

4) lastly, is going overseas to study at a U recommendable? ( taking in mind the costs, lifestyle, if it's recognised ) Possible to list a few recognized universities in Australia, Canada and England?

Thank you very much
 

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1) Is it possible to study in poly and yet take a few subjects like A Maths for Os as a private candidate ? I went and did some research and for uni courses, most need A Maths at O level standard with a passing grade.

So I was thinking if it's possible to sit for O level exams as a private candidate and yet go to poly in April to start my diploma course with my original o level certificate.

2) is it possible to study courses at local U that is not similar to the course studied in a poly ? Assuming with a GPA of 3.80. Can I study any course that meets my GPA score ?

3) is psychology a recommendable course ? I heard the intake is very low in local U and it's very competitive. As a future job, will it be stable ?

4) lastly, is going overseas to study at a U recommendable? ( taking in mind the costs, lifestyle, if it's recognised ) Possible to list a few recognized universities in Australia, Canada and England?

Thank you very much

1) Yes, it is possible to take o level subjects as a private candidate while pursuing your poly diploma. I know of some people who actually did that. Of course, you will need to be able to juggle both and make take into account for possible clashes (check with your poly).

2) From my own experience, not sure if it has changed, but usually, universities look at both your GPA score and your O level score. They do not take into account of your course. However, some faculties from the three local unis may call you up for interview before deciding whether they should offer you.

3) Sorry, I cannot advise you on this as I am not in psychology. But are you referring to psychiatry? If I am not wrong, they are two different fields. Psychology can be associated with marketing etc and I believe is more common. One can specialize in psychology at NTU in a later year (not sure when)

4) This is subjective really. Different universities are famous for different courses. You need to know yourself what you want and do research according to that.

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2) is it possible to study courses at local U that is not similar to the course studied in a poly ? Assuming with a GPA of 3.80. Can I study any course that meets my GPA score ?

Not necessarily. Please refer to the following list of relevant / acceptable dipomas.

For NUS:
NUS - Office of Admissions : Local Applicants

For NTU:
https://wis.ntu.edu.sg/webexe/owa/adm_appl.relevant_diploma?student_type=F
(Do note that a Diploma with Merit allows you to bypass this and apply for any course in NTU !)

You are correct that certain courses have additional subject requisites - most commonly Additional Mathematics. I do indeed encourage you to take it up over your polytechnic day. :)
 

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Is possible to take O's while in poly. I know someone who did that during his first year in poly. Got a better result and switched to jc.

For psychology, be prepared to further study atleast till masters.

N yes, certain courses will not be eligible for u... For some uni majors, all poly students are excluded regardless of wat u studied in poly or O's
 

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1) Is it possible to study in poly and yet take a few subjects like A Maths for Os as a private candidate ? I went and did some research and for uni courses, most need A Maths at O level standard with a passing grade.

So I was thinking if it's possible to sit for O level exams as a private candidate and yet go to poly in April to start my diploma course with my original o level certificate.

2) is it possible to study courses at local U that is not similar to the course studied in a poly ? Assuming with a GPA of 3.80. Can I study any course that meets my GPA score ?

3) is psychology a recommendable course ? I heard the intake is very low in local U and it's very competitive. As a future job, will it be stable ?

4) lastly, is going overseas to study at a U recommendable? ( taking in mind the costs, lifestyle, if it's recognised ) Possible to list a few recognized universities in Australia, Canada and England?

Thank you very much

I agree with Jackel_Yang, you have to look at the relevant and acceptable diplomas for each degree course.

SMU, SUTD, UniSIM courses apparently accept all poly diplomas.

For SIT,
Admission Requirements - Local Diplomas
http://www.singaporetech.edu.sg/images/stories/download/articulated diploma.pdf

You do not need to take A Maths, if your diploma has equivalent or higher Maths module. Example, Foundation Maths or Engineering Maths.
Else, you can also consider university preparatory programmes from various polytechnics,
http://www.tp.edu.sg/courses/part-time-courses/university-preparatory-programme
http://www.sp.edu.sg/wps/portal/vp-...3H2NjA3cDPULsh0VAZKUCm8!/?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=
http://www.np.edu.sg/cet/courses/shortcourses/Pages/default.aspx

For stable psychology jobs, perhaps you can look at SAF and MOE? They require counsellors and psychologist.
http://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/eas/education-and-career-guidance-counsellor/
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/dxo/careers_vacancy.html

Any university within the ranked charts will be fine,
World University Rankings 2014-2015 - Times Higher Education
QS World University Rankings® 2014/15 | Top Universities
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If your parents can afford to comfortably send u overseas (it is about $200k-300k for a degree) then go... The experience gained from living oversea and being expose to different culture is intangible and it really does open your doors. Just make sure u choose a good uni to make your money worth
 

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3) is psychology a recommendable course ? I heard the intake is very low in local U and it's very competitive. As a future job, will it be stable ?

