Pascal to replace Maxwell GPU architecture in 2016 with 10x performance boost

[LesterQ]

Take a chill pill

 

[and_who]

He ain't gonna leave, he is enjoying his rants on the forum too much. Add that to the fact that he is very free and spends a lot of time on this forum

Anyway, want act Lao Jiao, quote so many forumer names, but do you notice the difference?

Old time forumers don't rant and whine as much as him. They work hard, earn their money, pay whatever price is prevailing and enjoy their purchases.

 

[kawaii_boy]

Ok, next year than upgrade my GPU.

 

[royfrosty]

Gattberserk. Is not just about rantling. Theres a difference in overseas forums and our local hwz.

If you have your point, and we dont get it. Dont try to enforce or put your point across to us. Cause it will never be easy to "convince" us about what you think. And when that happens, i dont think its right for you to keep on talking about it when we dont buy your idealogies and other stuffs.

Overseas forums on the other hand are much polite. True, theres no way hiding that fact. But they put out something very polite. Which is if you have your point, speak up and thats it stop. Not continue. If theres a disagreement it will be 1 or 2 replies and stop thats it.

Healthy debates are fun. It was never meant to be a personal attack. Here in the forums we do not personal attack anyone (I hope). I have a few personal and much more sensitive attacks before in this forums. I either chose to disbelieve/ignores or just simply respect the ones who uses personal attack against me. Like the one who commented something about "everyone in this forums buying online stuffs should apply for a Frank card". If one understands the situation of SG stringent loan/credit rules, one wont bring up this case that i should have credit cards etc.

Dont take us seriously. Just let it go.

If you are leaving this forum for good then i bid you farewell and enjoy your own spare time on other forums. Be happy.

 

[halnala]

10x performance boost is a very general and vague statement sia..

Btw, this 3D memory and incoming AMD 300 series HBM got any differences or similarities?

 

[Humster]

hopefully console can improve alot this coming years cause certain game in my opinion best played in console...

No way bro. Xbox1 and PS4 is only like 3 years old. Gonna take at least another 5years before they even go to PS5, etc.

 

[superzheny]

Sure its 10x performace increase and not 9.5x?

 

[mib500]

No way bro. Xbox1 and PS4 is only like 3 years old. Gonna take at least another 5years before they even go to PS5, etc.

yeah i think so... hope for miracles....

 

[idmanotic]

10x performance boost is a very general and vague statement sia..

Btw, this 3D memory and incoming AMD 300 series HBM got any differences or similarities?

You can check out the slides in the presentation. Its not talking about gaming performance in case you are wondering.

 

[Humster]

yeah i think so... hope for miracles....

Well if I am AMD, I'll try and get M$ and Sony "update" their consoles with newer processor.

Dx12 support + backward compatiblity with their current consoles.

Call it XboxONE.5 and PS4.1

 

[idmanotic]

Well if I am AMD, I'll try and get M$ and Sony "update" their consoles with newer processor.

Dx12 support + backward compatiblity with their current consoles.

Call it XboxONE.5 and PS4.1

Not possible......If you do that what will happen to old consoles?

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

Anyway just to OT

Initially being exposed to this local hardware tech forum back in 2003, together with VR zone, I joined the latter for a few years since 2004, learning all my hardware stuff and info scratch through there. However VRZ didnt feel especially active as posting normally take longer time and in the end I jump ship and came over to HWZ after 4 years as I see how warm the community over here used to be. This was the distinct cozy place that is stark difference toward EDMW.

Over time I made many great friend back den like cty lemon pa97 and many others where we often engage in good discussion, with constant bbq organisation to allow us to mingle together. However over the years I have seen that very warmness is starting to erode away. Having to exposed to many other tech forward online, HWC generally is starting to gear toward linus techtip forum where personal bashing and online fanboyism is common. I went over to overclocker.net and realised how friendly the community over there is, and alot of good healthy debate going on without resorting to bashing one another on personal level. There were heated comment but labelling on others were extremely rare. (at least from what I have seen so far)


Somehow those, I find myself in a hostility in HWC that is far worst than any other online forum I registered myself to, and probably worst than in EDMW (at least in EDMW I haven got humiliated so far). There were people who even dig out my post from the past and start criticizing, doing smiliar thing to what EDMW people are doing on some of the infamous people.

Generally I have learn alot though this forum together with VRZ, unfortunately though I probably find myself not quite belonging here as I am someone who is extremely specfic for value for money. As I understand back to the days since the FX 5900s that the flagship were never meant to be value for money, the inflation that shot up within the past 3 years has made me felt a worrying trend that decent PC upgrading (not budget kind) is become more of a luxury than a good value alternative, not just the company but the entire PC building society as well (more and more ppl flaunting having a godly PC or making one that is like the Large Pixel collider.etc). Since my ideal clash with most of the online luxury people here, I am being singled out and even has a photo of my online name posted telling me to "study hard" where it has absolute no link to any of the forementioned technology discussion. This does make me wonder if HWC is any different from EDMW at times.


Just to quote a old member that stood in my defense yesterday and said something that I felt strongly to (and I am really thankful for it).





And so, probably its time to take my leave from my forum for everyone good, and learn more about HW tech in some other community where it is more suited for me. PC building is always and will be my passion, and I will not give up just becz price has been gearing up recently (somehow 5K PC nowaday isnt considered super high end alr). I will be posting less post from now on, and probably just made one last thread before I take my leave for good. Thanks everyone for the guidance for the past.


Sorry for the long post.

Eh... Curious ah since u seems to know so many old birds and history in here... What is your original account ah? This account created in 2008 nia... So u r whose clone?

P.s.
TL;DR

 

[Ark Law]

Not possible......If you do that what will happen to old consoles?

Don't worry, both marketing departments will find a way to sell it to console users

 

[shadow84]

Did i just saw a bibliography? Looks boring...

 

[Piezoq]

This shows a 2x gain in efficiency between pascal and maxwell. So raw computing power is about 2x for the same power draw. Not bad at all.

 

[shadow84]

This shows a 2x gain in efficiency between pascal and maxwell. So raw computing power is about 2x for the same power draw. Not bad at all.

Such graphs dun really prove anything...Can ask primary sch kid to plot for you and the press will still believe... Its just a marketing tool to stimulate anticipations.

 

[Piezoq]

Such graphs dun really prove anything...Can ask primary sch kid to plot for you and the press will still believe... Its just a marketing tool to stimulate anticipations.

The technical graphs are mostly accurate when describing silicone. I've not observed Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, Samsung or any other big player pushing obvious deception in their presentations. Not in recent memory anyway. Mostly, they hit the levels specified. They're too big to sell go-yo.

For this particular graphic, the numbers are only valid for the top-end chip, not the entire family.

Don't believe me? Hunt around for Maxwell and Kepler numbers. They agree with the chart.

 

[Gattberserk]

This shows a 2x gain in efficiency between pascal and maxwell. So raw computing power is about 2x for the same power draw. Not bad at all.

NV claim that Maxwell efficiency is twice of that of Kepler, while the GM204 shows that well against GK104, the GM200s only had 40-50% better efficiency (performance per watt) as compared to GK200s, so this kinda graph just take as a pinch of salt, they usually just extrapolate the best case senario.


Not to mentioned for Pascal they might also factor in the jump in node shrink. Let not forget we are skipping directly to 16nm instead of 20nm for Pascal. Hence I wont be too surprised for that advantage over Maxwell.

 

[iZoneSG]

When the pascal card come out first then talk later. now talk also no use, many things can subject to change.

 

[watzup_ken]

10x performance improvement in anything sounds like a very big hat to wear. Even 2x performance improvement is a big hat to be honest. These news need to be taken with a big pinch of salt.