4) lastly, is going overseas to study at a U recommendable? ( taking in mind the costs, lifestyle, if it's recognised ) Possible to list a few recognized universities in Australia, Canada and England?

3 - we dont know about you, how to recommend its the right program for u. stable job? iron rice bowl no retrenchment is what u seek?

4 - recognize and good different story leh. taking in mind of the cost, what kind of cost are u comfortable with?

say MUN its only cad$20Kayr, O levels is what is takes to enroll in Psych
Become an Undergraduate Student | Tuition & Related Fees
http://www.mun.ca/regoff/admission/applying/International_Admissions_Chart.pdf

UTAS is cheapest in OZ. its still ~aud$40k a yr.
Courses by Type & Fees - International Future Students - University of Tasmania, Australia

others costly.. so whats budget?
 

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just to add another foto note about maths.

another way is to take engineering maths in poly. it is tier at EM 1 2 and 3. maybe a EM4 depending on the dipolma. I do not know which poly u are in, but when i was in NP, there are night classes for physics and engineering maths for Part-timers doing PT dip in engineering. best is to check with the maths faculty of the poly. talk to the program head.

I would say all the way to EM3 (u must score at least grade B) is all u need for university, UNLESS u are going for Computerscience, ComputerEng and Electrical/electronics engineering. those u need all the way to EM4, as u need to hv the knowledge for Statistical maths, discrete wave maths couple tgt with laplace transformation/integration and do some crazy programming into fourier-binomial discrete transformation.

To score Grade B for A maths requires alot of hardwork. but if u are heading for the courses i am talking about, u need C maths or F maths. A maths is not enuff
 

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psychology degree i feel can get in SG. it is like a general degree in liberal arts to me.

doing masters in psychology in overseas is sth i would encourage as it opens up doors and change u as a person how u think through things in ur head.

if u gonna to spend dgree n masters in psychology in australia (as example).
just tut fees alone is ard 150ksgd for 5 years -- averaging out from the costs from various universities. living expenses is a minimum average of 20k x5 years = 100k sgd based on current exchange rate. just rental, it is 1000aud per mth on the average (all inclusive)

disclaimer:as abv is purely personal opinion based on personal observation while doing my minor in psychology
 
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3 - we dont know about you, how to recommend its the right program for u. stable job? iron rice bowl no retrenchment is what u seek?

4 - recognize and good different story leh. taking in mind of the cost, what kind of cost are u comfortable with?

say MUN its only cad$20Kayr, O levels is what is takes to enroll in Psych
Become an Undergraduate Student | Tuition & Related Fees
http://www.mun.ca/regoff/admission/applying/International_Admissions_Chart.pdf

UTAS is cheapest in OZ. its still ~aud$40k a yr.
Courses by Type & Fees - International Future Students - University of Tasmania, Australia

others costly.. so whats budget?

Patryn is the Canada / US expert... ask Patryn, lol

actually i think studying in canada or US, or UK, probably cheaper than studying in australia... only thing is distance, familarity and PR
 

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1) Is it possible to study in poly and yet take a few subjects like A Maths for Os as a private candidate ? I went and did some research and for uni courses, most need A Maths at O level standard with a passing grade.

So I was thinking if it's possible to sit for O level exams as a private candidate and yet go to poly in April to start my diploma course with my original o level certificate.

2) is it possible to study courses at local U that is not similar to the course studied in a poly ? Assuming with a GPA of 3.80. Can I study any course that meets my GPA score ?

3) is psychology a recommendable course ? I heard the intake is very low in local U and it's very competitive. As a future job, will it be stable ?

4) lastly, is going overseas to study at a U recommendable? ( taking in mind the costs, lifestyle, if it's recognised ) Possible to list a few recognized universities in Australia, Canada and England?

Thank you very much

1) Yes, it is possible. In fact, I'd recommend it. In hindsight, I believe A math is not 'Additional' at all. In fact, it is the fundamental of almost all math that uni students face.

2) Yes it is possible, if you get a high enough GPA.

3) The intake is low because there is not much market demand for it. You can see here for the employment rate:

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/post-secondary/files/ges-ntu.pdf

Nevertheless, if you have the interest and have good work and study ethics, it would not be that hard to secure a job. Just ensure that you remain at the top half of your cohort and you will be able to secure a job.

4) There is no such thing as recognizable IMO. There is no set list of universities that you can go to that will confirm you a job. At the same time, no one can say that you will never get a job if you go to X university.
 

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the deadline for applying to UK unis is coming up! I wrote a quick guide to applying based on my experiences 2 years ago, hope it'll help anyone who is thinking of applying! You can read it at chloecake.blogspot[dot]com
 

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the deadline for applying to UK unis is coming up! I wrote a quick guide to applying based on my experiences 2 years ago, hope it'll help anyone who is thinking of applying! You can read it at chloecake.blogspot[dot]com

Some additional information to reference.

AN OVERVIEW OF THE UK UNIVERSITY SYSTEM
Professor T.E.A. Beravale provides an introduction to the UK university system and to finding suitable courses (BA, MA, MSc and PhD programmes) for children, spouses and diplomats themselves​

UK UNIVERSITIES appeal to students from all over the world: many diplomats currently serving in London were themselves educated in Britain. Over the years, I have assisted many diplomats in finding suitable university programmes for their children, spouses and, in some cases, even themselves.

For most children of diplomats, it will be natural to study at one of the numerous colleges and universities located in London. The University of London comprises 18 colleges and schools – including University College London (UCL), Queen Mary, King’s College London (KCL), the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE) and the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) – all of which have a large degree of autonomy. Imperial College London, while in the past part of the University of London, is now fully independent.

London hosts numerous other institutions of higher learning, such as City University London, University of Westminster and London Metropolitan University. An interesting new addition to this scene is the establishment of the New College of Humanities, a private university, charging £17,640 per year, which enrolled its first students in autumn 2012. (See page 16.)

Nevertheless, it may happen that a desired area of specialisation is not available in London, or simply that a student wishes to attend university somewhere outside the capital. Fortunately, there are many opportunities further afield. In recent years, I have met children of diplomats enrolled at the universities of Oxford, Cambridge, Surrey, Sheffield, Kingston, Newcastle and Kent.

University admission is typically on the basis of A-level results, although more and more offers are being made on the basis of International Baccalaureate (IB) results. Some universities also set their own admissions tests – for both entry and particular subjects.

Applications at undergraduate level are centralised through the Universities and Colleges Admissions Service (UCAS). Undergraduate students are allowed to specify up to five alternative course choices at different universities, although they cannot apply to both Cambridge and Oxford. All applicants must prove competence in English either by getting a grade C or above in GCSE English or by taking a special examination. For students who are admitted on the basis of A-levels, depending on subject choice one A-level in the area of study – with a good grade – is likely to be a requirement. For admission at postgraduate level (such as for MA, MSc and PhD programmes), students make their applications directly to as many different universities as they please.

Britain is home to some of the oldest universities in the world. Though the exact date is unknown, the University of Oxford was established sometime before 1167, followed by Cambridge in 1209. North of the border, the University of St Andrews is Scotland’s oldest university, having been founded in 1413; during that century the University of Glasgow (1451) and the University of Aberdeen (1495) were also established.

British universities consistently rank among the best in the world. In a 2012 world ranking report produced by the Centre for World-Class Universities at Shanghai Jiao Tong University, Cambridge placed fifth (after Harvard, Stanford, MIT, and Berkeley, in the US), while Oxford placed tenth (see www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html). Meanwhile, in the QS World University Rankings for 2012, Cambridge placed second, UCL placed fourth, Oxford placed fifth and Imperial College London was ranked sixth. (see QS World University Rankings - 2012 | Top Universities). These, like other rankings, are based on varying criteria which are themselves given different weights, therefore no particular ranking can be said to be ‘correct’. Nonetheless, the results do indicate an impressive breadth and depth of quality among UK universities.

In addition to the overall rankings of universities, different subjects are also ranked. For instance, the University of East Anglia is highly regarded for International Development and Environment Studies, as well as for its courses in Drama, Dance, Creative Writing and Literary Translation. Similarly, the University of Manchester is 24th in the world (according to QS World University Rankings 2012) for Politics and International Relations. Imperial College London, on the other hand, does not offer these subjects at all, but is known to be outstanding in Sciences and Medicine. It is therefore crucial to seek out as much information as possible, for while the overall reputation of a university certainly matters, sometimes its reputation in particular subjects, especially at the postgraduate level, can be just as important, even if less widely known. Through its educational supplements, The Guardian
(University guide 2013 subject tables | Education | The Guardian) provides valuable assistance on this score.

As part of the coalition government’s policies towards higher education, a review of student tuition fees has been undertaken. ‘As of September 2012, the maximum tuition fee for home students (IE, UK and EU nationals) is £9,000.’ Most universities charge fees near the maximum. All students paying the new fee can access a government loan to cover it. The loans are repaid by graduates according to their earnings, and nothing is repaid on earnings under £21,000; EU students’ repayments will vary according to their country of residence.

Additional maintenance loans are only available to British students; however grants and bursaries are available from universities to assist students with the cost of living. EU students apply for tuition fee loans from the Student Finance Services European Team, tel 0141 243 3570 or email EU_Team@slc.co.uk This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. .

Student fees vary depending on the programme, the student’s nationality and to some extent the university itself. While the government has put a cap on tuition fees for home students (UK and EU) at the undergraduate level, it does not regulate fees charged to non-EU students or by postgraduate courses. This is due to the ‘formula’ by which the government funds higher education with subsidies for home students at the undergraduate level. As an example, for its BA programme in Economics, UCL charges £9,000 per year for home students but £15,750 for non-EU students (2013-14). For an MSc in Economics, the same institution charges £14,250 for home students and £17,750 for non-EU students. On the other hand, LSE, which appears to be more market-oriented in its pricing policy, charges all students – regardless of their nationality – £22,176 for its MSc course in Economics.

The increase in fees has met with great opposition from students. Moreover, it caused a record number of applications for university entrance in 2011, as students did their utmost to be enrolled while the lower fees were still in place, especially because they would pay the lower fees for their entire programme. Applications were down in 2012. The long run consequences of higher fees and the new model for student funding remain to be seen.

Yet these fees may already appear exorbitant to many, especially students from developing countries. My recommendation is that embassies seek to develop scholarship programmes for their students, in collaboration with universities and the private sector.

Compared to English universities, Scottish universities are free for pupils who have lived in Scotland for the three years prior to university and are also free for EU students on the basis that EU law does not allow discrimination against those from other member states; those holding British passports however must pay the full tuition fees. It should also be noted that Scotland’s education system differs in certain other key respects. In this article I cannot go into much detail, but I will mention that students in Scotland who wish to attend university take ‘Highers’ and ‘Advanced Highers’ (instead of AS- and A-levels), standard undergraduate degrees are also four years long, which includes a Masters (three year BA/BSc degrees are available.)

Of course, in choosing a university one should look not only for academic excellence, but also for what other experiences the university can bring in terms of its location and extra-curricular activities. As I have pointed out in this article, much relevant information is available online; furthermore, many universities arrange open days for prospective students, and admissions tutors are usually available for one-on-one consultations throughout the year. It should also be mentioned that every university publishes a prospectus with full details of admission criteria and descriptions of all the courses offered. Given the life-changing nature of the choice at hand, all these sources of information should be investigated as thoroughly as possible.

Taken from: AN OVERVIEW OF THE UK UNIVERSITY SYSTEM - DIPLOMAT MAGAZINE | DIPLOMAT MAGAZINE

Hope it helps.
 

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2) Yes it is possible, if you get a high enough GPA.

4) There is no such thing as recognizable IMO. There is no set list of universities that you can go to that will confirm you a job. At the same time, no one can say that you will never get a job if you go to X university.



so that means even if someone is studying designing can enter into a local U, studying accountancy so long as his or her GPA is very high? Like there is a chance to restart all over in Uni, because what he learnt is different in poly. or is it that the course have to be somewhat similar to the one studied in poly? Like if accounting then only can choose business related .. ? because if it only depends on GPA and Os result then its an advantage..

and a JC lecturer told me that many students went overseas to study popular UNIs there however when returned to SG, due to different programmes and techniques etc (learnt overseas), the uni cert wasnt recognized. This is my concern. And i was also told only a couple of unis in aus is really recognized by SG. :s22: driving me crazy
 

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3 - we dont know about you, how to recommend its the right program for u. stable job? iron rice bowl no retrenchment is what u seek?

4 - recognize and good different story leh. taking in mind of the cost, what kind of cost are u comfortable with?

say MUN its only cad$20Kayr, O levels is what is takes to enroll in Psych
Become an Undergraduate Student | Tuition & Related Fees
http://www.mun.ca/regoff/admission/applying/International_Admissions_Chart.pdf

UTAS is cheapest in OZ. its still ~aud$40k a yr.
Courses by Type & Fees - International Future Students - University of Tasmania, Australia

others costly.. so whats budget?

hey heyy, i meant it in a general term, posting it on forums are for people's opinions and advices, not for attacks. retrenchment or whatsoever is mandatory, when it comes, it comes. i wasnt asking if there is a possibility for a perfect job right? if someone asked if accountancy is recommendable, just say extra working hours are required and its not recommendable to people who cant take stress. same goes for psychology since i have no idea if its generally recommendable.

yes yes, im very sure u had never met confusions or dilemmas in life before because you can ride a bike right from the moment you were born.
 

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hey heyy, i meant it in a general term, posting it on forums are for people's opinions and advices, not for attacks. retrenchment or whatsoever is mandatory, when it comes, it comes. i wasnt asking if there is a possibility for a perfect job right? if someone asked if accountancy is recommendable, just say extra working hours are required and its not recommendable to people who cant take stress. same goes for psychology since i have no idea if its generally recommendable.

yes yes, im very sure u had never met confusions or dilemmas in life before because you can ride a bike right from the moment you were born.

Cool it. I don't think patryn33 was trying to be mean. It seems that patryn33 was trying to get more specific information from you so that s/he could better advise you.


Cheers!
 

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3) is psychology a recommendable course ? I heard the intake is very low in local U and it's very competitive. As a future job, will it be stable ?

Thank you very much

I will answer for qn 3 only, as 1 and 2, Im not too sure and qn 4, it really depend on the program u wanna take and the uni.

With a Bachelors in psych, there's a lot of different work you can do, as it is a general degree. If u plan to become a psychologist in Singapore, aim to get at least a Masters, as it's safer for career prospects. There is only a few Masters programs in Singapore and very competitive to get in. Hence many will go overseas.
if you looking for undergraduate degrees, other than the local unis,there are also quite a few private institutions that offer them too.

stability in job is very hard to say, as it depends on what job you have and your own persistence..

PM me or email me at sgpsychstud@gmail if you have more questions.
 

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so that means even if someone is studying designing can enter into a local U, studying accountancy so long as his or her GPA is very high? Like there is a chance to restart all over in Uni, because what he learnt is different in poly. or is it that the course have to be somewhat similar to the one studied in poly? Like if accounting then only can choose business related .. ? because if it only depends on GPA and Os result then its an advantage..

and a JC lecturer told me that many students went overseas to study popular UNIs there however when returned to SG, due to different programmes and techniques etc (learnt overseas), the uni cert wasnt recognized. This is my concern. And i was also told only a couple of unis in aus is really recognized by SG. :s22: driving me crazy

1. It depends on which local uni course you are looking at. Some uni courses will outright not allow you no matter how high your GPA is. One example is engineering. Engineering requires math and physics background. Without this, no matter how high your gpa, you will never gain entry if your poly diploma is totally unrelated. Things like humanities(psych is under this), does not require ANY pre-requisite knowledge whatsoever.

I believe business/accountancy also does not require any pre-requisite at all other than O-level subjects.

2. This is a possibility with degree that require accredition. One example is again, engineering. Local uni engineering degrees is a strict 4 year program that is largely shaped and influenced by the PEB(Professional Engineers Board). Hence, local uni engineering degrees are accredited and recognised by the PEB themselves.

However, in the UK, engineering degrees are short, and are mostly only 3 years long and a lot of the content/skills that PEB deems necessary to be a professional engineer is missing. Hence, the PEB does not accredit nor recognise these degrees. But at the same time, students who come back to SG with a UK engin degree can take a 1 year masters and get accredited. Or, they can take their masters in the UK and get accredited by PEB. PEB deems that the 4 year local uni engineering degrees are equivalent to a UK 3 year degree + 1 year masters.

Most other general degrees do not require any sort of acredition. Medicine degrees need to be recognised by SMB, Law degrees need to be recognised by MinLaw etc. So it depends what your degree is in. If its just a general psych degree then no such body to give recognition.

If you are worried about which australian uni is employable, maybe you should just stick to the top few. ANU, Umelb, Usyd, UQ.
 

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wow good to hear that patryn33 is still dishing out advice.
I remember seeking feedback on various courses years ago on which uni to choose.

Fast fwd to now and i'm already 2 years into my 1st job.
 
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